Samsung built A7 processor rocks the new Apple iPhone 5s
0. phoneArena 21 Sep 2013, 04:12 posted on
Samsung has provided many of the parts for the Apple iPhone and Apple iPad over the years; but this year, there were some who believed that Apple had reached an agreement with TSMC to replace Samsung as the provider of the A7 processor that drives the Apple iPhone 5s. But apparently that deal won't take affect until 2014...
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30. illusionmist (Posts: 126; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
And haters think they're the only ones that know everything.
50. emadshiny (Posts: 1142; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
You forgot that even their design language is borrowed from Sony.
Apple is nothing by itself...
92. bucky (Posts: 1575; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Where do you think Samsung would be without google?
They write terrible software. That's apples strength. Samsungs is hardware.
Samsung would be nothing without apple or google as well. They copied designs from apple (as evident by their pre iPhone days) and the my have fully capitalized on with android (good for them btw)
100. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8923; Member since: 14 May 2012)
It's the other way around. You should be asking where would Google be without Samsung. Samsung is credited for the success of Android since their first flagship, the Galaxy S.
117. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
bro,its HTC thats first took the plunge with google,they made the first android phone and took the most risk but get zero credit from anyone that only remember today news
what samsung did differently is pay big marketing fee to convert human into dumdroid
122. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4109; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
It's more of a mutual benefit relationship. Without Android, Samsung wouldn't have even a third of the market share they have today; and without Samsung, it would've taken Android much longer to gain market share. They both would have a hard time without each other, stop trying to make it sound like Samsung is the God of the mobile realm and that they can do anything they want.
124. clevername (Posts: 1431; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
I think you forget Motorola. Moto is credited with making android a success with the motodroid. The galaxy s 3 was the first android device to really beat out iPhone single handedly, but because of the popularity of the Droid line, android started to sell more than apple as a whole. Without a versatile OS like android Samsung would've stuck with feature phones and windows, which wasn't winning any battles for them or HTC at the time. Without android Samsung would not be where it is. But without Samsung, Moto and HTC would've thrived and taken android where Samsung has taken it.
118. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
dumdroid fans look at competitors OEM list without looking at their own dumdroid device OEM list
7. darkkjedii (Posts: 12672; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Thanx Samsung, cuz this puppy has horse power. I wish these two got along better, but let's be real. They're not as into it as we think they are.
94. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Exactly, it's about money for them, but people on here it's about bragging rights and purchase justification.
It would be great if the two tech giants could get along though, their battles negatively affect a lot of tech decisions.
104. darkkjedii (Posts: 12672; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
True, well said, and 100% agreed. +1
95. joey_sfb (Posts: 3261; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Let start with PA reader being nice to each other,..
i mean its just a phone and a device that we change frequently, i got my note 2 last dec now i waiting to trade up to note 3 next year note 4.
darkkjedii i sure you will trade up to iphone 6 next year.
so give it a rest and enjoy your device be it nokia, note 2 or iphone.
97. Shinydesert (Posts: 61; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
How do you like your beautiful new toy? Is battery life good? Just got an iPhone 5 (close-out) a week ago, and I am pretty pleased with it, I like it.
Waiting for your nice review.
105. darkkjedii (Posts: 12672; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
To be honest I've had minimal time to dig in. I'm getting married at 5pm pct today so I won't get much time to play with it till like Monday. So far though, very very fast, silky smooth? And lotsa features. Can't say for sure about battery life yet, But when I bought it it was 87% charged at 8:20 am, and made it till 12:55 this morning before it pooped out. Camped out at AT&T with my girl to be second in line.
110. tedkord (Posts: 5292; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Hey, congrats in the nuptials. Get of this silly website and concentrate on what's important.
112. darkkjedii (Posts: 12672; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yeah Ted, I've been lying here just trying to relax. 3.5 hrs to go bro. Haven't seen her since yesterday afternoon. Thanx man. +1
113. Shinydesert (Posts: 61; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Congratulations my friend!!!! I wish you guys the best.
Thanks for replying.
127. anglosaxonengland (Posts: 17; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)
Not to be rude but are you getting married to a smartphone?
If I was getting married, I wouldn't even think twice and smartphone, wouldn't even mention it never the less that battery life. I'd rather be thinking about my life than using my phone and checking, logging and remembering what percentage battery it has.
9. jacko1977 (Posts: 400; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
apple sues samsung coz they want the parts for nothing
10. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
It's amazing how many iFans think Samsung is Android these days. Such a generalised statement. It's like saying that Apple's lazy and greedy and, oh wait...never mind.
83. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Touchwiz is used by far more people than stock android or any other fork of Android. To most people using a smartphone Touchwiz is Android.
116. tedkord (Posts: 5292; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And to most people any tissue is a Kleenex. But that doesn't make it so.
11. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Now let's just imagine how many iPhone suicide fanboys will have arround if Samsung just raise his middle finger and say: "no more parts from us coz u play nasty, manipulate and Pupetmaster, users, suplyers and courtrooms".....
13. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
And yes true interesting fact: “Last quarter, Samsung Electronics made more money selling handsets than Apple for the first time" Samsung’s operating profit for handsets was an estimated $5.2 billion in the second quarter of 2013. Apple, meanwhile, had an estimated operating profit of $4.6 billion. Add to this all the money Samy is making from selling chips to Apple and you know where to place your money next time when you have to invest in some stock shares.....
34. Ninetysix (Posts: 1680; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Your search engine broken bro?
"An earlier version of this said Samsung made more profit last quarter, but it was comparing Samsung's operating profit to Apple's. We apologize for the error."
14. BigBoss10 (Posts: 233; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
where there's money they will remain good and bitter
15. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
fandroid really fandroid,how bout looking at galaxy s4 for example:
accelerometer sensor - Stmicroelectronics
light sensor - capella
Orientation sensor - Stmicroelectronics
proximity - capella
Gyrometer - Stmicroelectronics
sound sensor - Infineon
magnetic sensor - Asahi
pressure sensor - STM
CPU - Qualcomn snapdragon architecture
GPU - Krait (ARM architecture)
OS - Google Android
Samsung never design anything,they buy everything,piece together the hardware call SoC,brand it to fandroid as "exynos"
Samsung only in house design is their bloatware
20. taikucing (unregistered)
LMAO. It proves that iFans can't use Google
18. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Retard iPhoney, really iPhoney first the article it was not about Apple building the chips inside SAMSUNG's phone and second what about the Samsung own Octacore in the S4 (the Qualcom is only in the LTE related markets FYI), gorgeous 4th genetation super AMOLED diplay made by SAMSUNG, DDR3 RAM made by SAMSUNG, nandflash made by SAMSUNG so before you post something get informed you ignorant pr1ck so please zipp it and go talk crap when Apple will reall build even 1 of their own components that goes into their iPhone....
84. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
The Exynos that the A7 shreds in every way imaginable. Yeah that's Samsung proprietary property.
88. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
It's just typical ifans out in full force. The denial is very strong in thia article. All these links have nothing to do with Samsung manufacturing the A7. Ifans just can't stand that Apple doesn't do it themselves. Samsung making the A7 chip is like giving guns to apple cause it can afford to make it's own for the mobile war lmao!
132. bucky (Posts: 1575; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
luls. I dont think you read the article or the comments-just came here to troll (or look stupid)
Nobody has any issues with the chip being made by samsung (atleast not in these comments). The point being brought up was everyone borrows from everyone. Also, read through the comments and see most people arent trying to flame and troll.......just a rare few like u.
Back to the drawing board for you.
21. taikucing (unregistered)
You mean like this?
Engine: Mercedes Benz AMG V12
Transmission: company A
Exhaust: company B
Carbon Fibers: imported from Japan
Battery: company C
Rims: company D
Interior & seats: company E
ECU: Magneti Marelli
46. Sauce (unregistered)
+1. These incompetent baboons will never understand how companies do things.
128. anglosaxonengland (Posts: 17; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)
I like how tech guys try to use hyper car as an example but don't know jack about how even a simple car works
47. SonyPS4 (Posts: 261; Member since: 21 May 2013)
The difference is Apple sue other for basic design and use fancy term for other company technology and claim it as their own tech.
49. Kevinphantom (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Jun 2013)
dumb % 95 of Samsung gs4 devices using exynos here
89. oOps.. (Posts: 34; Member since: 26 Jul 2013)
don't forget.. iPhone made in China, stop complaining!
edit: I mean iPhone
22. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Never had anything against samsung designed processors. Apple implements it better than Samsung. All the software need to catch up to the super fast processors or would need better optimizations on android's part. KLP 5.0 maybe
23. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
To "robinlim85" FYI half of the components going into Samsung Galaxy S4 are designed, developed and build by SAMSUNG:
CPU: SAMSUNG Exynos 5410 and Snapdragon
Flash, eMMC nand: SAMSUNG
BASEBAND Procesor: SAMSUNG
RF Transfeceiver: SAMSUNG
Power Management IC: SAMSUNG
Nuf said so next time you open your iPhone piehole get informed and read about the BOM
29. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
you mean buying architecture/design from other company mean self design?
you mean SDRAM design was originated from samsung,yea right fanboy
do you know what means by Nand architecture?samsung invented Nand architecture? fanboy
Do u know Exynos is just a SoC,oh do u know what is SoC in the first place,you mean the ARM core in Exynos SoC is invented by samsung?
maybe u not very familiar with google search after all,give u an idea,type google,type Exynos component,use google translate if u don't know english
yeah maybe in korea and your country you can view it as own design,in other part of world,we view samsung as just a construction company,other people do the brain stuff,samsung lift the bricks and stick it together
31. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Is that the best you could come up with: use google and use the translator??? Looks to me that Siri has left you brain dead, what do you mean by "WE", do not place a whole bunch of people in the same category as you, first you attack then you only remember the components you want in the S4 then now you making an arse of yourself by telling that WE SEE SAMSUNG AS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, get a life ignorant bum
32. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
And yes by the way if you type "google" into google search will not come up nothing about SAMSUNG u retard pr1ck, you are the one still have to learn about how google search works.... same with the translator, get out under that iRock
33. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Last and not least I never said "INVENTED"!!! It is ovious that you like to put your own spin and twist on things but that is ok from a brain dead midget...
35. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
someone sounds like eaten some sour grape here
don cry bro,just practice your copy and paste as usual
38. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
yep you just carry on with this, you throw the stone then hide the hand... do not forget the pass by the near chemist to pick up the monthly supply of iSuppository and your new glasses coz i do not see any copy/paste here and yeas learn ENGLISH is "sour grapes" coz you used the plural "some" before in the sentence soo where are you from ??? aaa scratch that I do not wanna get into a geography argument with ya .....
44. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
ran out of argument?english teacher now?plural?
sounds real sour there,pity you
54. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
ROFL run out of arguments??? no really, me unlike you I gave you the arguments you just left the arguments out of Samsung's Bill Of Materials, but you are only dedicating to give head to your iPhone and sit doggy to Apple and yeah use Siri to teach you engrish then pitty yourself...
56. robinlim85 (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2013)
Siri can't teach me "engrish"
is that your language?copy from english class?
60. Spikes9s (Posts: 34; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
It is called sarcasm but this is way ahead of your intelectual abilities is like Yoda talking to Jaba the Hut
48. taikucing (unregistered)
Today many CPU/GPU architectures are licensed. AMD, Qualcomm, Apple, Samsung, Mediatek, they buy licenses from other companies like Intel & ARM. So what's your point?
However some companies don't have fab facilities to produce their own chips because it's very difficult & cost billion dollars to build a fab. Building a fab & shrinking transistor size is much more difficult than designing CPU architectures because it needs research in optics, materials & electronic engineering. But desiging a CPU architecture, you can do it in a software or simulator.
That's why AMD gave up its fab and order TSMC & Global Foundry to make their CPU/GPU. Japanese & many other companies gave up their chip fabrication business because it's too hard to shrink transistor size & to compete with other companies like Intel. Samsung may be proud because they have their own fab.
As far as I know, only Samsung that has mass produced 20 nm chip. The other, e.g.: Intel fab is still 22 nm process. TSMC is still 28 nm. Global Foundry is still 32 nm. Don't get me wrong, eventhough I'm talking much like this, I'm not a samsung fanboy.
26. Trex95 (Posts: 571; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
Designed by Apple
Socs manufacturing by Samsung only not designed or architectures.
Screen LG IPS LCD plus the LTE band own by LG for both phones IPhone and galaxy's.
36. suavemezie (Posts: 63; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Meanwhile, Apple deceived us again. Remember the M7 that they talked about? There was no M7 according to ifix. Lies, lies lies and hype