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Samsung could debut its anti-theft feature for smartphones as soon as next month

0. phoneArena 15 Jun 2013, 11:18 posted on

On Friday night, we told you how Representatives from smartphone manufacturers like Apple and Samsung met with law enforcement officials from New York and San Francisco to talk about ways to reduce the epidemic that has affected many big cities, namely the increasing number of robberies involving smartphones...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 11:25 13

1. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6674; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


It's good too see companies are working on anti theft programs.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:30

14. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


These are the latest FBI reports about crime, and i don't agree with the picture!

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:54 7

24. tech2 (Posts: 2327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Am I missing something you are trying to say ?

Those stats are for 2011 and that too only for USA. What on earth that has anything to do with this article ?!?!

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 15:13 7

25. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


Stop being ignorant. That list only proves what I said, Blacks are more likely to commit robbery than people of other races. IT'S A FACT BASED ON POPULATION AND THE INFORMATION YOU LISTED. Black people (12% of the total US population) are committing 45% of the charged Robbery crimes in America.

Population in the US / Robbery committed by that Race.

Black population 40 million / 45,000 robberies = 1 in 888
White population 225 million / 35,000 robberies = 1 in 6428
Asian population 15 million / 547 robberies = 1 in 25594

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 15:22 3

26. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's the dumbest statement ever again. Check 50 sources get 50 different results. Lets not get into history here. Keep it about tech.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 15:29 3

27. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


How is it a dumb statement? It's a fact based on FBI.gov statistics and the US population.

I'm willing to talk tech but Topcat was the one who pulled the race card out and opened this can of worms.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 15:52 5

28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"How is it a dumb statement? It's a fact based on FBI.gov statistics and the US population."

darkkjedii just can't stand and don't want to hear what this statistics says and he also can't find any reasonable argument to say something contrary that's why he says such desperate things like a "That's the dumbest statement ever again.".

But I agree with darkkjedii that PhoneArena is tech site and we should talk here about the tech! :)

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 16:22 1

29. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I agree with you but also I am not desperate this is a Tech site, let's keep it about tech and I grew up in these neighborhoods and they are not that way

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 21:47

47. Ralston1983 (Posts: 65; Member since: 03 Feb 2011)


I would like for them to do a controlled experiment to see if these crimes are color or situation driven. IE take three people (one White one Black and one Asian) and put them each in the same situation. Make them homeless and see who steals to survive. Give them all each excess means and see who steals again. I would bet everything I own that each situation would end the same way.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:49

42. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)


This is slightly off-topic also and I apologize in advance but, you should consider taking your profile picture "selfy" with anything other than your iPhone; the lighting and quality is Abysmal, I can't see your "Dark & Lovelyness" (BARF) .....

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 01:38

48. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


No comment

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 17:35 3

31. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Have you considered other factors though?

What ratio of black people live in inner citiies? Inner cities have higher crime rates. Couldn't that be a plausible explanation?

Is racism by cops have to do with these stastics?

What about the fact the black people were once slaves and may therefore have less money and commit robbery at a higher rate?

Don't just take a half assed approach to this. Do a complete job or don't mention this s**t at all.

Plus this is a tech website stay on topic.

PS Im white.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 18:26 2

33. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Well said bio +1

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:41

39. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


thanks dark:)

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:12 4

34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Have you considered other factors though?"

Don't you think that those who made this statistics already has considered about such factors?

"What ratio of black people live in inner citiies? Inner cities have higher crime rates. Couldn't that be a plausible explanation?"

About what cities you are talking about, this is statistics of crimes in whole United States.

"Is racism by cops have to do with these stastics?"

Do you really think that there is so many racist in police that they even can significantly change statistic results?
Do you realize that in police also works different nationality and skin colour people?

"What about the fact the black people were once slaves and may therefore have less money and commit robbery at a higher rate?"

You are drunk or what? Do you realize that today is 2013 and slavery in the United States ended in ~1865.

"Don't just take a half assed approach to this. Do a complete job or don't mention this s**t at all."

I think that you should use your advice too before writing this nonsense comment!

"Plus this is a tech website stay on topic."

What about you?

P.S.
biophone, I'm not a racist, but your comment is total nonsense!

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:19

35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


As I have said before, all races commit crimes and I'm sure that this photo is just a coincidence.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:36 1

38. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Yea all races commit crimes but to suggest that one race is more inherently likely to commit crimes is irresponsible, racist, asinine, and wrong.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:35 2

37. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


"Don't you think that those who made this statistics already has considered about such factors?"

Clearly they haven't. They are only looking at numbers and that is far too minimal.

"About what cities you are talking about, this is statistics of crimes in whole United States."

Almost every city has higher crime rates and african americans are more densely populated there. Hence higher crime rates can be attributed to them because of that.

"Do you really think that there is so many racist in police that they even can significantly change statistic results?
Do you realize that in police also works different nationality and skin colour people?"

Yea they definitely could have altered the data. Police have a ton of discretion so that effects crime statistics drastically.

"You are drunk or what? Do you realize that today is 2013 and slavery in the United States ended in ~1865."

It wasn't until around the 1950's when segregation ended first of all. When people are in poverty it is a cycle and their children tend to stay in poverty. If a group of people have been discriminated against and kept in poverty it's not surprising for them to commit crimes at higher rates.

"I think that you should use your advice too before writing this nonsense comment!"

I'm taking a whole picture look at crime support by criminologists. Categorizing a group of people as criminals based on numbers alone is irresponsible, racist, and wrong.

I merely touched the surface there is so many other reasons why this may be.

Prosecutors have a great deal of discretion in the USA criminal justice system. The have the ability to decide if a case goes to trail. Racist prosecutors are more likely to go after african americans.

If you did research into this instead of spewing nonsense and bigotry you could understand this fuller. I'll help you out:

Strain theory:
"Strain theory, which is largely derived from the work of Robert K. Merton in the 1930s and 1940s, argues that social structures within society which lead to inequality and deprivation in segments of its population indirectly encourage those segments to commit crime."

Conflict theory:
"The form of conflict theory which emphasizes the role of economics, being heavily influenced by the work of Karl Marx and sometimes referred to as Marxist criminology, views crime as a natural response to the inequality arising from the competition inherent in capitalist society."

There are so many other reasons to explain these numbers but you're not interested in that are you? You just want to put a label on people because it's easier.

Any educated person on this subject would be able to have a much more sophisticated conversation about this. This isn't the place for this and I don't even know why it was bothered to be brought up.

"What about you?"

I'm merely responding to you guys and helping to educate you guys on something you're talking about but clearly know very little.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:59

44. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-rushing/the-reasons-why-so-many-b_b_883310.html

good article

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 11:35

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5917; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I wonder how a kill switch would work for Android? Link to the user's Play account? And then what happens when the rightful owner wants to sell their phone? How does the 'registration' get transferred?

A kill switch is a great idea, it just needs some flexibility.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:36

9. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 294; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I'm thinking that initial kill switch plans will be hardware built into the phone if the manufacturers are going to be supporting the kill switch idea. For this kill switch to be linked to our play accounts, I think that will require Google to play a major role in the process and I haven't heard anything about Google getting involved.

A kill switch that is hardware based will be the ultimate anti-theft. Anything that's software base can simply be overridden when rooted or jail broken.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:39

10. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 294; Member since: 26 May 2011)


What I'd hate to see as a root user in the kill switch built into secured boot loaders.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 07:38

49. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


But...
They ( thief ) can use the phone as a spare part..
hmm...

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 11:45 2

3. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Why they use a black man in the picture!!! Don't get me started... A pair of handcuffs would have been suffice.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 11:58 3

4. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


Blacks are eight times more likely than people of other races to commit robbery.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:07 1

5. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


How about arabs ? (No Offense, Just asking..Guy above me is the one who started it all)

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:12 4

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's the dumbest statement ever.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:17 8

7. SleepingOz (unregistered)


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080722141429AAUsysI
http://warband.wordpress.com/the-colour-of-crime/

Unfortunately, these are the real statistics.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:35 1

8. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


As I said that's the dumbest statement ever.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 12:41 1

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


After clicking that link, all I can do us laugh at the clumsiness and smear tactics laced into it. I'm gonna leave this one alone, and attempt to keep it about tech.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:16

20. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Try clicking on a true "FBI" crime link that i put at the top darkjedii... I'm really tired of the BS that blacks are being portrait as. "Enough Said".

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:47

23. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Exactly man, lets let them run with it though. I know the real deal, cuz I'm from the area and its not like that...at all

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:33

15. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


You did not do a good enough research, and your facts are wrong... You can go back to SLEEP now!

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 16:42 2

30. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Dude, don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about which race commit more crimes etc.. and I do understand your butthurt. But my facts aren't wrong, even the link you posted says that black are more likely to commit crimes. But black or not, if you're a good person, you don't have to feel so concerned about it.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:33

36. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Arrests, by Race, 2011
In 2011, 69.2 percent of all individuals arrested were white, 28.4 percent were black, and 2.4 percent were of other races.
Of all juveniles (individuals under the age of 18) arrested in 2011 in the nation, 65.7 percent were white, 32.0 percent were black, and 2.3 percent were of other races.
Nearly 70 percent (69.7) of all adults (18 years of age and over) arrested in 2011 were white, 27.9 percent were black, and 2.3 percent were of other races.
White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race, accounting for 59.4 percent of those arrests.
The percentages of white adults and black adults arrested for murder were similar, with 48.2 percent being white, and 49.4 percent being black.
Juveniles who were black accounted for 51.4 percent of juvenile arrests for violent crimes.
Juveniles who were white accounted for 62.4 percent of juvenile arrests for property crimes.
Of the juveniles arrested for driving under the influence, 91.6 percent were white.
Juveniles who were white accounted for 72.9 percent of the persons under 18 who were arrested for arson in 2011.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:45

41. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Well Topcat while I agree with the overall message of your argument your reasoning is off.

I think what these guys were talking about is per capita blacks commit more crimes.

However they failed to reason using criminological theories as to why that might be.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:55

43. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Man, I don't want to argue with you on who commit more robbery, etc.., because I don't want to be associated with racism or anything but your answer in post 25.
Cheers mate!

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:36

16. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


This is NOT true, you bad daddys' girl. hehe stop going to those assemblies that promote lies and hate.

@comment #4

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:11

19. darkkjedii (Posts: 12348; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Well said topcat

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:30

22. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)


That's not a problem here in Kansas but, then again, vanilla is the only flavour for miles.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:14 1

12. cnpthe3rd (Posts: 51; Member since: 01 Feb 2009)


the real question, Why do you see a dark skin person in handcuffs and assume he is black??? lots of races have dark skin but even better question what the F*** does that have at all to do with phones or technology

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:21 1

13. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Why they use a black man in the picture!!!"

Why not?

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 19:42

40. biophone (Posts: 1894; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


It's racist???

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 20:24 1

45. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


How is that racist?

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 13:44

17. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I agree that in the world still exist such problem like a racism, but in our days some people tend to cry about racism even if in certain situation there is no racism at all also some people tend to manipulate by crying about racism, it is just pathetic!
Also I can bet if Alan F. would placed white man's or asian man's photo it would be ok, but since it is black-skinned person in the photo, it suddenly becomes a "racism"...

P.S.
I'm not a racist I just see such situation in our days.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:06

18. Topcat488 (Posts: 1170; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


You're the only person who brought up the "R" word, so STFO. I simply stated that the "FACTS" do not agree with the picture!!! According to the FBI reports "whites" committed the most crimes... But just a pair of plain ole handcuffs would have been enough... Or make it real!

@comment #'s 13 & 17

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 14:18

21. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


All races commit crimes and I'm sure that this photo is just a coincidence. So please, don't create a double standards and don't say that black-skinned person can't be used in this photo because in this photo can be used any race person. You are the person who started all this drama.

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 18:23

32. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6674; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Exactly

posted on 15 Jun 2013, 21:06

46. Igneel (unregistered)


Chill guys. Chill... Enough with the racism! ...... But I'm glad I don't see any charges on dragons :P

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 08:11

50. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2783; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


BTW, a very good idea by manufacturers.

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