Samsung asks court to throw out $1.05 billion verdict, saying jury foreman was biased
0. phoneArena 04 Oct 2012, 11:13 posted on
Alleging that the foreman of the jury that ruled against it was biased and failed to disclose important personal information, Samsung filed with the court to throw out the verdict that awarded Apple $1.05 billion and ruled that Samsung had infringed on several Apple patents...
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1. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
It was a sloppy and rushed trial. Neither Koh nor the jury wanted to sort through the entire evidence and ignored quite a bit of evidence that would have hurt APPLE....but this is no surprise.
11. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
All of which are valid points for the appeal brief. Koh doesn't want to re-do the trial, absent directions from the 9th circuit Court of Appeal. Nice try, Sammy, but your attorneys need to focus on their appeal brief.
22. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
well there is a good chance for Sammy if their legal team do their homework. as much as i hate apple, i was not happy with sammy`s legal team. ask google hows it done.
58. Hemlocke (unregistered)
They used the same firm Google uses.
30. jimjam (Posts: 261; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
Of course Koh doesn't want to redo the trial - she screwed up the first one
68. imsickwithphone (banned) (Posts: 76; Member since: 17 May 2012)
SHAME ON YOU HOGAN
SHAME ON YOU
14. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
I knew there was something iFishy about the trial.
17. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Good Heavens, say it ain't so, an iMiStriAl.....?
16. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13424; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I find the judgment to be fair. As I said before, if Samsung had just been more original in their designs instead of copying Apple then they wouldn't have been sued.
20. mahony (Posts: 15; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
Then what happens to Apple when they copy other companies? Have you not seen they way they copy Android and SONY phone designs?
59. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Say what? Care to elaborate, since no Android phones precede the iPhone, nor do any Sony capacitive smartphones?
77. becton (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Sony capacitive phones did precede the iphone....the p900 (the phone the iphone design was stolen from) was released in 2003.
21. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 13424; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Four people don't believe in fair justice.
50. metalpoet (unregistered)
Mxyzptlk, quit acting as if everything that everyone else does is wrong and apple is right. You think that people dont notice you on Phonearena hating everything that isnt apple, you have a massive biased torwards them and its plain to see. at least mask it somehow and give credit where its due. Sumsung is not the greatest company ever but they do make great cellphones!
28. BuckeyeCadet86 (Posts: 77; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Whether you find it fair or not isn't the issue, the issue is about a juror who should not have been on the jury with a clear conflict of interest. This is more than enough to provide a mistrial, if Judge Koh doesn't then an appeals court will. Apple should have known this and requested to have him removed themselves, especially since they were convinced they were going to win.
62. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Samsung had the same opportunities to have him removed.
35. willard12 (Posts: 1705; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
So you don't think the f700 was an original design? In none of your comments do you acknowledge the other side. When apple copies...even to the point of pursuing the employees from Google, you think it's OK. Then you keep saying Samsung copied, even the the f700 that judge Koh blocked from trial, was released at the same time. I understand you are an Apple fan....but you can't comment on how much you hate copying while at the same time supporting the "great artists steal" company.
60. Hemlocke (unregistered)
The F700 is a feature phone with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard and a resistive screen. Those things alone would be enough to render the F700 moot, but the fact that it came out AFTER the iPhone renders it an ignorant submission as evidence.
70. willard12 (Posts: 1705; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Apple didn't sue over feature phones, touch screens or keyboards. They sued over design...black square with rounded corners and a button centered. Therefore, your points are moot. That is exactly why Apple filed a motion to have the f700 suppressed. So Apple lawyers disagree with you. That is why all of Apple's photos of Samsung phones conveniently leave out the f700. It was released 1 month after iPhone. You would have to argue that Samsung copied iPhone, mass produced, and shipped the f700 in 4 weeks. Resistive touch, keyboard, etc have nothing to do with design, scroll bounce, ...so what's your point? Call the lawyers at Apple and maybe they will explain why they filed a motion to prevent the jury from seeing it and objected to any witness that would mention it and then get back to us. By the way, the point is not that Apple copied Samsung its that Samsung didn't copy Apple. We all know Apple copied the LG Prada.
36. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
^reminds me of an old cranky scrooge that aint never satisfied
40. verty (Posts: 122; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Think before you open your mouth. Even steve said he stole from other people......... Now I have not admitted that Sammy stole anything from apple I just qouted Jobs. Sammy is a highly innovative company from which apple has drifted. Thumbs up Sammy the galaxy note is just too good a phone. I am so so ready to pick up the note 2. Lets see apple match it.........hehehehehehehe
66. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Apple will match it once they are free from being too busy fixing the most innovative things ever released in iOS666 ...
42. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
So, when Apple "borrows" things from other companies it's ok, but when Samsung "copies" it's not? Look, there's no doubt that Samsung copied with the original Galaxy S. Anyone who debates against that without viable reasoning is insane. But really, what has Samsung done in terms of copying that Apple hasn't? Nothing. They are both at fault.
My question is; how come when Samsung does something to copy, the hammer gets thrown down on them immediately, but when Apple copies, everybody kind of puts it aside and forgets about it? That's hypocritical. Apple isn't some omnipotent being that can be pardoned for anything. They have to pay the price too. And if you can justify Samsung's 1 billion dollar penalty for copying Apple, then you should also be content with the fact that Apple should be punished as well.
45. DOGIEFRESH (Posts: 302; Member since: 15 Jul 2009)
Is simple American companies get their products ripped off in Asia specially China and nothing happen is insane, now how could a South Korean expect the same fair treatment when is well know they've been copying for decades with nobody pay a penny I give an example Microsoft Products......!!!
53. redsox420 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Big Fruity is an "American?" company, Sammy not. Big Fruity has $400-$500 BILLION in cash.. So thats a lot of weight to throw around. And besides Big Fruity wants to be a monopoly here, where they have failed worldwide to do that, so their focus is America and the uneducated sheep who gobble down their toxic junk.
Samsung gets a raw deal in patents here because the probably won't "grease the skids" at the Patent office if you catch my drift.. and Sammy got a raw deal from this Foreskin posing as a foreman of the jury. His comments right after were a mistake, saying Sammy was guilty from the moment they started deliberating. You should start with is Samsung, or anyone(thing) NOT guilty and then chip away or bolster that. You can't start with Guilty than go from there..
If Big Fruitys "victory" stands, then the company who first made a flat screen 42" tv, basically a rectangle with rounded corners should get a trillion dollars off the design.. Thats the reasoning that should have been applied in this case. Who the phuckkk thinks Big Fruity actually invented a box with rounded corners first needs to have their head examined!