Samsung admits to trolling HTC
0. phoneArena 16 Apr 2013, 18:58 posted on
It looks like the Taiwanese investigation of Samsung will be pretty short, because the Korean company has admitted to hiring trolls to bad-mouth HTC on the web. The investigation began after a Taiwanese website, called TaiwanSamsungLeaks, accused Samsung of hiring people to criticize HTC on the web...
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1. jaymulli (Posts: 20; Member since: 09 Apr 2013)
Oh come on now that is low.
Fight on the battlefield, phone for phone
32. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
HTC kind of did the same to Samsung on the lauching day of the S 4...there was some HTC crew members on the streets...im not sure what they did, if they bad mouthed Samsung or promoting the One, but to do that on their launching event, i guess this is some trolling too.
57. dorianb (Posts: 592; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
The difference was HTC did it openly instead of hiring anonymous people to do it.
98. sharks (Posts: 233; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
EXACTLY! HTC did everything openly and if it did bad-mouth the S4 while right outside the S4 launch event, then people would have been aware and talked about it, or even reported it (we all know how fast these would have spread if it really happened!) but what Samsung has done... VERY CHEAP! It is already the leading phone and particularly the most popular Android phone manufacturer by a huge margin, so why stoop so low?! HTC is already struggling to survive and they finally got a hit with the HTC One but only after pouring their heart and soul into creating the ultimate phone. I'm now ashamed of owning any Samsung phones.
It reminds me of what Intel did to AMD by bribing retailers to sell its own products over AMD and they got fined 1+ billion dollars.
58. darkskoliro (Posts: 1076; Member since: 07 May 2012)
They went around and showed people the camera and boomsound pretty sure. That isnt trolling. That's promoting your product. Not talking crap about another company behind their backs.
62. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
i consider it a trolling because it was on the launching day at the same place...they could have promoted their phone in another place or day dont you think so? HTC didnt tell anybody they are gonna do this, so is kind of behind someones back... its like you are in line waiting to get in to mcdonalds and some guys from subway come to you and start to promote their sandwichs to you.
I consider what both companies did as trolling, but this is normal between companies.
72. darkskoliro (Posts: 1076; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Do you even know what trolling is? What ss has done isnt even trolling. Its being a little pussy and trying to bring others down since it can't do it with its own product. Sure they sell more than htc, does that mean you're going to be a little girl and talk behind their backs as well? Or can do you it like a real person promoting something innovating that you actually have done, like how htc have done showing their boomsound around the USA.
74. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
you dont get the point do you?? im not saying that Samsung was right, but i think what HTC did wasnt right either..ok, they were showing the boom sound, whatever, but think as a corporate person...they were promoting their product, showing to people that were in line to see the S 4....put yourself on Samsung shoes, would you be ok with that situation??
105. Commentator (Posts: 3676; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Uh yeah, they definitely WOULD be considering that their entire 2012 marketing campaign consisted of ads featuring SAMSUNG doing the EXACT SAME THING to people waiting in line for APPLE products.
...Or did you not watch TV at all last year?
Anyways, HTC was being open and honest about their guerrilla tactics, and Samsung absolutely wasn't.
106. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
man, did i say Samsung was right?? not the entire marketing campaing...but thats my point here...people dont understand that this is normal....i remember some ads of coke vs pepsi and vice versa.....thats why i said its normal....the main goal is to sell more of your line and less of your competitor....what HTC did was completely normal, im not disagreeing, but i think its unethical, not that samsung wasnt.
111. Commentator (Posts: 3676; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
How is what HTC did unethical? Were they just supposed to crawl into a hole and wait for the company that is killing them to finish their grand speech? If you're getting beaten up by some guy are you supposed to wait until the guy is finished before you hit back?!?
113. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
if you dont think is unethical, thats fine for me....its your opinion against mine...nothing changes...i think is unethical yes..that was an event, like a party...you dont go to someones party and invite people to another party...you're comparing a beating among guys...these are big dogs....do you really think that HTC would be dead after the release of Samsung?? of course not man...this is not about 1 and only phone...like I said, BIG DOGS.
75. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
and boomsound is an innovation to you? you mean, stereo speakers or how high the sounds are produced?
73. ari5501 (Posts: 5; Member since: 16 Apr 2013)
Technically the initial event of the gs4's launch was trolling HTC. The One was supposed to come out on the 15th of March and the gs4 announcement was on the 14th of March. Obviously the One didn't come out on the 15th but what Samsung was doing with the press event was kind of obnoxious. It's possible that it was just a coincidence but from this article I now think it wasn't.
56. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
its funny how people talk about all these legit statements and big talks... but in their own lives they are canny and miser in some way or the other but point fingers on others, may it be a company (like sammy)...
life is battlefield dude! u have to pull others to get to the top and hey, haven't u heard, "EVERYTHING IS LEGAL IN LOVE AND BATTLE"???
83. heyhi (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
i dont like the idea but i agree with you....if you are in business thats a reality...from the tiny to the big dogs, if they have the chance, they will do it to be on top or just to survive...really normal, like you said, its a battle...you can see that on the famous book "ART OF WAR" by Sun Tzu..its a book about war strategies applied in business.
87. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
No, I havent heard that saying, but I've heard the one that goes "All is fair in love and war"...
88. Steebie (Posts: 9; Member since: 16 Apr 2013)
Wrong! Libel and slander are illegal. Trying to jump each other's launches is totally legit but posting lies (my HTC dies in 3 hours) is illegal.
94. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
shame to samsung..
it seems sami weaker since ever againt one..\
another big mistake form samsung.
go to hell.
2. HASHTAG (unregistered)
That fee is nothing to Samsung.
64. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3107; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
What is there to be jealous of? Samsung is the king of the cell phone market where HTC is barely getting by. The HTC One is their last hope to survive.
119. b1acktiger (Posts: 223; Member since: 19 May 2012)
Why would a King of Cell phone market trolls a company which is going down falls ? Samsung really fear the come back of HTC. HTC One is a real game changer for HTC Corp.
76. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
You should say :
SamDUNG only jealous of Ecstasy. :P
3. wendygarett (unregistered)
Trolling or not, smart people can clearly see that the galaxy s4 is better than HTC one in all aspect, and the sales figures will speak the truth...
4. jaymulli (Posts: 20; Member since: 09 Apr 2013)
No need for childish tactics like this though
5. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
People accuse Samsung of not innovating its sad. The HTC One is literally a glorified/better looking HTC DNA with a 30% faster cpu and different camera, their hardware is so similar on paper they would look to be the same phone almost.
Samsung at least changed most of the hardware but they did choose to keep the same design.
*Better to keep the same design than to use the same hardware in a new design.
18. jaymulli (Posts: 20; Member since: 09 Apr 2013)
Wait hang on, so HTC redesign their software, use different materials and have their phone praised as on of if not the best looking and feeling handset.
They try to change the way people use their camera and that its not all about megapixels.
Yet samsung gets huge praise for reusing a design, reusing last years UI and only adding a a few software tweaks
28. papss (unregistered)
Agreed... HD is a blind fanboy so don't expect anything different. SS is the worst rehasher
43. papss (unregistered)
No they are both the same to me... I won't reward either
44. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
People accuse Samsung of not innovating because its true,
well not everything but many things on S4 its not innovations
71. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
30 percent faster cpu? How is that barely an upgrade? Oh, so the Exynos 5 may be 40 percent more powerful than the S4 pro, and that is somehow much better than the S600? Same hardware? None of the hardware is the same in the One as the DNA, besides the SLCD3 screen. dude, you are seriously stretching. It's reslly ridiculous.
92. true1984 (Posts: 822; Member since: 23 May 2012)
Well, HTC does a little more when it come to innovation. they were the first in almost everything when it comes to phones and in some cases tablets
6. danny_a2005 (Posts: 165; Member since: 06 Oct 2011)
except in build quality... It's just software..
10. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Both have their advantages, I would prefer sense over Nature UX but not for last years hardware (besides the faster cpu) and I would probably just install a custom Rom on it anyway.
24. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
How is the One "last year's hardware"? The S4 is not that far ahead in speed testing, and besides, most phones overpower the networks they run on currently anyway. No longer are networks limited by the devices running on them. It is the other way around at this point.
15. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Alumnium feels better in your hands, makes device feel hotter, also heard it messed with NFC on XDA.
Plastic harder to damage but feels cheap, you can always get a better back cover, used to have an S3 and I used a leather back for better grip/feel.
39. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
plastic is harder to damage but the other part of the phone still easy to damage like the display
S3 it sucks when it come to build quality even compare to aluminium phone like iphone5
even if you compare samsung device with other ''plastic'' device samsung is still the worst
my nokia E6-00 have been scratches and dents, but still looks and feels better than my plastic toy Galaxy S2,
just hoping that gorila glass 3 can help S4 in accidental drop
49. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
The point theyr comparing phones abt build quality, polycrbonate won.. and uve said that other things r prone to damage like d dsplay, all smartphones have their display actually..
60. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
i agree with Lumia 920, Xperia Go, have proved it, that phone is soooo durable.
Build quality not always about durable but premium looks and feels
thats why ROLEX usualy using Gold Did you know that Gold is not the strongest metal on earth???
All smartphone have glass display but have you see the drop test between S3 vs Iphone5
when they drop S3 from the pocket the side of S3 hit first but thanks to bad samsung build quality the display breaks so easly
but When they drop Iphone5 only small dents on aluminium body
17. chistoefurpuffer (Posts: 140; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
Have fun with all the scratches, dinks, chips, scuffs, dents, etc. that you wouldn't notice on "polycarbonate"
There's a difference between them two, that poeple can't seem to understand.
27. jacko1977 (Posts: 428; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
agreed apple was using plastic too till they realised they can suck more money out of people by replacing the whole back case
metal back case 100 - 300
plastic battery cover 5 - 40
25. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
And it also beats glass body phone.
21. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
That is simply your opinion wendy, not a fact. Some people do see the HTC One as a more desirable device, such as myself. Not to mention, if the device is so clearly superior, then why would Samsung troll HTC like this?
Why, if your device is so superior, troll someone else's products unless you view them as a legitimate threat? I am sure the S4 will sell more than the One since it is available on all carriers and Sammy can clearly spend more money on marketing etc(they outspent Apple last year in advertising, if I recall correctly). That said, to me this says that Sammy believes this device is a worthy competitor for them to stoop so low as to do something as classless as this, imo.
7. darkskoliro (Posts: 1076; Member since: 07 May 2012)
I think trolling is a bit far fetched... :(
8. Whateverman (Posts: 3253; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Instead of trolling HTC, how about you guys just do what so many people keep screaming in frustration... Make a metal device! Maybe if you had done that with the GS4, maybe you would be getting all the buzz that HTC's getting right now. Save the excuses and just do it.
38. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Metal???? Why you guys always screaming about metal???
It scratches, dents, chips...interprets with nfc and makes up for bad reception....
We just need more durable polycarbonate.....
No metal, no glass...
41. papss (unregistered)
Agreed 100%, doesn't need to be metal but take that Walmart spray paint off and make the plastic slightly thicker or higher quality
51. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
there is a different between premium devices and durable device
if samsung Device is premium smartphone
why it looks like plastic toy
if it durable smartphone why its not durable
54. papss (unregistered)
I can't believe I'm doing this but SS products are durable in drop test and I've dropped a few in the past with not many issues but I hate the way the newer ones feel in my hand and the way they look though.. They are becoming complacent so that's my beef with them.. Te software is great though
63. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
did you compare it with other device???
What im talking about if samsung want make premium device they must using premium material ( not always metal they still can using other material as long it looks and feels premium ) because premium smartphone not design for durability
''premium devices must have the best look, feel, hardware, and feature''