Samsung Galaxy S IV to launch in April with S Pen functionality?

25. KingKurogiii posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:24 0 0

surely you didn't hold out hopes that they wouldn't use their own displays... xD

37. Captain_Doug posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:21 0 1

I see the potential for Amoled to be good, but it isn't right now. Unless you plan on keeping your device for a short amount of time.

100. Berzerk000 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 20:59 0 0

What's not good about Amoled?

104. Captain_Doug posted on 29 Dec 2012, 01:29 0 0

Burn in, over saturation, power consumption when displaying white. For me, the biggest annoyance is the over saturation. Makes things look cartoonish. Anyway, the aforementioned issues really aren't that bad because you can (mostly) correct the colors, you can get darker themes for you phone and burn in sounds pretty rare. If they can fix those problems, Amoled is thinner, it can display more of the color spectrum and has better contrast. I just wish those basics were dealt with.

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105. Berzerk000 posted on 29 Dec 2012, 01:41 1 0

Burn in is actually very rare. I know about 10 people who have Amoled displays on their phones, me included, and I have neither heard or experienced that. Even someone who has had his old Fascinate since day 1 on Verizon hasn't experienced any issues.

As for power consumption, most of the time when manufacturers use Amoled displays, they make their UI darker to not only compliment the display, but also use less battery.

I can see where you're coming from with the saturation, but a lot of people find that to be Amoled's key feature, they love the vibrancy of it. Some people don't enjoy it though. Personally, it gives me headaches, which makes owning a GS2 tough, but I'll be switching over to the Nexus 4 soon.

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106. darac posted on 29 Dec 2012, 02:36 1 0

Yeah burn in is pretty rare, and you can fix it with a simple app running overnight.
Power consumption during white reproduction.. well it didn't stopped S3 from beating many SLCD phones in browsing tests.
Over saturation and contrast are a strain on the eye if you put the screen on high brightness, but the thing is, you don't have to do that.
I mostly have filter on my screen when browsing.
Besides that, it's not more strain than the LCD, in my experience.
Watching a full length movie feels the same as on the LCD

Last but not least, you can CHANGE THE SCREEN MODE on the S3.
Picking a natural mode gives you a LCD like effect and removes the saturation.

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114. Captain_Doug posted on 29 Dec 2012, 22:18 0 0

Thanks for answering in such a civil way. I agree that power consumption is much more of a technicality than a real-world issue. Although a lot of phones don't have the ability to change between color modes. Something else I didn't bring up is pentile. Not really an amoled problem because they don't have to arrange the pixels like that but they do 99% of the time. Amoled can't beat LCD when it comes to defined text and icons.

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119. darac posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:44 0 0

Civil way as opposed to my usual what? Haha.
Anyway you're right about pen tile.. I can actually distinguish the pixels on S3.
But it really isn't much of a problem even on 306ppi, and the sub pixel arrangement has some specific rendering taking place compared to RGB.
So really thin lines look bad in comparison, but other objects are somewhat compensated regarding the details.

Besides, on 440ppi none of this will matter, even if it's still pen tile.
It will look tack sharp

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120. darac posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:48 0 0

..Oh I actually missed to mention my biggest gripe with the S3 ' screen!
It's the black clipping, i.e. inability to reproduce full gray scale.
It really sucks with dark scenes!
But it's a software issue that with a promised fix underway. Note 2 doesn't have it

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122. Captain_Doug posted on 31 Dec 2012, 14:01 0 0

No, I was just expecting normal internet bashing. I didn't exactly set the mood well.
I agree that once you get to a certain PPI, pentile won't matter. However I don't think we're there yet. That was kind of my original point was that amoled isn't that bad but they do have some pretty major issues that could be easily fixed.

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108. pkiran1996 posted on 29 Dec 2012, 12:27 0 0

Some people actually like vivid over saturated colours. Everyone has a personal preference. When I look at displays my eyes just like to at the more vivid colorful one, like amoled.

123. Captain_Doug posted on 31 Dec 2012, 14:02 0 0

Which is why the display settings on the S3 is cool that you can change that but most phones don;t.

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22. nexusalltheway posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:16 3 0

Just don't steal it man, simple.

27. Valdomero posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:34 1 1

That was a joke actually, I better stick being an engineer rather than a comedian -.-

32. nexusalltheway posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:09 1 0

haha cool

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42. InspectorGadget80 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:34 0 0

and you're PHONE will always be sooo small and tiny when everyone else have 5" SCREEN.

26. nexusalltheway posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:26 1 0

But may be thats what they are aiming for, to just merge both devices and make it one strong competitive phone.

30. Valdomero posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:45 0 0

Perhaps, but that would affect the note 3 somehow, I don't believe Samsung will stop making a note 3 since these phones are very popular.

If they do put an S Pen with the S4, it doesn't mean the S series will merge with the Note series. I've always seen the S series as a multimedia/all-around super phone, and the Note series as a business phablet.

I still can't figure out why Samsung is making their high-end phones bigger and bigger...

34. nexusalltheway posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:12 2 0

Agree, S series was perfect at 4.8 max. No need to make it 5.0 which falls under Note (Note1 being 5.0).

And I work in a retail store so Its always hard to explain what basic differences are between S and Note series to common consumer and now with S4 at 5.0 and Note 2 at 5.5 it will even be more challenging.

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53. mxb545 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 11:09 1 0

Like I said before, I have no problem with them making the note 3 bigger, note users already have shown they will buy a bigger phone (I guess s3 users have as well) but I think its a mistake making gs4 larger

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95. nexusalltheway posted on 28 Dec 2012, 18:37 0 0

Yes, we all can agree on bigger Notes; but Samsung should keep S series at or below 4.8

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66. jinwons posted on 28 Dec 2012, 12:46 0 0

I doubt it will be released in a few months. Samsung is sticking with one year cycle for GS line. So we are looking at June for release at the earliest. what's wrong with that? Apple broke their one year cycle tradition from 4S, and now it's anyone's guess when their next generation iPhone will come.

73. jmoney62987 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 13:59 0 0

Apple did not break their one year cycle...unless you mean it took LONGER than a year..by all of 2 months. And if Samsung waiting until June and had a new S series come out yearly in June and Note series in the fall and both phones stuck with specific features (size/spen) then I think Samsung would be on to a huge thing. As for nobody knowing what Apple is up to...I hope they don't ruin their yearly cycle/ the idea of knowing when you buy any phone and knowing that for a year your phone won't be replaced by something is very nice and gives consumers safety.

74. jmoney62987 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 14:02 0 0

The S-Pen isnt for everyone..and as someone who is OK with it I can say that I think looking at a general audience the S-Pen looks a little too "geeky" still for wide adoption. That being said I think they should stick with two flagships. What they need to do is get rid of the other like 80 Android phones they manufacture and stick with the two series on yearly update cycles and have them both on every carrier. S4-low/mid range/ Note3-high end. Get rid of the plastics/ get some metal, get some class..really show Apple that Samsung can be a luxury item also.

88. rusticguy posted on 28 Dec 2012, 17:28 0 0

They can come closer to Nokia quality Plastics if they want to. Nokia's plastic quality aren't bad. My ages old Nokia communicator is plastic but shines like metallic stuff and it still works after 6 heavy falls :)

107. jmoney62987 posted on 29 Dec 2012, 11:17 0 0

I personally wouldn't mind that; I really like the construction of the newer Nokia phones. But because we live in a world where initially everything is compared to an iphone I think they need to begin with adding something equal is quality in the opinion of the masses. Metal. Metal and high end plastic. Metal and glass and high end plastic. As long as metal is involved and they market the device as luxury and not just another android phone lost in the shuffle.

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91. letgomyeggroll posted on 28 Dec 2012, 17:50 0 0

For you to understand how much difference between the two, you have to play with both. At first I thought their was no major difference until I played with my S3 and my wife's note 2. It just more advance, and if you plan to use it for business or school, the Note 2 will be more user friendly.

96. rusticguy posted on 28 Dec 2012, 18:42 0 0

< 3 inch screen windows phone (4x) had stylus. Made by HTC marketed by Imate under Imate brand name called Imate jam. Best part is a Spare stylus used to come as part of package just in case one lost one.