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Samsung denies cheating on benchmark tests

0. phoneArena 03 Oct 2013, 13:06 posted on

The evidence seems pretty hard to argue, but Samsung wants to try anyway. Multiple sources have found that Samsung (as well as most other Android manufacturers) artificially boost CPU frequencies when the system detects a benchmarking test running. Samsung is denying that its devices are trying to cheat the tests, and is actually putting the blame on the tests themselves...

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posted on 03 Oct 2013, 16:13 2

51. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Is Turbo boost on a desktop chip cheating? NO. Samsung should list though in the official specs what it actually goes up to.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 17:17 2

56. Ninetysix (Posts: 2599; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


is Turbo boost only active on certain applications controlled by the manufacturer or is it always on/on demand? There is a difference.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 17:30 1

59. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


It activates automatically just like Samsungs does when the CPU is nearing 100% use. The only smartphone apps that use 100% are benchmarks as far as I know. It does not target applications, if it did then go make a brand new benchmark and see if it targets it without a system update.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 17:39 2

63. Ninetysix (Posts: 2599; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


It's not the same in the case. Samsung only runs their "turbo boost" in their whitelist apps. Rename the benchmark app listed in those whitelist and it runs in normal mode.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 18:02

69. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


He is a troll or a shill one of the two. Turbo boost is very different. It will only boost if the program need the extra amount of power. All program can have access to turbo boost. Now the Samsung boost is only for the white list app.

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 02:19

92. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3440; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


So why doesnt it boost when the benchmark app is running under a different name? Same situation, other name and it should boost then too. No need to make a brand new benchmark.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:16 4

8. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Well, benchmarks does satisfy most of the droid lovers out there. Its only natural for these OEMs to target that.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:27 12

9. amasog (Posts: 421; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


of course Sammy will deny it.

what to expect from them? lol!!

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:29 4

10. jove39 (Posts: 1953; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


double fault

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:34

11. Danishs (Posts: 147; Member since: 23 May 2013)


BS. The CPU raises it's maximum frequency while running the tests

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:38

12. nestea (unregistered)


emmm silly fandroid, yes it goes for maximum frequency but they increase lowest frequency also. Try to benchmark your android with 200-1500mhz and then with 1200-1500mhz….

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 19:15

77. tedkord (Posts: 13501; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, it doesn't. It does ramp it up to it's max advertised speed for the duration of the bench, instead of letting the built in governor control it.

It's like using performance governor on a custom ROM - it does the same thing, keeps the CPU at max speed always (except when asleep)

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 21:54

82. Danishs (Posts: 147; Member since: 23 May 2013)


No the max CPU frequency gets raised according to anandtech

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 13:51

99. tedkord (Posts: 13501; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, that's not what Anand stated. They clearly said that max supported CPU speed is never exceeded. They also stated that the effect is negligible, since these benchmarks should drive the frequencies to max.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:39 11

13. darkkjedii (Posts: 23936; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Barrysung Bonds. S-Rod. Roger Sammens. Samsung Censeco.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 17:23 2

57. rockblock123 (Posts: 20; Member since: 07 Sep 2013)


darkdumasspple

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 18:15

72. darkkjedii (Posts: 23936; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Good one +1.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 19:16 3

78. tedkord (Posts: 13501; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Hey, DJ. Nice wedding photo. Congrats.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 19:30 1

79. darkkjedii (Posts: 23936; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Thanx Ted, appreciate the kind words bro. +1

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:39 5

14. verbalize (Posts: 138; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Samsung are a bunch of losers.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:45 8

17. ocilfa (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)


Are you 5?

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 13:53 6

21. verbalize (Posts: 138; Member since: 03 May 2013)


No I'm 2... Any person with common spence knows Samsung's practices are low and desperate. How do you think they got where they are? Lie, lie, lie

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 02:26

93. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3440; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Welcome to the world of big cooperations. They all lie, that's how you make the big bucks. Some get caught, others don't.

What is common spence?

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 14:00 4

23. Gigabinzle (Posts: 37; Member since: 30 Aug 2013)


are you the government ?

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 14:16 4

28. verbalize (Posts: 138; Member since: 03 May 2013)


No just a person who educates themselves with company's who copies every idea from someone else. I see why you are a Samsung fan.. LOL

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 16:53

53. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


*himself *companies

You should spend half of said education in grammar.

posted on 03 Oct 2013, 19:55 1

81. darkkjedii (Posts: 23936; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Why would you call them "a bunch of losers"? They're no different that any other company, build for low sell for high. The rep their product, and they should. It's fun to poke fun at them, just like it is to do it to apple, but in reality it's just big business.

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 02:31 1

94. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3440; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


So very true.

And everytime we poke at them, naming them, their brand name is mentioned ;)

Sometimes I wonder if Apple and Samsung aren't working together in this. It's always Apple/Samsung and they do work together in some areas. You don't hear people talking sh#t about the HTC one max getting a fingerprint sensor and 'copying' Apple.

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 08:34 1

97. darkkjedii (Posts: 23936; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You noticed that too huh? Just like the Pepsi/coke wars, the wars bring focus to just those two, and makes the rest irrelevant. I've said before, these two are not the enemies we all think they are. +1

posted on 04 Oct 2013, 12:58

98. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3440; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


I agree, like that big trial that was going on, where Samsung had to pay hunderds of millions to Apple. Never heard anything if they paid it or not. And it's usually Apple and Samsung going to court. Guess those two have the last laugh.

Btw, did you get married or something (your avatar changed)? If so, congrats on your marriage.

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