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Samsung also working on 'true octa-core' processor

0. phoneArena 30 Jul 2013, 06:25 posted on

A couple of days ago MediaTek announced it’s making the first ‘true octa-core’ processor, meaning that it will have a chip capable of having all eight processor cores…

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posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:27 14

1. mercorp (Posts: 1030; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


For the Galaxy s5!

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:39 3

2. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


....and the Galaxy Tab 4.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:10 4

9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Meh. More like a leak done to take attention back to Sammy. Expect more efforts at optimization of current architecture. GPU will see more cores added, though.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 08:23 4

24. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


If this is true...then the last one was 'false' octa-core processor.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 10:57

32. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


That's why I'm skiped 1-4GS, NOTE 1-3, for 2014 with 5.0 KEY LIME gs 5

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:41 5

3. twens (Posts: 980; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


an 8 core gpu will be much needed. its time we get something close to consoles on tablets

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 09:37

30. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


which consoles the one that are 8 years old or the new ones? lol the new one can even blow high end pc out of the water

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 11:28

33. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


That's simply not true. The new consoles can compete. They're not "blowing anything out of the water".

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 12:42

35. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


yes they are blowing high end pcs for $399 what ps4 offer have you seen gameplay of The division,metal gear solid v,killzone shadow fall and watch dogs?

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 14:34

38. Birds (Posts: 1164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Dude the latest Nvidia GPU is 2.5 times as powerful as a the AMD GPU implemented by Sony. I don't know word for word but the new origin 13 inch laptop has this chip set as well. Combined with a quad core Ivybridge or haswell and you have a device with overall, 4 times the processing power of the latest gaming consoles.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 14:44

39. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


You have no idea what you're talking about if you truly believe that. When console developers make games, they are finely tuning a game for one set of specs. PC developers can't just make games for highest end specs out there or they would be severely limiting who could buy their games. They have to dumb their games down enough to where people who have specs from 4-5 years ago or more can still play too. A PC game tuned to the highest set of specs out there would destroy anything the PS4 or X-Box One have to offer.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 15:48

43. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


huh im talking about graphics i dont care if console developers tuning a game for one set of specs. and wait two or three years then you will see some awesome ps4 games just like when ps3 was released and no matter how powerfull your pc is but it cant play The division or MGS V or GTA V lol

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 18:02

46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


The Nvidia GTX Titan delivers up to 4.5 TFLOPS of performance, while the PS4 only gets up to 1.8.

Also, The Division is all but confirmed for PC release, Ubisoft would be stupid not to release it on PC with the response from the PC gaming community. A PC version of MGS V has already been confirmed to be in the works, and because of the petition for GTA V on the PC, it's all but confirmed as well.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 19:13

47. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


again im not talking about all that gtx titan power im talking about how they optimize it and how many people do actually have gtx titan? lol have you seen the last of us ?if 8 year old hardware can produce that graphics i can see what console games will be in next 2 years and the division HAS not been confirmed for pc no official new nothing and what are you smoking mgs on pc? you must be dreaming same goes with gta v no official news for pc

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 20:04 1

48. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


It's not just the GTX Titan though. The graphics processor in the PS4 is a rough equivalent to the Radeon HD 7790 (about the same class as the GTX 560), and that's a VERY long ways away from high end gaming PCs.

I have seen TLOU, and it does look nice, but on PC it would look even better, that's my point. The hardware on these consoles is so far behind that developers need to dumb them down to run smoothly. Yes, you can play these games that look nice at a decent frame rate, but on even a mid range gaming PC you would get much better graphics at a better frame rate.

I never said The Division was confirmed, I said it was "all but confirmed," which means they haven't made official word on it but it's almost certainly going to happen.

As for MGS;

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/54537/metal-gear-solid-v-may-come-to-the-pc-but-not-a-priority

Kojima says that they ARE making it, it's just not the main priority, but it will come out on PC.

And for GTA V, Rockstar posted a job advert asking to "help bring our latest titles to the PC platform". Which obviously points to a GTA V release on PC. Source;

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/10/gta-5-pc-version-confirmed_n_3572524.html

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 17:50 1

45. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Haha, definitely not. Any gaming PC that can be considered "high end" absolutely tears the Xbox One and PS4 apart.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:43 13

4. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)


another useless implementation from samsung.

even quad core is not fully utilize yet. better focus on single core performance.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:50 8

20. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


It's called research and development. If they do make an octa core they can further improve on it and use it for later. Where's the harm in that?

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:59 6

22. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


ur wasting yo time explaining, some people r born stupid. They kno nothing about research and development. even whn something sounds useless, they will b a use for it in the future.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 08:33 4

26. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Absolutely.

What people here don't understand is that most workload in Android isn't multi-threaded to such extent. In all practical implications, quad core is more than enough. 'Heavy' items like browser is still dependent mostly on performance of single core.

BTW, there is nothing called "true" octa core. Even if big.LITTLE is implemented, it's still a octa core. A SOC with 8 cores is octa core. Doesn't matter how those cores are fired-up.

I would like to see a single app which makes use of 8 cores at same time.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 15:33 2

41. Birds (Posts: 1164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


The app should be called spider...

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 16:48

44. howardbarrett (Posts: 45; Member since: 11 Jan 2013)


google chrome is multithreaded...

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:56 3

5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


The new Exynos 5420 theoretically can run all 8 core simultaneously, but that's not expected to happen due to heat issues. Still, it's a true Octa-core per se.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:12 4

10. tech2 (Posts: 3476; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Its stupid the big.LITTLE architecture makes more sense than a true octa core because hardly any apps use 4 core let alone 8 threads.

If they would go for something like 8 core they are most likely to launch it with A7s which are underpowered or on par with 4*Cortex A15

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:13

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 22052; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


How about a true Octa-core without the per se.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:24

15. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Doesn't make sense until proper multi-core support is implemented in Android, which isn't, so it's pointless.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:28 1

17. Birds (Posts: 1164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Well if that is the case...Google, don't add support for it. You run the House of Android not Samsung.....

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 07:19 1

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Yeah. I would expect more efforts at optimization (smaller die size, faster clock rate, etc.).

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:59 4

6. pwnarena (Posts: 1129; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)


samsung's ego was hurt by mediatek's "real 8-core" processor introduction.

must be really painful to miss being always first in everything.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 08:38 4

27. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


"real 8-core"

Please understand what you talking about. Those are A7 cores. They are low power low performance cores.

Totally pointless. Even if it was 16-core SOC, that would still be pointless. Understand the Android workload properly before you comment. Majority of the workload is largely depend on "per core performance". There is absolutely no benefit of firing up more than 4 cores at same time. An argument can be made that, even a good dual core SOC is much better than a 8core A7 SOC.

A dual core 5250 is much better than this mediatek 8-core SOC.

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