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Samsung Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab not getting ICS

0. phoneArena 23 Dec 2011, 02:38 posted on

Just recently, Samsung updated us on its Ice Cream Sandwich update schedule and which devices are getting it and to our great disappointment the Samsung Galaxy S and…

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posted on 23 Dec 2011, 04:35 2

20. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I think the problem started with Verizon, honestly. We all know that carriers are king in this country. Motorola had the Atrix wrapped and ready, and except for the Bionic, we only saw minor refreshes of other phone lines on Verizon. Verizon probably demanded an Atrix equivalent for CES with an announced launch period not far behind the Atrix. I mean, look at the original Bionic design; except for the bigger screen, it's pretty much a Bionic clone.

I mean, this is all speculation, but I'm convinced Verizon just forced Motorola to try to pull off a phone in way less time than should have been allowed. Then what Motorola whipped up was so (understandably) full of issues that Verizon had to grant them more time. But by then the damage had been done, so they felt they had to release a phone called "Bionic" no matter what it was.

The Bionic is not a bad phone by any right. It just didn't scream "SUPERPHONE" like the Razr does. I don't know, maybe I do give Moto too much leeway.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 04:47 3

21. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I think you really are giving Motorola a little too much leeway.

"Motorola is easily one of the worst. Since May, Motorola and Verizon together have launched four nearly identical DROIDs: DROID X2, DROID 3, DROID BIONIC and DROID RAZR. As if that weren't enough, there are two more on their way in the not too distant future, the DROID 4 and DROID RAZR Maxx. Samsung isn't much better about fire hosing phones...." - phonedog

The onslaught of phones is not an accident. Android manufacturers know exactly what they're doing. And its working.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:30 2

34. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


The thing is though, those four droids are not even close to nearly identical.

Yes, they are all Motorola. Yes, they are all "droids".

BUT

Droid X2: Large screen option for those who don't want/need LTE.
Droid 3: Medium screen size with keyboard for those who don't want/need LTE.
Droid Bionic: Large screen option with removable battery and LTE.
Droid RAZR: Large screen option with smallest size, no removable battery and LTE.

They are all definitely similar, but that's the beauty of Android. We have options. I'm not bashing Apple because there aren't options but that's the EXACT reason I love Android phones... I get to decide what I want.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 15:29 1

50. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Of course they aren't identical, but they are extremely similar. I mean come on. Razr Maxx? They could have gotten away with three devices. Why would anyone chose the Bionic over the Razr? What's the benefit of having the Droid X2? Imagine if every manufacturer was as bad as this (it probably will in the near future). You'd have 15-20 devices of basically the same thing on the same carrier. And the problem with some many phones is that they run into trouble updating them because there are so many!! Definitely not effective

HTC says that in the future they plan on releasing one flagship handset once every 6 months. I think that's a smart move.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 07:00 1

28. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


Although the Razr has been critically acclaimed and wanted by many people, Moto still got quite a franchise out of the bionic which I read has solde approx. 14 million units, now thats close to the Thunderbolt so it has been pretty successful, to this day Moto has popped off about 4 million Razrs so both the Bionic and the Razr did well financially.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 15:31 1

51. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


yes and now there are a lot of really pissed bionic owners. The Droid Bionic was suppose to be the flagship device. I'm sure those users aren't happy when they see all those razr commercials that's always airing on tv and in the internet.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:34 2

35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Alright, Imma hop in this one.
As an owner of an SGS1 variant.. AKA the Vibrant.

Im RUNNING ICS right now!! :)
Isnt XDA Grand?

Look, if samsung wants to play the update game again, then its on them. The Vibrant is running ICS flawlessly right now. ive pushed it to quadrants over 3100... which for a 2 year old single core phone, is amazing. The crapdragon S3 can barely do that with tweaking.

Samsung still hasnt given us official 2.3 on the vibrant like they promised 8 months ago, so its not really "dissapointing" to be officially dumped from ICS as much as it is "par for the course".
And its not because the phone isnt capable of it.. like i said, im running it right now... its because most vibrant owners are coming up on their 2 year contracts. Why give em the milk when u can convince them to buy the cow? Everyone complains that samsung copys apple.. why wouldnt they copy bad business strategies as well? :)

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:04

43. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


Well people still purchase the SGS variants right now, its alright if you got the thing 20 months ago, but its still worth updating considering a LOT of people bought that phone

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 23:22 1

62. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


when YOU buy it makes no difference. You dont get a special voucher for when you buy it that says "garunteed upgrades for 2 years from purchase date"
in fact, it doesnt say guaranteed upgrades at all. You buy a phone for what it has on it when you buy it. not for what might one day come down the pipe. The only expectation you should ever have is for bug fixes.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 01:37 1

64. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


Yes but the various SGS variants were still being marketed as super high-end devices until around February this year and if some1 non tech-savvy got it around that time thinking it was a future proof they would be disappointed it would not get the update.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 10:46

67. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


again, it doesnt make a difference when its bought. period. no matter how its marketed.

its marketed for that moment.. right when you buy it. its not marketed for future updates that may or may not happen.

Again, you never buy a phone for a future update other than bux fixes. either love it the way it is out of the box or get something else.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:54 2

46. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


you make perfect sense. +1 for you

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:23 1

33. Retro-touch (Posts: 273; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


That's if you buy phones on contract what about people who pay the full retail value for their phones. If your on contract, fine and good it seems reasonable but if you used your hard earned money and some douche decides not to update so you can upgrade, would that seem reasonable then? If the guys at XDA can make smooth ROMS why can't Samsung do the same on their official releases. I have never run stock software on my Captivate and wouldn't want to, I'm in Africa I get no benefit from anything official. Check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362092

If some guys can do that in their spare time, why can't Samsung with their billion dollar company manage the same feat? Custom overlays are useless and simply slow updates and put in useless extras that aren't necessary, I've used most of them; Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur and they don't add much except to screw people up when an update is there. Face unlock and Hangouts can be omitted and the original SGS can use face unlock! Don't know whether Americans know anything beyond their borders but what happens in your strore isn't the experience of the rest of the world.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 03:55 4

14. saeen (Posts: 20; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Hmm, where's Apple store? I'm going to buy iPhone 4S.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 04:18 4

17. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Okay. Have fun with that, sparky.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 04:49 1

22. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


yeah, just a tad bit unecessary

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 04:21 1

18. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


For once I think LG has played their cards better then samsung, they only released 3 major smartphones knowing they can update them all

If LG can update the Optimus Black to ICS then Samsung can most certainly update the SGS.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 05:02 3

23. jibraihimi (Posts: 764; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


If touch wiz optimization is issue and reason for not upgrading SGS to ICS then Sammy, please do one thing, remove touch wiz from the ICS update for SGS, and release the ICS update for SGS without the touchwiz............. Because if Nexus S can get it, optimus black can get it, an every single core xperia mobiles can get ICS then why not SGS.............. Sammy don't forget SGS was the phone which really made people notice you as good smartphone making company...... So don't let the adopters of SGS down, and please release official ICS ROM for SGS, without touchwiz.........

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 05:24 1

24. israelian (Posts: 12; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)


Sony Ericsson Xperia Live Walkman and Mini which are way too inferior hardware than Galaxy S will get an ICS update.

Bad excuses samsung!!! Nice try though.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 05:33 3

25. AzmiAb (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Xda dev.....problem solved!

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 06:01 2

26. jdh4455 (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


thats why i will be going to windows phone...all handsets get all the updates...samsung sucks

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 06:44

27. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


hahahahah i am so laughing my ass of because my friend is here and he has an SGS lololol
he has Android 2.3 on his SGS and sadly his prossecor will still overheat and his bettery will fall like a fat man from a 30 story building

and i will just chill here with my iPh..... lol you thought that i have that iPhone... yea right
i currently own a Nokia N8 and N9

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 19:13 1

60. jellytime (Posts: 135; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Troll gtfo.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 07:01 2

29. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/2011/11/ios-fragmentation-is-it-worse-than.html

IOS is more fragmentated than android

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 07:04 1

30. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


I also fail to understand why the GSI is not getting ICS. I believe it would handle ICS in terms of RAM hardware, etc. And 2 cores have proven not to be a system requirement. 1 core clocking at 1GHz is also not a minimum requirement as a lot of other 800MHz phones are getting ICS.

Samsung just wants to sell their current offerings... Which is not fair to early adopters

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 07:11

31. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


this sucks, comparable HTC models are getting it.. soo sad..

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:38 2

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


theres an HTC model with a hummingbird and powerVR set up? Amazing!

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:37 2

37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


"This only confirms fears about even further fragmentation on Android with ICS. The new version was supposed to fix the issue, and it’s very disappointing to see a very powerful handset like the Galaxy S be left in the gutter so soon."

Umm.. ICS is to fix the issues going FORWARD, not backward. We all know there are some good handsets that are going to be left in the dust and a lot of cheap crap as well. The SGS is more than capable of getting ICS but its not the end of the world.

A phone is not less awesome because it doesnt get an update. If it was awesome before an update, then its still awesome after the update. People get too nutty about updates that they have no idea what it does.. they just want it because its an update.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 08:43

39. Retro-touch (Posts: 273; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Well I'm using ICS and I know it works way better and smoother than gingerbread so I want it. Actually the reason I want it is so a better version can be provided on XDA but still is it too much to ask for vanilla android, they won't lose customers for doing it. The 3GS still selling isn't hurting Apple!!!???

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 09:24 1

40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


relax. When the version for the NexusS hits the wild, we will have everything we need for our developers to make a proper ICS rom for the SGS series. It IS the same phone after all. The roms now are just missing some samsung drivers that the nexusS will provide us.

iphone users dont get fanatical about updates like android users do. Most iphone users barely know how to use their phone much less try to install cydia or figure out what version they are running.

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