Samsung bid for stay on GALAXY Nexus denied, but Google has software update for workaround

5. appleDOESNT.com posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:59 12 2

Patent missiles, that's the best you can do Apple? At least when Steve Jobs vowed to destroy Android, I think he meant it from the heart and from a technology perspective. These embarrassing, frivolous lawsuits are simply outrageous, egregious, preposterous and I cannot imagine even the herd backing these type of technology stunting lawsuits!

85. downphoenix posted on 04 Jul 2012, 11:58 0 0

Jobs authorized the lawsuits that Apple brought on others. In fact nearly all lawsuits in court now were authorized by him several months before. Im sure Jobs wanted to win purely by innovation and capability, but also understand that the way Google operates that it would have been nearly impossible to do it through these means alone, so the patent lawsuits were to at least hamper Google's efforts.

12. CupZ83 posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:20 3 9

obama bans capitalism in this country so therefore it no longer exists sorry :(

20. chadrick0814 posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:44 7 3

Obviously, Wall Street has really suffered with the Dow Jones being at 7800 on the last day of Bush and over 12500 today. But, I think you're on the wrong site. Here's a link to the site you're looking for....

http://www.foxnews.mobi/

30. mas11 posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:59 16 2

This is Phone Arena not some political site. Please talk about phones not politics.

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31. Lucas777 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:03 5 5

oh ya and the private sector is "doing fine" am i right?

and all of those gains were due to wall street itself not obama's ridiculous policies..

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74. remixfa posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:33 0 3

in the 3rd year of Bush's term it was almost exactly the same 12000.. but back then, the dollar was worth more than it is today. It also climbed much higher than that until the housing bubble burst in 2008. A housing bill that was penned by democrats and just signed by bush who wasnt smart enough to read the thing. Who credited themselves with writing that bill? Pelosi, dodd, frank, ect. Oh and what lawyer was using public pressure and protest rallys to force banks to do sub prime lending because they refused to comply with the housing bill at first? Oh yea.. that would be Obama working with ACORN.. the now defunct voter fraud group.

its easy to make broad sweeping judgement with little fact. its much more fun to actually see what happened though.

And when you compare presidents. You compare them for the same term.

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77. remixfa posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:40 0 1

And if you want to get really specific. when was the biggest market crash of them all? When did we lose the most money? When Obama officially won the election. Wall street had a crap fit about that. The very tail end of 2008 into the beginning of 2009 was the biggest drop in recent memory and set the stock market back to its 1997 trading average. If you think elections dont affect the market, think again.

http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/dow-long.html

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86. downphoenix posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:07 0 0

Its funny that the stock did happen the way it did when Obama was elected, because he ended being just as friendly to them, if not more, than Bush was when he was in office. Obama has really dropped the ball on having wall street and the banks be held responsible for their reckless abandon that led us to the repression and housing bubble that we are still under.

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75. remixfa posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:34 1 0

hed probably kick an ass or two!!!

22. gallitoking posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:46 3 14

you mean on VRZ only.. on Sprint is not even a top 5 device...

42. ilia1986 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 01:24 8 1

It doesn't matter. A product is a product. And now it's owners have one less feature thanks to Apple.

58. gallitoking posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:28 2 10

ohh if you dont have the feature is thanks to Samsung for copying...

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73. Zayuh24 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 07:15 4 0

Your comments really piss me off for lack of better words...

One, how can you COPY common sense? If you ask for the weather, you expect the answer to be your local area FIRST without any kind of navigating to find it, right?

Most, if not all of Apple's patents are so much BS that I'm still curious how they were even awarded. The entire patent system is a dud.

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88. groupsacc posted on 04 Jul 2012, 18:00 0 0

I think it's mostly the Patent Office's fault. Whoever granted the patent just doesn't know what s/he is doing and gives them out willy-nilly. Knowing this, Apple will submit multiple applications for essentially the same patent and hope at least one passes through, not to mention usage of some fancy words in the applications to make it look like they've actually come up with something with "flash of genius".

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64. Otterbox (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:36 2 6

Well thank Samsung for infringing on patents.

78. BREvenson posted on 04 Jul 2012, 09:48 4 0

How does Apple keep getting away with this garbage?

These are patents that are loosely defined yet strictly binding...patents for things that ANY smartphone would use as a standard feature. The patent system in this country is messed up, Apple is getting away with way too much...and the fact that this judge is completely on Apple's side does not help matters either.

At least other companies like Motorola, Nokia, etc. usually make settlements or demand reimbursement for others using their patents; Apple has to sue, sue, sue until the phone is off the market. Where's the professionalism in that? That doesn't make you look like a respectable company; that makes you look like a bully. A power-hungry, greedy, self-centered, ignorant bully.

It's gotten to the point where I don't even care if someone infringes on their patents. Apple stole their way to the top, and to see them go nuts with these lawsuits and injunctions for things that they never came up with in the first place (and act like they did) just makes me sick. Sooner or later, Apple's going to get theirs.

87. groupsacc posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:56 0 0

If it's Google's Android workaround, it affects ALL devices.

17. protozeloz posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:26 9 1

Specially when this is so old on android

65. jroc74 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:38 0 0

Exactly....

I also just thought of something.....how come Google Desktop doesnt help them in this case? Didnt Apple get a patent for something that applied to desktop PC's and it was applied to phones?

How come prior art always seems to get overlooked in Apple cases?!?!?

76. remixfa posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:37 1 0

i was wondering the same thing. universal search has been on android since the beginning. When did apple get it? If its such a "big patent" why didnt they pull it out first when android was still just gaining steam and they started suing?

More BS. I think like 90% of what everyone is suing over these days needs to go to FRAND. It's complete BS. And we need to have a class of judges that are specifically trained in tech and patents to handle this stuff.

9. Sackboy117 posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:07 5 0

They can have a notification bar that slides from the bottom :)

21. frydaexiii posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:45 7 0

Honeycomb and ICS Tablets already use that.

24. gallitoking posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:49 2 23

yes but nobody has Android tablets... so

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39. mas11 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:43 6 1

If that's true then why is Apple spending millions trying to get the Galaxy Tab banned?

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40. gallitoking posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:51 1 8

well because if they choose to get money for every device sold.. then Apple will really be screwed. 10.00 dont as far as it just to be

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52. otarusan posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:22 2 1

MIcrosoft owns 35% of Apple, MS is Apples largest share holder... guess what... they make money of iDevice sold and 10 dollars out of every Android sold... That's how you do business Grandfather style, get paid by all the big players but never have to lift a finger or get blamed. Apple steal from everyone, hell they are still sour Apples after Bill Gates pawned Steve Jobs like a little girl but hey ofcourse Apple can complain, after what Apple did to Xerox it is only logical for them to think they had dibs at ripping companies off. I read somewhere (maybe on a previous post) that Steve Jobs may have meant he was going to destroy Android by putting untouchable technology to kick ass and not this ridiculous constant lawsuit, hell who know I would preferred to think that's what he meant cause it would have made them at least more honorable but apparently the new regime took things down a different path. I am liking Apple less and less, anyways I don't feel like paying for constant outdated technology and for a silver emblem that means nothing to me.

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61. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:34 2 1

Microsoft doesn't own even 1% of Apple

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49. bayusuputra posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:10 0 1

so it's still a feature apple can't use.. full stop.. now GTFO..

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44. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 01:53 1 1

Actually you can't pick and choose what FRAND. That's decided by regulatory agency. But there's no point in explaining to you since you're very ignorant of patents and why certain ones be one FRAND.

51. frydaexiii posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:20 2 1

Learn to read will you? I said "should", as in when I say "Being an ignorant troll should be a crime punishable by death.", does that mean I can report you to the police and gleefully watch your death sentence? Obviously not.

80. jroc74 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 11:33 1 0

You just asked him to read AND comprehend.....that might be too much to ask....

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45. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 01:55 1 5

Might start getting sales? Apple dominates the smartphone industry in sales.

56. frydaexiii posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:26 2 1

Then show your sources. And don't give me that "You know what I'm talking about." crap, you ignorant nut.

60. gallitoking posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:31 1 4

phonearena is my only source for news

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62. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:35 1 3

Really you don't know the iPhone is the top selling smartphone in the world and Apple has 80% of smartphone industry profits? I really need to link that for you?

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67. Non_Sequitur posted on 04 Jul 2012, 04:28 1 1

It's not THAT huge of a number, but it's at least 40%.
Poor sheep.

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72. frydaexiii posted on 04 Jul 2012, 05:44 0 0

Yes, link it. Show me the link that says Apple has 80% of smartphone profits.

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81. jroc74 posted on 04 Jul 2012, 11:41 0 0

So far...just doing quick searches...I see:

Apple...AND Android own 80% marketshare...combined.

Apple had 80% of the profits ...in Q4 of last year...it went up each quarter.

As usual....iFans and their distortion reality field.....lol. We are into the beginning of the 3rd quarter of this year now....wonder if its still 80%?

Besides.....isnt Apple always gonna be tops in profits vs. Android? Based on how they do business and they basically control the hardware AND software? Sometimes....I wish there was only 1 Android phone......so we could see some real apples to apples comparisons once n for all.

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23. frydaexiii posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:47 8 1

More importantly, how the hell is this Google's fault? Isn't that business? Your competitors steal your customers and you make a better product to get them back. Apple makes it sound like Samsung is forcing everyone to buy their products.

26. gallitoking posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:52 1 6

Samsung is doing that look at all of you flocking to buy anything Samsung trows at you guys

32. tedkord posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:04 5 1

No one is forcing anyone to buy Samsung. If you don't want the best smartphones in the world, from the premiere smartphone maker, there's always Apple.

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34. gallitoking posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:10 1 6

neither does Apple but you guys claim that

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36. nicholassss posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:24 1 0

technically speaking, as far as specs go, isnt samsung actually making one of, if not the best phone on the market right now? when the next iPhone comes out i dont doubt it has the potential to be the best phone on the market at the time. but not all phones can be all things to all men.

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47. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 Jul 2012, 01:57 1 7

How is it the best phone when they have to steal technology to make it. Samsung should invest some money in R&D and compete fairly.

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50. bayusuputra posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:14 2 0

forget about OS, see the hardware.. If you can't see why android OEMs are on top of the smartphone frontier, then you are either dumb, or delusional..

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