The Samsung I8000 Omnia 2 has been busy. First, as we previously noted in Friday's News Bits, the handset made it through the FCC with all the appropriate boxes checked by the Feds. While no carrier designations have been made, the device is sporting UMTS 850/1900 which means the Omnia 2 could be heading to AT&T in the States and to Rogers in Canada, but for now it looks like Latin America will be home for this model. The handset carries a 3.7 inch AMOLED, WVGA resistive screen featuring Advanced R Touch for quicker and more accurate touch response. The unit also features a 5MP camera, dual LED flash, geotagging, and AF with smile and face detection. While the phone will be powered by Windows Mobile 6.1 professional, Samsung's TouchWiz 2.0 will be on board, offering a 3D UI, all running on an 800MHz processor.
After spending some time with the FCC, the Omnia 2 took off to star in a nice little video for your viewing pleasure. No, it isn't South Beach, but we're sure the device had a great time. All that is lacking now is some definitive word on the carrier, launch date and pricing.
When is verizon going to announce something already? Yea the UI is boring touchflo3d is better, but it looks beautiful come on vzw release it before AT&T does. We all know verizon takes decades to release a phone so I think att will release it quicker..I personally don't want att to get it because they already have several good phones plus that overrated iPhone, let vzw get something good for a change. The best phones vzw has is the omnia,storm,lg dare, and bb tour that's it just four!!!
WOW SERIOUSLY, DO YOU LIVE IN A BARN MAN OR IN THIS CASE VERIZON'S BARN? CUZ ATT HAS NOT ONLY THE LARGEST SELECTION IN PHONES. THEY HAVE THE LARGEST SELECTION IN BLACKBERRIES(BOLD, 8900,8310,8320,PEARL8110,.. SOON ENOUGH THE STORM2, ONYX, AND PLUTO) AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL CARRYING EVEN MORE HIGHEND SMARTPHONES VERY SOON. JUST LOOK UP ALL THE PHONES THAT VERIZON HAS AND THEN LOOKUP ATT AND THEN TELL ME THAT VERIZON HAS THE HIGHEND PHONES. NOT INLCUDING THE PHONES THEY ARE GOING TO LAUNCH SOON. IGNORANT PEOPLE PLEASE! LOL
Seems like AT&T pays alma-cafe22 by the cap-locked word.
Alma, surely hmcougar09 is incorrect about Verizon having all the high end phones, but it does have the best network. I have had Verizon for 6 years, and I have never...and let me add a dramatic pause...never dropped a call, or been anywhere that doesn't have at least 2 bars. AT&T is widely laughed at in terms of service, and Verizon is laughed at for releasing phones just in time for their rivals to get the second generation of that model.
Verizon is going to get the Omnia 2, it is known info. This particular version is not the one going to Verizon, but one will come soon. I personally would rather have a phone work well, as oppose to having a phone that is revolutionary but can't even make a call.
On a side note, when you say things like "...it looks like WE will carrying even more..." it makes it clear that you work for AT&T. Take off your Caps lock and go fix your network.
lol. Love your comment superjew.
Largest Blackberry selection on ATT? Don't VZW and ATT have the same amount:
ATT: Bold, 8900, 8320 (8310 discontinued as is the lower model of 8320), 8110. = 4 (5 if you count both 8310/8320)
VZW: Storm, Tour, 8330, 8230, 8130, 8830 =6 (4 if you don't count the last two since they are on there way out.)
Seems like the same to me.
Storm 2 will be exclusive to VZW. There is a change ATT will get the first Storm though 9500, Same phone without CDMA (9530)
Well well well, It seems to me that bigred people really don't understand the whole matter. Att is a wonderful service. First off, if their so horrible, why is it they are the 2nd largest network. Also, why do they have the lowest churn rate? Hold on, before your heads pop off and a big red V and Z replaces it, why was Att the largest network with out the Iphone for three years before bigred acquired Alltel? Lastly, if bigred is so much the 8th wonder of the world, why hasn't all of Att, minus 3 million iphone users jumped ship to VERIZON as well as all other cell phone users? I'll tell you why, its nothing more than a whole lot of verizon fools running their mouths, talking crazy, blowing things out of proportion, and making verizon the grand master Shit of a company (in their simple minds) as if BigRed is paying them a large salary.One more thing, if you put a million Iphones on Verizon's network; it would cripple the Rev do A. So give me a break and get a life.
well aparently your the only one that seems to think that way becuz your loyal verizon customers seem to keep rollin in for the Iphone, which for the record I am not too fond of. but hey you keep posting your comebacksif thats what makes you feel good cuz i bet you work for verizon and let me guess what position work in ... ur hands and knees!
I would really like to read the article that you found stating that AT&T has the lowest churn. Everything that I have found so far says that Verizon Wireless has the lowest rate of churn in the industry. And even in early 2008, when AT&T was the biggest US carrier, Verizon was still posting the lowest churn, 4 years straight. Not to say that AT&T isn't a wonderful service, but less people leave Verizon Wireless than AT&T. As for adding a million iPhones to Verizon, AT&T should pray that never happens, but if it did, the network is already in place to handle the strain. That isn't the reason that AT&T has an inferior network. It just that Verizon focuses more on that aspect of the service, where as AT&T appears to focus on offering a wider selection of phones, which could explain why everyone haven't jumped ship. But both approaches seem to be great for business since they are No. 1 and No. 2. But just because more people have a better experience with Verizon than they do with AT&T, doesn't mean they are fools.
I wasn't calling the whole customer base fools. Its just the ones that get on here and talk foolishness. Also, Att needs to pray for nothing. If they had the numbers then, they can keep them, with or with out the iphone. This is the type of foolishness I'm talking about. The over ratted iphone didn't make Att. Att had it going on when iphone was a forethought. And check your facts, Verizons network would cripple if they had 1/2 the Iphone users, not to mention that their network is almost peaked out now. Fact is, iphones use is tripple the amount of data that common PDAs use which is half of ATTs problem. Being the All AMERICAN fortune 500 company they are; thay just invested 10 billion into their networks, when finished will be = to Europe's 3g if not better. This will be completed in a few months. When the time comes, they'll leap frog into LTE. What will Verizon folks say then when your no longer so superior in a few months. And you see that bigred is in a hurry to build GSM based LTE. Unless its Vodaphones doing.
First of all Facts&truth, I have ATT and Verizon, so let's get that out of the way.
Real FACT: ATT is only the size, because Cingular and ATT merged. Remember that? Verizon at the time had leaps and bounds more customers than both of those company's separately. When they joined, they then had I think it was around 4-6 million more customer based depending on the Quarter.
Real FACT2: Verizon does have the lowest churn rate on average. The only Quarter that Verizon has a higher churn rate then ATT is in Quarter 2 for the last 3 years (Funny new Iphone's have been released all those Quarters. Hummm) But on average, Whatever man is right as an industry whole and year after year they have the lowest churn year after year.
Real FACT3: CDMA EVDO/EVDO RevA can handle up to 4.7x More data traffic on a 800-900Mhz Band, than ATT's current HSPDA 3G before network quality and speed degrade. Example: 867mhz frequency on CDMA tower can handle 3410 users at one time. ATT running the same frequency tower same spot same characteristics can handle 726 users at one time. The higher the frequency (Mhz) you go, The less of a difference the two make. Lower the Mhz, the more people you can handle, higher the Mhz the less people you can handle, but the coverage area spreads further but does not penetrate as well. (Example: Downtown NYC, you'd see almost all 800-850Mhz towers, A high way across Kansas: 1900Mhz without question)
Real FACT4: LTE IS NOT A GSM BASED TECHNOLOGY. I work for a chipset manufacturer that 90% of the phone manufacturers use. LTE is skewed to thinking its GSM based because it is GSM's only available Migration path. CDMA Migration path is either Ultra Mobile broadband or LTE. LTE is a 3GPP/2 (3GPP/2 has nothing to do with 3G network it's a "3rd Generation Partnership Project 2" technology that's collaboration between associations building the project). What people are confused about is the original project "3GPP" was to build out a technology called LTE-Advanced which was a GSM only based technology. But because of the benefits of CDMA and is spread spectrum technology and the connivence of using SIM Cards with many world GSM carriers. LTE (Release/Revision 8) Now just known as just "LTE", takes of both technologies and incorporates them and makes them backward compatible to there prior generation networks based on 2/3G technology from there respecting carrier. So a Verizon LTE phone will be able to roam/use network in LTE area's where ATT has LTE, and ATT LTE on Verizon LTE, but as LTE is not available they will fall back to there predecessor 2/3G technology "HSPDA/EVDO-Rev.A", and as you know our current 2/3G technology is not compatible.
I hope this makes sense, please if you do not know what your talking about please don't post as if something as fact without knowing all the facts first. It gets peoples perception skewed on what certain technologies are, how they are used, and how they work.
Thanks Sinful u always know your stuff bro. I did some wiki searching and looked up some stuff and your right dude. U never steer us wrong. Sucks that my carrier choose wimax which seems dead to everyone except in sprints eyes for some reason but oh well. I hope we don't suffer getting some good phones or other things just cause we got wimax Thanks bro good post.
Wrong wrong wrong, Cingular did not merge with att wireless. Cingular acqruired attwireless which was a totally different compamy than the new ATT. The New AT&T bought 60% stock in cingular and it then became apart of the New AT&T. The new att is a meger between SBC and AT&T ThankYou very much. Now check that fact. Now, I wouldn't give a good god damn who you worked for. Don't egzagerate the facts for your beloved company. LTE is umt besed. Who pimarely uses that, GSM. Not to mention, Most of GSM is starting to use HSPA+, thats 3 times faster than evdo-rev a. And why is evdo starting to peak out? Fact: CDMA carriers are have to spend way more money to build out LTE than GSM carriers. Another thing, the only reason BigRed is and was so large: (not large as u made them) they are co owned by Vodaphone. Simply put, Verion was 4 or 5 different companies in the last 15 years. They were last called GTE in 1999 (very small).Then they had a joined venture with Europe's Vodafone who acquired several companies. In 2000 Vodafone called it Verizon Wireless, in which it became the largest Cell Carrier. Thats who brought them up and out. So, when Cingular who was the largest acquired Att Wireless, not att mobility because it didn't exist yet.Cingular became the largest who then was bought out by the New AT&T. Now, get those facts. Also I have both services, 1 for work and 1 for personal. One more thing, if Verizon is so Great, drop your Att service like I'm going to do with my Verizon service when my personal contract is up in a couple months. Good Day,
18.sinfulta(Posts: 272; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Does it really matter? Verizon does business as the Verizon name because it's a conjunction of names that make up the name Verizon Wireless. Nobody was sitting in a board room and said: Hey Verizon sounds cool, let's do that. Verizon is a dba (Doing business as), which means they operate under one name but are several different companies.
I'll break it down for you. Verizon is technically Cellco partnership. As a Verizon employee what there paycheck says, depending on when they were hired and what market they were in it will say something different. Airtouch, Bell Atlantic, GTE, Horizon PCS, Voda... etc. That's where the name comes from. Vodaphone already owned stake in Bell Atlantic, and Airtouch at the time Verizon Wireless was formed.
EVDO network is not capped, just like GSM 3G migration path. EVDO Rev.B and Rev. C. Will be leapfrogged for LTE. Verizon went a LTE based route which is not the same LTE 3GPP technology you are thinking of. It's 3GPP2 Revision 8, which it's own technology based on it's self. I work with this technology day in and day out and build the chipsets for probably the phone your using now. (Unless your using and HTC) LTE is not as expensive as EVDO to build out. But is more expensive than HSPA technology. Thus why ATT and maybe Tmobile at some point are expanding and upgrading existing. Sprint's 4G competivite WiMax service is deathly cheap to build out, and they way there debt is. I'm actually not surprised they went this route.
LTE is UMTS based ON, but is NOT GSM what-so-ever, but UMTS is not a GSM either it was just a migration path to deploy 3rd Generation services. It requires new cellular towers, Can not be deployed with existing, people relate it because there is sim cards used, but it only uses concepts from GSM and CDMA. GSM for sim swappable activations and CDMA for it's spread spectrum technology. I took the time to Wiki it for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
Taken straight from the LTE page for your reference too:
The main advantages with LTE are high throughput, low latency, plug and play, FDD and TDD in the same platform, improved end-user experience and simple architecture resulting in low operating expenditures. LTE will also support seamless passing to cell towers with older network technology such as GSM, cdmaOne, W-CDMA (UMTS), and CDMA2000.
I'm sorry about your precious ATT that I made a comment that they merged. Sorry. I was trying to keep it brief for the folks reading as they know they joined together/merged/adopted/bought out. Does it really matter? VZW had 61million subscribers what that took place. ATT was just over 25 million with Cingular hovering at over 41 Million. So by comparasion it was leaps and bounds more customers yes my statement was true.
BTW I have all my facts straight. I have both services that I use daily both are provided from work as I deal with chipsets for all kinds of manafacturers. All our employees have one CDMA phone and One GSM phone.
Your so defensive as one would only believe you work for ATT and are drinking the cool aid. I don't have any problems with either of my services and they definetly both have plus and minus'es. I'm not defending VZW, it's just that all your statements are about ATT and how great they are. If you look at my past history of posts I am not biased towards either.
But I don't need a sales rep working in an ATT store because they are slow telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. At this point your just being rude.
No, I dont work for Att and U couldn't pay me to work for a cell phone company. Sorry for coming across rude. At the end of the day none of them are paying my salary. They couldn't, so I don't care which ever way. I'm gona get mine and my family will be well taken care of and it wont be by a cell phone carrier. As with U, in Indy I see no difference between the two, except the att 3g does seem to be a little faster just not as consistent. On Att I have a Nokia E71 unlocked and on Verizon, a omnia. Whats the deal?