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Samsung and HTC shares get battered to new lows on flagship smartphone slowdown

0. phoneArena 08 Jul 2013, 02:10 posted on

Analysts, who are always clever after the fact, already said that the high-end segment has hit the brick wall of market saturation, and the tepid upgrade that the Galaxy S4 is likely won't excite consumers to break their contracts, not to mention that carriers are making it harder and harder to get a new handset, so as to avoid doling out subsidies...

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posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:18 6

1. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


take that sammy!!

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:26 10

5. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


In case you were blinded by fanboyism the article also mentions HTC. The article clearly points to the slowdown for smartphones sales overall

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:47 3

25. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


if i had said htc,then boom...
there are htc fanboys out there.it may hurt their feelings

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:05 11

34. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Did you actually understood my comment ?!

There is no need to mention either of their names or mention both of them if you absolutely have to.

jeeez........do I even need to spoon feed you now ?

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:26 3

40. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


go back and assimilate your own comment

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:33 8

12. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


At leat they are still way ahead of Nokia.....face it and stop being one of the biggest fanboys around.....stock market means nothing!

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:40 5

17. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


just stop saying the words fanboy everytime,reply with reasonable argument.
stock market means nothing?you must be living on moon i guess.the whole world is standing on stock market

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:47 10

24. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


I reply with fanboy every time because that's what you are a useless Nokia fanboy! Samsung a too big to fall just by losing a couple of shares and having a slight dip...there sales are what people need to focus on and they are through the roof...,Nokia's on the other hand.....also main consumers aren't represented by the stock market it represents analysts and we all know how much analysts know! Face it as son as note 3 and other Samsung phones come out by the end of the year there shares will be back up....Nokia's on the other hand will remain Low!

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:53 4

26. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


just face it dude.PA is reporting so many times that sammy's stock price is falling.just keep saying youself that it will go up as N3 is released.many fanboys said same about even S4

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 05:32 6

56. Oxygen (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/05/investing/samsung-earnings/index.html

This not only concerns Samsung but other companies including HTC, Apple, Blackberry, as well. Industrial analysts say that the top tier of the market is becoming saturated. If this is actually happening to top dogs like Apple and Samsung, I'll let figure out what is happening to underdogs like Nokia.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:45 8

21. rd_nest (Posts: 606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Yea, Sammy will definitely take that more than 8 billion profit. They still made more profit than all other Android and WP vendors combined together. Probably they made 100x more profit than Nokia ever did in it's entire history.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:03 5

44. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


I think we are dealing with a bunch of deluded Sony and Nokia fanboys here. They wish Nokia and Sony were doing this well, but they aren't. Sony are not even in the top 5 phone vendors globally, never mind smartphone vendors.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:38

47. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


you are saying all this because Samsung is selling millions
(even they missed the forcast shipments)
but once samsung is out of the game
either you will change ur username or u wont comment on sony and nokia articles(Rising and Rising)

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 06:12 2

59. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


I'll continue to comment with no problem. When I buy a smartphone I buy what's best for me, if Samsung die out I'll find another phone to buy. Maybe you'll change your username if that happens to your favorite manufacturer but please don't put your habits on me.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 07:04

62. AbhiD (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)


you are just a poor sammy fanboy and sony hater!!!
sony's shares have become 3x in last 6 months... take that sammy a$$!!!
out of the latest customers of xz and other phones 36% are ex samsung owners
people are going for sony and nokia preferring it over your favourite samsung and htc
and sony is indeed in the top 5 smartphone vendors list you a$$

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 09:11 1

64. ncarlosmiguel (Posts: 204; Member since: 14 May 2013)


LOL that 36% ex samsung owners that switched to XZ are like what... .001% of all samsung users?

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 10:00 1

65. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Lol, me, poor? :D hilarious!
Lol, you Sony fanboys are clutching at tiny straws, that whole 36% is a tiny number of Samsungs user base.

Lol, people are going for Sony and Nokia over Samsung? Hahahahah! You are so deluded it is unbelievable. The very reason why Samsung is posting a RECORD profit is because people are going to Samsung.

NO, Sony is NOT in the top 5 smartphone vendors:
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2482816

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:22 11

2. livyatan (Posts: 560; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


So Samsung made a record 8.5 billion in profit, beating even Apple in that regard.
Galaxy S4 shipped 20 million in 2 months, beating the S3 by 50% in that regard.
What am I missing here??

There's no such thing as constantly accelerating growth..and there are limits to market's demand. It is perfectly natural for Samsung to reach peak and even those idiots on wallstreet should know that much.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:29 1

8. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


you are missing the fact that there is lot more to do rather than making a ohone a week.
it tough to be on top forever.once you fall,youre gonna fall so hard just like our own NOKIA

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:44 5

51. wando77 (Posts: 254; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


Not sure they are going to fall like nokia.
Nokia released bad phone one after another that DIDN'T SELL. The gs4 IS SELLING so what you're saying isn't making sense.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:49

53. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


yeah.i agree with u for some extent

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:30 1

9. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


you are missing the fact that there is lot more to do rather than making a phone a week.
it tough to be on top forever.once you fall,youre gonna fall so hard just like our own NOKIA

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:23 6

3. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


Sony u got a big chance here
grab it sony :)

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:24 1

4. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


IMO nokia is gonna be KING now

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:28 3

7. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


I am talking about android
Not windows
In windows nokia is king
Even i agree

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:31 1

11. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


no offence.its about whole smartphones not just one OS

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:34 2

13. NokiaAndr (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


yep nokia is king of windows
but sony is improving :)
no offense
if its just android then yes Sony can make this round

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:30 10

10. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Don't think so. Low light camera phones is not the only thing the general consumer want, on mass level atleast. Whereas, Sony are really promising to deliver with their Honami if the specs turns out to be true !

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:35 1

14. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


open your eyes and read.i have written in caps "IMO".
BTW lets not get started here.both phones r nt even announced

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:39 2

16. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


right
lets not get started

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:41 9

19. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1618; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Hahahah your such a Nokia fanboy....with the lead Samsung and Sony have got Nokia stand NO chance and especially with WP!

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:55 3

27. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


only time can tell

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:46 11

23. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


If you write 'In My Opinion' than actually care to give an 'OPINION'. Simply writing 'Nokia will be King' without any backing suggests you are making a fanboy comment and by 'IMO' suggests you don't wanna be blamed for it.

BTW, by your logic even I mentioned '[I] THINK SO'

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:05 1

35. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


when one says NOKIA will become king,there is no need to substantiate your words.
but its not the case with sony.

anyways i also own sony phone,i like sony to grow but next to nokia:)

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:13 4

37. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


So you are saying, when one says 'Nokia will be the king' he does not need to provide any reason for his argument. But when one makes the same statement towards Sony one will have to ?!

Are you actually reading your comment before posting ?

'nuff said !

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:17 1

39. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


when was last time i heard sony ruled smartphones for 'x' years?
hope u r getting my point

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:40

48. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


you are saying all this because Samsung is selling millions
(even they missed the forcast shipments)
but once samsung is out of the game
either you will change ur username or u wont comment on sony and nokia articles(Rising and Rising)

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:51

54. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


what?r u okay?

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 05:40 2

58. SleepingOz (Posts: 2483; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


Ok, nokia will be the king in your dreams..

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:42 6

43. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Nokia barely have any cash left, they are depending on a OS that is 3rd and far behind iOS, and their phones aren't greatly differentiated from other WPs, so you saying Nokia is going to be king is one hell of a joke. Thanks for the laugh.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:22 3

45. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


is android no.1 from day one?

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 05:36 2

57. tech2 (Posts: 1327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


No. But they did beat the no.1 (ios) in mere 2 years of its inception.

Also, look at Windows little line below (2nd graph) its losing market share ever since it arrived on mobile platform. It currently holds only 3%.

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-9-charts-that-show-its-amazing-growth-2012-3?op=1

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 06:51

61. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


No but it took just 2 years for it to climb to no.1, much faster than what WP is doing. WP has been around for 3years now and it's still nowhere near iOS nevermind Android.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:27 4

6. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


htc is perfect.
one is best 2013.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:56 6

28. raunak (Posts: 490; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)


HTC One's daylight photos are comparable to that of Galaxy S and iPhone 4. Talk about being perfect.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:59 8

31. NokiaAndr (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


htc one got nothing special
and even expensive in my country
when ever i talk about HTC ONe
80% of people thinks "i am talking about HTC ONe X (2012)"

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:01 3

33. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


+1
lol
even in my country too :D

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:40 3

49. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


in my county they say "what?htc?where does he live?"

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:56 3

29. NokiaAndr (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


htc always same design
curved corners thats it :D
htc is even going more down
even one can't save them

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:37 5

15. pyradark (Posts: 710; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)


Sony is eating those market share little by little
icluding other brand like nookia and lenovo

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:42 3

20. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


they are eating even share of bad fruit also

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:41 4

18. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


agree
"Sony Mobile attracts ex-Samsung owners to drive UK market share"
this was the article which we read somedays ago

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:46 1

22. NokiaAndr (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


right :)
i really want sony to come up
as they are improving and providing updates

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 02:58 3

30. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Record $8.5billion profit and 20million GS4s sold. Anybody who thinks Sony or Nokia have a chance are simply deluded, neither company can manage to sell that many of one model in 5months.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:00 3

32. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


even samsung was not able to sell that many when Nokia was king :D
but see the Change ?
like this Sony and Nokia(again) will change this too....

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:33 4

41. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


The difference is that even in their best day, Nokia didn't have the sort of capacity and HW control Samsung has, you have to put things into perspective. Nokia became a sloth, while Samsung are continuing to try find new sources of revenue, spending billions in R&D.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:09 6

36. pyradark (Posts: 710; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)


you forgot sammy is falling little by little and S4 is a so-so success.
you can see how sony destroying sammy outside US, something like this:
"Sony Mobile attracts ex-Samsung owners to drive UK market share"
keep those $8.5B records, coz that will be there last
hahahaha

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:14 2

38. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


sony can make it :)

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 03:38 4

42. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 664; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


How is the S4 a so-so success??? It has sold OVER 20million units in 2months, that's better than the S3 and ANY OTHER Android EVER sold.

Hahahah! Sony destroying Samsung? Don't make me laugh. So Sony got a few Samsung users, what's your point? I bet there are plenty Sony, Htc, Apple etc... Users jumping to Samsung, hence why Samsung are the number 1 smartphone maker. Samsungs profits will continue to grow thanks to their specs, great update support, marketing, bargaining power and R&D.

posted on 08 Jul 2013, 04:30 4

46. wendygarett (unregistered)


Love to see those fanboys fight, even within android...

the articles says clearly and obviously that consumers tired to buy the high end overpriced device, and now it mid range war time, and I love to see the comparison between moto x, Huawei ascent p6, and HTC ONE mini... These three midrange fight attract my attention... Together with non android device like lumia 720, bb q5, and the 4 inch cheap cheap iPhone...

take note phonearena, I WANT you to make these comparison once it done release...

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