Samsung Galaxy S IV to launch in April with S Pen functionality?
0. phoneArena 28 Dec 2012, 07:42 posted on
Here is a juicy rumor fresh out of Korea - the Samsung Galaxy S IV might be the first handset in the series to launch with an S Pen and the accompanying functionality…
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14. Justme2018 (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
No Pen and get rid of the home button! Had the Galaxy Nexus, loved the on screen buttons! Substantially better performance with the on screen buttons. 5" is to big of a display for a phone, the feel of the smaller Galaxy Nexus is more comfortable then 4.8" G III. I have both.
15. uneedhelp (Posts: 19; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
AMOLED DISPLAY AGAIN?????????????? THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!
25. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
surely you didn't hold out hopes that they wouldn't use their own displays... xD
37. Captain_Doug (Posts: 735; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I see the potential for Amoled to be good, but it isn't right now. Unless you plan on keeping your device for a short amount of time.
104. Captain_Doug (Posts: 735; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Burn in, over saturation, power consumption when displaying white. For me, the biggest annoyance is the over saturation. Makes things look cartoonish. Anyway, the aforementioned issues really aren't that bad because you can (mostly) correct the colors, you can get darker themes for you phone and burn in sounds pretty rare. If they can fix those problems, Amoled is thinner, it can display more of the color spectrum and has better contrast. I just wish those basics were dealt with.
105. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3657; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Burn in is actually very rare. I know about 10 people who have Amoled displays on their phones, me included, and I have neither heard or experienced that. Even someone who has had his old Fascinate since day 1 on Verizon hasn't experienced any issues.
As for power consumption, most of the time when manufacturers use Amoled displays, they make their UI darker to not only compliment the display, but also use less battery.
I can see where you're coming from with the saturation, but a lot of people find that to be Amoled's key feature, they love the vibrancy of it. Some people don't enjoy it though. Personally, it gives me headaches, which makes owning a GS2 tough, but I'll be switching over to the Nexus 4 soon.
106. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Yeah burn in is pretty rare, and you can fix it with a simple app running overnight.
Power consumption during white reproduction.. well it didn't stopped S3 from beating many SLCD phones in browsing tests.
Over saturation and contrast are a strain on the eye if you put the screen on high brightness, but the thing is, you don't have to do that.
I mostly have filter on my screen when browsing.
Besides that, it's not more strain than the LCD, in my experience.
Watching a full length movie feels the same as on the LCD
Last but not least, you can CHANGE THE SCREEN MODE on the S3.
Picking a natural mode gives you a LCD like effect and removes the saturation.
114. Captain_Doug (Posts: 735; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Thanks for answering in such a civil way. I agree that power consumption is much more of a technicality than a real-world issue. Although a lot of phones don't have the ability to change between color modes. Something else I didn't bring up is pentile. Not really an amoled problem because they don't have to arrange the pixels like that but they do 99% of the time. Amoled can't beat LCD when it comes to defined text and icons.
119. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Civil way as opposed to my usual what? Haha.
Anyway you're right about pen tile.. I can actually distinguish the pixels on S3.
But it really isn't much of a problem even on 306ppi, and the sub pixel arrangement has some specific rendering taking place compared to RGB.
So really thin lines look bad in comparison, but other objects are somewhat compensated regarding the details.
Besides, on 440ppi none of this will matter, even if it's still pen tile.
It will look tack sharp
120. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
..Oh I actually missed to mention my biggest gripe with the S3 ' screen!
It's the black clipping, i.e. inability to reproduce full gray scale.
It really sucks with dark scenes!
But it's a software issue that with a promised fix underway. Note 2 doesn't have it
122. Captain_Doug (Posts: 735; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
No, I was just expecting normal internet bashing. I didn't exactly set the mood well.
I agree that once you get to a certain PPI, pentile won't matter. However I don't think we're there yet. That was kind of my original point was that amoled isn't that bad but they do have some pretty major issues that could be easily fixed.
108. pkiran1996 (Posts: 160; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Some people actually like vivid over saturated colours. Everyone has a personal preference. When I look at displays my eyes just like to at the more vivid colorful one, like amoled.
123. Captain_Doug (Posts: 735; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Which is why the display settings on the S3 is cool that you can change that but most phones don;t.
18. Seymur (unregistered)
Not a good idea
19. Valdomero (Posts: 120; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
5-inch screen? how I'm supposed to put it in my pocket when I'll try to steal it?
27. Valdomero (Posts: 120; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
That was a joke actually, I better stick being an engineer rather than a comedian -.-
42. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5645; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
and you're PHONE will always be sooo small and tiny when everyone else have 5" SCREEN.
23. tll84 (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
"Samsung is allegedly looking to unite its Note series with the flagship Galaxy S IV"
Based on that comment alone, of course S IV will come with a S Pen. If they are truly trying to merge the two into one device (correct me if I misunderstood) there is no way they will say goodbye to the S Pen just because it was a Note feature.
24. lifthyper (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Dec 2012)
If samsung use a pen in s4 ,then there will not be any difference between note and s4, and note series is known for its pen feature.
26. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
But may be thats what they are aiming for, to just merge both devices and make it one strong competitive phone.
30. Valdomero (Posts: 120; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
Perhaps, but that would affect the note 3 somehow, I don't believe Samsung will stop making a note 3 since these phones are very popular.
If they do put an S Pen with the S4, it doesn't mean the S series will merge with the Note series. I've always seen the S series as a multimedia/all-around super phone, and the Note series as a business phablet.
I still can't figure out why Samsung is making their high-end phones bigger and bigger...
34. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
Agree, S series was perfect at 4.8 max. No need to make it 5.0 which falls under Note (Note1 being 5.0).
And I work in a retail store so Its always hard to explain what basic differences are between S and Note series to common consumer and now with S4 at 5.0 and Note 2 at 5.5 it will even be more challenging.
53. mxb545 (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Dec 2012)
Like I said before, I have no problem with them making the note 3 bigger, note users already have shown they will buy a bigger phone (I guess s3 users have as well) but I think its a mistake making gs4 larger
95. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
Yes, we all can agree on bigger Notes; but Samsung should keep S series at or below 4.8
28. HTCOE (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
if it has an s-pen i will definitely go with the next Google neXus by Moto
31. JVino (Posts: 5; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
While some people might like the idea of using the s-pen on a smaller screen, I think in the long run this will hurt Samsung a little with the people that follow the Galaxy line more than the Note line.
33. ckoch125 (Posts: 168; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
I think it makes sense, I think samsung wants to unify their high end galaxy series and the note series and if rumors are true about it using a 5" display the s pen functionality makes perfect sense. That way they can enhance it even further so that it works even better on the note and maybe tie it into more apps
35. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)
I know the S Pen is a lot different to a standard plastic stylus, but I had a Nokia 5800 and when I got it I thought it'd be cool having it, but after the first day of playing around with it I never used it again.
However, it's a nice option to have for those who would want to use it and for the people who won't use it, if the size of the device isn't drastically altered just to include the S Pen, does it really matter?
38. dorianb (Posts: 333; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
If it's 5inches please make it an edge-to-edge screen. I would prefer only the Note to have the S-Pen but can live with it. Above all else, keep it pocketable!!!!
47. jmoney62987 (Posts: 31; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
This is why android lacks; it's updates are too close to one another! and way to different! I just got a gs3 (I admit a while after released) and now a radically different S4 is going to be released in a few months or a little more?! I love new tech but they need to remember most sign 2 year contracts! Doing this type of thing harms companies as well. In this regard Apple reigns surpreme. It's items hold great value due to it.
66. jinwons (Posts: 89; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
I doubt it will be released in a few months. Samsung is sticking with one year cycle for GS line. So we are looking at June for release at the earliest. what's wrong with that? Apple broke their one year cycle tradition from 4S, and now it's anyone's guess when their next generation iPhone will come.
73. jmoney62987 (Posts: 31; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
Apple did not break their one year cycle...unless you mean it took LONGER than a year..by all of 2 months. And if Samsung waiting until June and had a new S series come out yearly in June and Note series in the fall and both phones stuck with specific features (size/spen) then I think Samsung would be on to a huge thing. As for nobody knowing what Apple is up to...I hope they don't ruin their yearly cycle/ the idea of knowing when you buy any phone and knowing that for a year your phone won't be replaced by something is very nice and gives consumers safety.
48. ray77 (Posts: 121; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)
love the way sammy is thing using both, it be great !!
51. wreh3 (Posts: 25; Member since: 19 Apr 2010)
I like Samsung innovations and Creativity, but I think there should NOT be Samsung Galaxy IV; I think there where NOTE & NOTE II have to take over.
54. Arshad615 (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)
If Samsung is going to give s-pen then what will be difference between note series and s series........
57. lyndon420 (Posts: 1641; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
So much complaining. Just buy the device that works for you and walk away. So simple people.
58. onlyoneooch (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
The only thing that will bother me about this is the potential increase in price for US carriers.
59. imkyle (Posts: 948; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
I love when Sammy brings new ideas to their phones and tablets, but the S-Pen was special to the Note Series.. Don't take away the originality from that device.
61. android78 (unregistered)
Bad idea samsung, Hope they make that gs4 slimmer, edge to edge, 5 inch AMOLED display. leave the s pen for the note franchise.
64. andydroid (Posts: 13; Member since: 01 Jun 2012)
That would be a perfect phone, I like the Spen but not size of the note.
67. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
It would not be a bad idea to merge NOTE and S series into one common device .. easier for managing upgrades etc and let NOTE be replaced by 7 Inch TAB. Don;t mind if "S Pen" becomes a trademark of all high end Samsung devices. Then Apple lawyers could posibly be rendered jobless :D
74. jmoney62987 (Posts: 31; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
The S-Pen isnt for everyone..and as someone who is OK with it I can say that I think looking at a general audience the S-Pen looks a little too "geeky" still for wide adoption. That being said I think they should stick with two flagships. What they need to do is get rid of the other like 80 Android phones they manufacture and stick with the two series on yearly update cycles and have them both on every carrier. S4-low/mid range/ Note3-high end. Get rid of the plastics/ get some metal, get some class..really show Apple that Samsung can be a luxury item also.
88. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
They can come closer to Nokia quality Plastics if they want to. Nokia's plastic quality aren't bad. My ages old Nokia communicator is plastic but shines like metallic stuff and it still works after 6 heavy falls :)
107. jmoney62987 (Posts: 31; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
I personally wouldn't mind that; I really like the construction of the newer Nokia phones. But because we live in a world where initially everything is compared to an iphone I think they need to begin with adding something equal is quality in the opinion of the masses. Metal. Metal and high end plastic. Metal and glass and high end plastic. As long as metal is involved and they market the device as luxury and not just another android phone lost in the shuffle.
81. TheFlamnSpatula (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
If add a S pen to the GS IV you might as well change the name to "Note mini"
82. kareem (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
Will they use full hd amoled or full hd super amoled
It would be frustrating if it's amoled
I dream of a phone with full hd super amoled plus screen
But it seems difficult for samsung
87. gazmatic (Posts: 502; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
Can someone please explain how and why the note 2 is NOT just a bigger s3? I'm this close to installing the premium features and I have a capacity pen. The note 2 is just bigger, has a larger screen, a bigger battery and a better processor. All of which is possible because its BIGGER. And it comes with a integrated stylus. Please explain the difference without mentioning the larger everything. Please. Illuminate me
91. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 137; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
For you to understand how much difference between the two, you have to play with both. At first I thought their was no major difference until I played with my S3 and my wife's note 2. It just more advance, and if you plan to use it for business or school, the Note 2 will be more user friendly.
89. cncrim (Posts: 419; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Crapppp..... stop S pen feature on small phone, save S pen room for my bigger battery..... better BATTERY please.
96. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
< 3 inch screen windows phone (4x) had stylus. Made by HTC marketed by Imate under Imate brand name called Imate jam. Best part is a Spare stylus used to come as part of package just in case one lost one.
99. scsa852k (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
Not sure if Samsung would be making this move when the sales report for Note II comes out.
It's selling like crazy compared to Note I, and why would they combine their 2 flagship devices that are both outselling any other phones in the market?
two is better than one. Always.
113. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
I agree w/the previous posts that Samsung should keep the Note line & the GS line separate. The Note 2 behaves in different ways than the SIII & also built totally diff. To make these two line of phones that similar you have...well, you have Apple. Keep S-Pen specific to the Note line & do something unique to GS line. Apple sells uniformity, Sammy don't take the same path...
115. Pinkii (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Dec 2012)
Love the GS line & I was extra excited to read the release will be around April cause I'm still stuck with the GS2 & my contact won't be up until July. I am a little disappointed with the bigger size, i just appreciate something i can easily hold in one hand, slide in my back pocket or talk on it without it looking like it's eating my head......but i guess if the features/capabilities are more amazing than the gs3, which I'm sure they will be, and is just as thin then i could overlook the size. Can't wait to see what it does & looks like.
116. solidsnakeduds013 (Posts: 215; Member since: 20 Oct 2010)
This is NOT TRUE! If the Galaxy S line gets S pen then there is no galaxy note. Especially if the screen is going "increase" (Idk how the screen can get any bigger without it being classified as a Note) and as for the 13 megapixel camera.. THAT WIL NOT HAPPEN! Samsung will retweak its camera to take better pictures. I think it will still be 8 megs but more enhanced.
People you need to know how to make sense out of NONSENSE!
(This is my opinion and if you dont like it.... CHEERS!)
118. JustTryHTC (Posts: 1; Member since: 30 Dec 2012)
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