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Samsung Galaxy S IV to launch in April with S Pen functionality?

0. phoneArena 28 Dec 2012, 07:42 posted on

Here is a juicy rumor fresh out of Korea - the Samsung Galaxy S IV might be the first handset in the series to launch with an S Pen and the accompanying functionality…

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posted on 28 Dec 2012, 08:41 1

14. Justme2018 (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


No Pen and get rid of the home button! Had the Galaxy Nexus, loved the on screen buttons! Substantially better performance with the on screen buttons. 5" is to big of a display for a phone, the feel of the smaller Galaxy Nexus is more comfortable then 4.8" G III. I have both.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 08:47 6

15. uneedhelp (Posts: 19; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


AMOLED DISPLAY AGAIN?????????????? THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:24

25. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


surely you didn't hold out hopes that they wouldn't use their own displays... xD

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:21

37. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


I see the potential for Amoled to be good, but it isn't right now. Unless you plan on keeping your device for a short amount of time.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 20:59

100. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


What's not good about Amoled?

posted on 29 Dec 2012, 01:29

104. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Burn in, over saturation, power consumption when displaying white. For me, the biggest annoyance is the over saturation. Makes things look cartoonish. Anyway, the aforementioned issues really aren't that bad because you can (mostly) correct the colors, you can get darker themes for you phone and burn in sounds pretty rare. If they can fix those problems, Amoled is thinner, it can display more of the color spectrum and has better contrast. I just wish those basics were dealt with.

posted on 29 Dec 2012, 01:41 1

105. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Burn in is actually very rare. I know about 10 people who have Amoled displays on their phones, me included, and I have neither heard or experienced that. Even someone who has had his old Fascinate since day 1 on Verizon hasn't experienced any issues.

As for power consumption, most of the time when manufacturers use Amoled displays, they make their UI darker to not only compliment the display, but also use less battery.

I can see where you're coming from with the saturation, but a lot of people find that to be Amoled's key feature, they love the vibrancy of it. Some people don't enjoy it though. Personally, it gives me headaches, which makes owning a GS2 tough, but I'll be switching over to the Nexus 4 soon.

posted on 29 Dec 2012, 02:36 1

106. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Yeah burn in is pretty rare, and you can fix it with a simple app running overnight.
Power consumption during white reproduction.. well it didn't stopped S3 from beating many SLCD phones in browsing tests.
Over saturation and contrast are a strain on the eye if you put the screen on high brightness, but the thing is, you don't have to do that.
I mostly have filter on my screen when browsing.
Besides that, it's not more strain than the LCD, in my experience.
Watching a full length movie feels the same as on the LCD

Last but not least, you can CHANGE THE SCREEN MODE on the S3.
Picking a natural mode gives you a LCD like effect and removes the saturation.

posted on 29 Dec 2012, 22:18

114. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Thanks for answering in such a civil way. I agree that power consumption is much more of a technicality than a real-world issue. Although a lot of phones don't have the ability to change between color modes. Something else I didn't bring up is pentile. Not really an amoled problem because they don't have to arrange the pixels like that but they do 99% of the time. Amoled can't beat LCD when it comes to defined text and icons.

posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:44

119. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Civil way as opposed to my usual what? Haha.
Anyway you're right about pen tile.. I can actually distinguish the pixels on S3.
But it really isn't much of a problem even on 306ppi, and the sub pixel arrangement has some specific rendering taking place compared to RGB.
So really thin lines look bad in comparison, but other objects are somewhat compensated regarding the details.

Besides, on 440ppi none of this will matter, even if it's still pen tile.
It will look tack sharp

posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:48

120. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


..Oh I actually missed to mention my biggest gripe with the S3 ' screen!
It's the black clipping, i.e. inability to reproduce full gray scale.
It really sucks with dark scenes!
But it's a software issue that with a promised fix underway. Note 2 doesn't have it

posted on 31 Dec 2012, 14:01

122. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


No, I was just expecting normal internet bashing. I didn't exactly set the mood well.
I agree that once you get to a certain PPI, pentile won't matter. However I don't think we're there yet. That was kind of my original point was that amoled isn't that bad but they do have some pretty major issues that could be easily fixed.

posted on 29 Dec 2012, 12:27

108. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


Some people actually like vivid over saturated colours. Everyone has a personal preference. When I look at displays my eyes just like to at the more vivid colorful one, like amoled.

posted on 31 Dec 2012, 14:02

123. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Which is why the display settings on the S3 is cool that you can change that but most phones don;t.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:07

18. Seymur (unregistered)


Not a good idea

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:10

19. Valdomero (Posts: 178; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


5-inch screen? how I'm supposed to put it in my pocket when I'll try to steal it?

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:16 3

22. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


Just don't steal it man, simple.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:34 1

27. Valdomero (Posts: 178; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


That was a joke actually, I better stick being an engineer rather than a comedian -.-

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:09 1

32. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


haha cool

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:34

42. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


and you're PHONE will always be sooo small and tiny when everyone else have 5" SCREEN.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:21

23. tll84 (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)


"Samsung is allegedly looking to unite its Note series with the flagship Galaxy S IV"

Based on that comment alone, of course S IV will come with a S Pen. If they are truly trying to merge the two into one device (correct me if I misunderstood) there is no way they will say goodbye to the S Pen just because it was a Note feature.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:22 1

24. lifthyper (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Dec 2012)


If samsung use a pen in s4 ,then there will not be any difference between note and s4, and note series is known for its pen feature.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:26 1

26. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


But may be thats what they are aiming for, to just merge both devices and make it one strong competitive phone.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:45

30. Valdomero (Posts: 178; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


Perhaps, but that would affect the note 3 somehow, I don't believe Samsung will stop making a note 3 since these phones are very popular.

If they do put an S Pen with the S4, it doesn't mean the S series will merge with the Note series. I've always seen the S series as a multimedia/all-around super phone, and the Note series as a business phablet.

I still can't figure out why Samsung is making their high-end phones bigger and bigger...

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:12 2

34. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


Agree, S series was perfect at 4.8 max. No need to make it 5.0 which falls under Note (Note1 being 5.0).

And I work in a retail store so Its always hard to explain what basic differences are between S and Note series to common consumer and now with S4 at 5.0 and Note 2 at 5.5 it will even be more challenging.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 11:09 1

53. mxb545 (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Dec 2012)


Like I said before, I have no problem with them making the note 3 bigger, note users already have shown they will buy a bigger phone (I guess s3 users have as well) but I think its a mistake making gs4 larger

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 18:37

95. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


Yes, we all can agree on bigger Notes; but Samsung should keep S series at or below 4.8

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:41 1

28. HTCOE (Posts: 632; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)


if it has an s-pen i will definitely go with the next Google neXus by Moto

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:47

31. JVino (Posts: 5; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


While some people might like the idea of using the s-pen on a smaller screen, I think in the long run this will hurt Samsung a little with the people that follow the Galaxy line more than the Note line.

posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:10 1

33. ckoch125 (Posts: 192; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I think it makes sense, I think samsung wants to unify their high end galaxy series and the note series and if rumors are true about it using a 5" display the s pen functionality makes perfect sense. That way they can enhance it even further so that it works even better on the note and maybe tie it into more apps

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