Samsung "actively working" on 64-bit processors, could launch the first one this year
0. phoneArena 28 Feb 2014, 10:23 posted on
Samsung acknowledges that 64-bit is important, but more because there is demand for it, not necessarily because we need it. Thus, its first 64-bit CPU is likely going to arrive soon...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
26. Finalflash (Posts: 2318; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Yea, in about 1/3 of their Tizen international models....as is it is with their exynos chips.
13. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Samsung should "actively work" on a new design team :)
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
By the way each Note and Galaxy S design changes each year,a I don't think they do. Note 3 is just so damn sexy.
22. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1101; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
In all honesty it seems that the Note is where most Samsung resources are going, being it has 32GB of memory + 3 GB of RAM while the S5 only has 16GB of memory and 2 GB of RAM, not to mention the faux leather back looks much better than the drilled nonsense on the S5.
25. UglyFrank (Posts: 1191; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
S5 wasn't give 3GB ram/16GB rom because that will be save for the P/F series that will be announced alter
30. geordie8t1 (unregistered)
yeah i also think that the s5 is the watered down spec phone and the new F series is the new premium flagship, well heres hoping, but with snapdragon 805 only a month or so away ish, and the fact that samsung have already started mass production of 2k displays, i reckon its a safe bet we will see a new samsung model soon so the s series will be offered in april, the f series in july and note series in october.....
39. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
See, the faux leather is cheesy to me, just like the ugly "rose gold" or whatever they called the band-aid looking one. It was funny to see the number of people that thought it was really a leather back on their N3. I also don't remember anyone having a problem with the holes/dots on the back of the Nexus 7 (2012). Then again the new fade seems to be "hate on Samsung as much as possible" so I guess that explains why.
46. gorkapr (Posts: 73; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
in my opinion, the GS5 with 16gb is a loose situation, if you remember the last year, when they put the "easy Mode" and the touchless tweaks, they grab a lot of the internal memory, more than the half of the 16gb, and they took the same attitude of apple, tell the customers "well, you need to buy a microSD card". but, maybe they do't think in now, because android do not let you to put the apps on the microSD... thats was a win situation for HTC, the normal version of the One was 32GB, and the Sense use LESS storager than the TouchWiz...
45. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)
Unless they delay the release until very late in 2014 or early 2015, it is unlikely that the Note 4 will have a 64-bit processor running Android 5.0. It will most likely have the Snapdragon 805 which is scheduled to ship in 2H 2014 (along with the predictably bigger screen, etc).
Google will either release another 4.x iteration of Android later this year, or wait a few months and launch the Nexus 5 with 64-bit Android 5.0 early next year. Either way, neither Qualcomm or Nvidia are planning to ship 64-bit SoCs until very late 2014 or, probably, early 2015.
3. power_x (Posts: 264; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Note 4 + 64-bit + Android 5.0
That will be sweet
50. Kaiser2007 (Posts: 169; Member since: 16 Nov 2013)
+ LTE for the whole world in one model.
4. mturby (unregistered)
samsung, u should work on updating ur unpopular phones to kit kat as GOOGLE says KitKat is capable on 512 ram phones.
7. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I'm sure this comment can be applied to other OEMs and not just Samsung...
10. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1738; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
It can, but his comment is actually relevant here since it is discussing work that Samsung is doing.
5. mturby (unregistered)
Who wants to try KitKat on a Samsung phone? well, pay at least $450 dls on S3, S4, NOTE 2 OR 3. Why? because samsung wants u to.
6. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
If it can't outrun current 32, that'd be embarrassing.
8. nctx77 (Posts: 1271; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Lol! The S5 is already outdated! Apple threw Sammy for a loop. It's taking them a year to catch up lol! IT OVER Sammy! Iphone 6 and iphone phablet will have this for lunch. Good luck with the cheap plastic!
9. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
So by your logic, all phones announced this week are also outdated?
19. KingaSpades (Posts: 45; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)
I think that he said the S5. Why are you trying to twist that? Are you a Samsung fanboy?
21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
My comment still stands, regardless of said OEM lol.
11. JMartin22 (Posts: 1680; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Most of the phones announced Q1 of the new year are always going to be outdated in 4-6 months. These phones use late-2013 specs with some 2014 facelifts. Simply because all the cutting-edge technology isn't ready for deployment until much later into the year.
12. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
Just like its taking Apple a couple of years to catch up?
They wouldn't be increasing screen size if it wasn't for Android.
They wouldn't be feel pressured to release a Phablet if it wasn't for Samsung.
And i see you're one of those blind Fanboys that's been taught to believe Metal is very premium.
Get your head out of Apple's arse and just enjoy technology.
Btw, a Phablet from Apple may best phablets from HTC or Sony but unless they copy and paste the productivity features of Samsung and LG, it wont beat the Note 4 or the LG G Pro 2
Also, if you want a glimpse of a phablet from Apple, just take a look at an iPad Mini with Retina.
16. Ashoaib (Posts: 2965; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
apple is just a midrange phone sold in highest end price... they just keep them unique by bring something which others are not using and the fan boys or novoices think apple as a high end phone, this is just a great marketing strategy not a great phone... now apple is going to copy samsung by launching phablet which proves apple can copy as well and samsung can be a trend setter as well...
23. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Mid range phone that offers the best user experience to date.
33. Ashoaib (Posts: 2965; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Now I dont think... before, yes... I was also mesmerized by iphone 4 then 4s... I spent AED. 4200 = $1147 to purchase when iphone 4 was newly launched bcoz I was greatly wowed by it... then some extra money in changing to 4s... I was an apple lover that time and neutral about samsung... sunddenly a bomb dropped on me and the culprit was one of my friend, he purchased note 2... I was already disappointed with apple's customer service, I used note 2 of my frnd for few hours only and immediately said WTH iphone sucks... since then I turned into apple hater n samsung lover... I ditched my iphone few months later... this is how I dont think its a great phone, not a good value for that huge amount...
29. cypherl (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
You understand that Samsung manufactures the chip for the Iphone 5S correct? Every Iphone 5S that is purchased is money in Samsungs pocket. Samsung sells 3 times the amount of phones that Apple does.
31. Ashoaib (Posts: 2965; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Correct... Every iphone 5s purchased is a money in samsung's pocket and then apple has to take that money out by bring law suits and the help of icourts...
40. nctx77 (Posts: 1271; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
You do realize that Samsung just manufactured the chip as Apple doesn't manufacturer products. It just design and get someone else to assemble it. According to your logic, Foxconn designed the iPhone lol! Sammy designers and engineers wish they were that talented. It like they went to the local community college and garbed a few students to design there product LOL! Samsung, inspired by Apple!
41. cypherl (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
I believe you are just flamming but I will respond anyway. Samsung engineers oversee production of the chip. Samsung knows everything about the chip. If Samsung decides to have "logistical issues" there are no Iphones for months. In 2013 80% of phones sold had Android. Now, I hope Apple maintains thier small % of market share because competition is good. If Apple designers are so smart why did they stick 1 gig of ram in a 64bit phone? The whole point of 64bit is to exceed 4 g of ram.
32. geordie8t1 (unregistered)
well not only samsung, most of the other flagship devices have similar specs, much like the expected HTC, there is nothing really stand out about any of them, the only problem with the S5 is its build, nothing wrong with its internals, although the storage could have been upgraded to min 32gb.
all these companies are offering phones with only subtle upgrade features.
they have also released their phones to early, if you want more power then the devices should have been offered closer to the summer when SD805 chips hit, then the devices would have been slightly more futureproof
47. christophersalse (Posts: 99; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
I love the iPhone, but you sound so delusional.
48. Ashoaib (Posts: 2965; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Your love of iphone doesnt mean someone is delusional
49. christophersalse (Posts: 99; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
I hope you know my comment was directed at nctx77.
14. Loubielou (Posts: 452; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Samsung New Premium "F" Smartphones might have these installed,as there Galaxy S5 might not be Good enough for alot of consumers
15. strikercho (banned) (Posts: 156; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
Poor copycats...only a year after Apple. How desperate could it be, when you don't know what's next from Apple to copy? :)
17. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
You do realize that the Smartphone industry was headed towards 64-bit right?
Sooner or later it was bound to happen.
It was an evolution, not a revolution.
Besides, for now it was just a marketing feature for Apple. As it will be for Samsung and all other OEMs.
All it really did for the iPhone was future proof it as there are no benefits as it stands right now
And by your logic, Apple copied Motorola for the fingerprint scanner and Windows Tablets for the 64bit mobile processor?
24. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If you really think the A7 has no benefits at all, then you need to use Google asap...
35. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
I meant no perceivable benefits.
Yes, the A7 is faster and more efficient etc.
but the way iOS is optimized, at its current state, 64-bit only helps to future proof it.
The average consumer wont be able to tell the difference in performance between say the Mini or the Mini with Retina
So for now, it was more for marketing. Which can be said about any OEM.
Only reason im upgrading my Mini to the Mini with Retina is the improved display
37. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10087; Member since: 14 May 2012)
There is a HUGE difference between the Mini and Retina. The Mini 2 flies through any app while pushing that monster resolution screen. You should definitely demo both side to side to understand what I'm talking about.
38. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
Which is why i said "to the average consumer"
Us tech lovers will of course nit pick everything from specs to real life usage to design to features etc
An average consumer wouldn't put them side by side and test them like you stated.
18. HouTexan (Posts: 404; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)
You mean like Apple increasing its screen size? You mean like Apple's upcoming "phablet"? Have a seat.
34. geordie8t1 (unregistered)
well, didnt apple technically copy 64bit idea from a computer? an idea from the 1970 when it was installed for the first time in super computers.
Didnt apple copy the fingerprint tech from Motorola, who in turn copied it from Fujitsu from back in like 2007 ish,
Didnt apple also copy most of the design features from android notifications and settings along with most of the software design features in IOS 3-4-5-6-7, yep.
Didnt apple copy the iphone name in Brazil? the point is, dont be a blind fanboy, ALL phone companies purge ideas from other tech and redesign it etc. 64bit chips are the natural progression for smart phones, even if they are not needed yet, clearly samsung is not releasing them till google has optimized everything to run these chips, how much benefit will it bring??? currently i bet minimal but it is future proofing, and fingerprinting, didnt htc put it on one max first and only now has samsung put one on, nobody said boo about them
43. wilsong17 (unregistered)
that the problem with fanboy they dont do research clearly google is working on 64 bit since 2010-2011 look it up people
but android is already 64 bit capable
42. wilsong17 (unregistered)
if you mean one app at a time no thanx you can keep your junk iphone
still no multi task 2014 wow how lame
28. Mike604 (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
Really enjoying this comment section...
Keep it up PPL...
36. JMartin22 (Posts: 1680; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
What's the point of making their own in-house chips if they can't bring forth compatibility with all the markets in the world, have it close-sourced, and are just going to use the competitor's SoCs in 90% of the phones they sell? They really need to be more cohesive now.
44. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)
Not sure why Sammy bothers with their Exynos chips when they ship Snapdragons in most of their handsets.