Samsung Galaxy S IV to be impressive performer, but made out of plastic?
0. phoneArena 04 Mar 2013, 03:02 posted on
The Samsung Galaxy S IV puzzle is getting solved each day by the rumor and today’s part is about the materials it is made of…
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1. dilse (Posts: 25; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
4.99=5 inch..people want a phone not a phablet sammy....
11. tech2 (Posts: 2573; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
phablet is 5.5 inch with a stylus and almost all companies are going for 5 inch screen this year.
59. PhoenixWright (Posts: 99; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Isn't 5 inches the boundary for the phablet category?
Plus a Phablet doesn't necessarily need a stylus.
108. Dr.Phil (Posts: 952; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I have stated this before when someone asked the same question: a phablet is defined as a device BETWEEN (but not including) 5 inches and 7 inches. This means a phone with a screen size anywhere between 5.1-6.9 inches is defined as a phablet (at least for right now).
117. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 281; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
How is the term phablet even relevant? The only thing that's relevant is how big people perceive the phone to be.
141. PhoenixWright (Posts: 99; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Objection! I just stated boundary, I didn't say 5 was already a Phablet.
123. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
so the OG Note was not a Phablet? :p
138. haroonazeem638 (Posts: 130; Member since: 29 Mar 2011)
The OG Note was a Phablet. It had a 5.3 inch display.
27. a1000smiles4u (Posts: 84; Member since: 24 Apr 2012)
Once you use it.... Every other device with smaller size looks like a toy.
But then thr r ppl who won't stop complaining
55. clark (Posts: 51; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)
its just you who wants a phone with smaller screen not us.
66. shadez10 (Posts: 408; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
maybe in the future you would want a 21" phone...
good luck with your pocket... xD
70. takay0 (Posts: 144; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)
I i want a smaller screen too! 5 inch its just too nig for comfortable use! if you are in bed/wanna use with 1 hand.. its too big! 4.5 its the biggest screen that you can use and still be comfortable!
84. jan25 (Posts: 427; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
I think 4.7 inch is ideal, but 5 inch display with minimum bezel wont be a deal breaker.
103. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6804; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
No one wants a 4" phone. U know who im talkn bout ;)
109. Taters (Posts: 3655; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The biggest phone ever is the Lumia 920 and that only has a 4.5 inch screen. Also the Xperia ZL has a 5 inch screen and it is smaller than most 2012 flagships of varying screen sizes, including the 4.8 GS3, 4.7 One X. etc.
Also, the LG Optimus G measurements make it sound tiny but it actually feels huge compared to the GS3 because of the perfect blocky rectangle shape. So stop judging phone size on only one criteria. There are a lot of variables that go into it.
116. Nokianhero (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 04 Mar 2013)
Who wants to buy someting from samsung. Nokia has the best phones, fastest cpus and operating system
130. hiBreed (Posts: 90; Member since: 29 May 2012)
Lol, as much as i love nokia and their premium devices, i dont think u should write another manufacturer off, even huawei(say who are we) deserves a chance with their latest 'soldiers'
132. _PHug_ (Posts: 399; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
Nokia fell off after the N95.
They are done, toss them in the river along with Blackberry, Windows phones and Palm
133. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
You poor soul working over their at Nokia must be pretty lonely. It's a reflection of Nokia and it's pitiful sales and Marketing share in 2012. Get off those drugs your smoking Samsung sold 213 million smartphones in 2012. 40% market share proves enough.
129. hiBreed (Posts: 90; Member since: 29 May 2012)
Whats with all the thumb downs? The dude is right, just cause samsung is doing it doesnt make it good. I love the note series, but when i want a phone, it actually means i want a phone, when i want a bridge (phone+tablet) i'll get the note okay!
134. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Another lost soul. What's this world coming too.
139. scsa852k (Posts: 310; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
Well, get used to it.
There will be tons of 5 inch Full HD Quadcore phones thrown at our faces this year.
2. dil2abu (Posts: 201; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Samsung don't know to make a Premium Phone..
Learn it from Sony..
28. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
samsung can make use of other materials over plastic for their phones. but will mostly not do so, they will repeat their builds until they have to change and right now plastic with bits of metal is fine
5. tech2 (Posts: 2573; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
premium phone is judged by what is inside not by its body. If sammy could make it more durable then who cares its plastic. BTW it might be polycarbonate which is the same material used by Nokia and few other manufacturers.
and whats the point to have a nicely designed phone but when u turn it on you have to look at outdated specs and TFT screen ?
10. naveenstuns (Posts: 172; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
"premium phone is judged by what is inside not by its body"
are you kidding
tell me one advantage you have in galaxy s4 comparing with galaxy s3 other than display.You can play all the apps in playstore with s3 then what is the need for better processors and spending more for that.
17. tech2 (Posts: 2573; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
If you can read my comment, I am not comparing S4 with S3 its with Sony and Nokia trolls. read the whole comment first before commenting
20. naveenstuns (Posts: 172; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
all apps u mentions are available on s3 then why s4?????
25. tech2 (Posts: 2573; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Dude, WTF ! are a stupid bat ! Read my whole comment first !
I never mentioned S3 or compared with S3. I am comparing S4 with Nokia and Sony, thick headed !
64. nasznjoka (Posts: 369; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
yeah man whats inside is what judges the premium phone. a phone with 'SMART FEATURES' to differentiate you from fellows' phones. IF ITS BY OUTSIDE LOOK sammy know that after a day or two YOU GON BUY A PLASTIC COVER FOR YOUR PHONE THEN HIDDING YOUR PREMIUM LOOKS BY 'cheap' PLASTIC.
140. juanyunis (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
That's a good point of view. The first thing i did for Galaxy Note II was, to buy a cover from elago for 10 bucks and the funny part is that now the phone feels more premium because the material used by elago is very good. So in the end you are right.
13. clark (Posts: 51; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)
I agree on you, it should be judged by specs not on body. What is the use of polycarbonate or aluminum body if the specs and features are crap? Watta waste.
106. Eonnaydra (Posts: 210; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
On specs?On features ?You are oficially an idiot!
Where is the innovation?A octo core which has the same speed as a dual core?13 Mpx camera from Sony?a plastic body?a 5 inch display which cannot fit my pocket?The industry is sleeping.
I don't need specs,I need innovation.Specs are useless without software optimisation.
111. ashisharbola (Posts: 62; Member since: 20 Oct 2012)
They r not making pH for u....ur not the only buyer....if u don't like it buy something else
68. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
your comment is so absurd you should feel sad.
Seriously? so premium now is based on the specs and not the body? you can make a super spec'd device but you can't always make it as premium as others.
Premium doesn't mean specs alone. It's a part of being premium but there are things to consider like build quality, materials used and design.
You can always use same material like what nokia used, but you can never say that it would be a premium product. You can use aluminum, but can still be look crappy if the design sucks. You can use polycarbonate plastic and great design, but with lack of build quality, it's nothing more like the chinese made products.
if you would want to comment such thing, you should not put yourself on a place where you favor a company.
All i can say is that samsung puts the best specs there is on a phone but the build quality of their products is not that impressive.
76. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Agree.. It has to look, feel, and work as a premium device should. The WOW factor starts on the outside.
80. tech2 (Posts: 2573; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
You need to understand that it was a reply to an earlier comment. So you should read the earlier comment first before calling me sad.
If you'd read that you would know I am saying is that if there is a TFT screen and u cant play all apps then whats the point of being a premium handset ? Ofcourse, everyone needs a phone with 'premium' finish but if it has less functions, is it worth it ?
Moreover, design is subjective, whereas material isnt, thats why I pointed out that its made out of polycarbonate and durability.
Put some thought when posting a comment next time !
92. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
I agree with you in the part where functionality should be also a factor to consider for a phone to be categorized as premium. But saying that "premium phone is judged by what is inside not by its body" makes me nod. That's what I'm pointing out here.
There are a lot of factors to consider. Not the specs alone. We could categorize something premium in papers, but we should also consider performance.
Also, do you think you could consider a phone with a super ridiculous design? I guess not. It comes hand in hand. I know we have personal preference when it comes to design, but it should be considered.
The part where you told that "u can't play all apps", I don't get it. So you're saying that if an ecosystem lacks apps, it can't be considered premium? I guess not. As long as the functionality and performance satisfies most consumer, it's enough.
110. Taters (Posts: 3655; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
LOL man people are stupid. First, yes premium is based on specs as well. BMW and Mercedes would not be premium cars if they had crappy engines, which are the equivalent of specs. You know, 500 horse power is a spec and that is basically what makes it premium.
Pricing at a premium also makes a product premium.
There is a lot that goes into and yes, some of it is subjective, but specs are not. It absolutely has to have the specifications to make it premium. The outside appearance less so since premium pre washed jeans with holes all over the place are like $500 and are considered premium.
That is besides the point though, regardless of how much of a Samsung hater you are, high end Samsung phones are premium. They use premium manufacturing processes using premium parts which include fast memory, ripping engine, big nice batteries.
Just because morons like you say that ooh cheap plastic, that isn't even cheap plastic(could be expensive for all we know), counters all the other premium elements it doesn't make it true.
YOU DO NOT decide what is premium or not, society does.
142. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
seriously man, you bashed all the way without comprehending my comment.
"Premium doesn't mean specs alone. It's a part of being premium but there are things to consider like build quality, materials used and design."
where's the part that i said that premium devices don't need to be high spec'd?
I'm not a hater. I love samsung. got a note 2 here. I can say that it's premium for the design and performance I experienced was superb. But it lacks one thing, having the best build quality. It has like just "acceptable".
you called me a moron without understanding what I said? Seriously? Stop being a fan boy for once before leaving such comment.
Please read again my comment. You're missing my point. There are a lot of things to consider, not specs alone.
93. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 166; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Nothing is ever judged by what's inside. High specs make it a high specced device, not premium. Mercedes is a premium / luxury brand. They can put a 800cc Fiat Panda engine and still sell the car as premium quality. Put your plasticky looking Samsung toy next to an iPhone or Nokia on a table and see which looks more premium and gets more eyeballs.
102. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
So if they came out with a device with all of the specs of a G1 or original iphone, but the body was made out of titanium and the screen out of bullet resistant glass, it would be a premium device?
A premium device should have it all, specs and hardware. But this whole anything plastic is bad, anything metal is good is getting ridiculous. Metal feels stronger and more sturdy, but in a fall shock absorption would be worse. By that I mean the force of the shock would be transferred to a greater degree to the mainboard and the screen. And by the way, not all plastics are cheap. Go check out "unbreakable" outlet covers, they'll bend and flex all day long but won't crack or break. Now granted they don't feel like platinum, but they'd be a helluva lot more durable than anything we have now.
But it seems to be even less about durability, but about show off points. When you can say to people "my phone is made out of glass" you feel better about it. We've seen how glass phones hold up (iphones 4/s, nexus 4). While they look cool to some, they'll never be as durable as a metal or even a plastic bodied phone, but they have the cool factor and the "sense" of being premium.
112. Taters (Posts: 3655; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You couldn't be more wrong. No one is going to buy an SL500 if the engine sucks.
127. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Exactly. If Mercedes actually used a Fiat engine, there is not a soul other than blindly loyal Mercedes fans who would call it "premium". Case in point, the Cadillac Catera. They used a motor from a lower brand, I believe Saturn. It was a monumental failure.
I mean seriously, would anyone call a Sony TV with a metal case but with 1st gen lcd tech and a resolution of 480x320 "premium"? That's why, to me anyway, none of these phones are what I'd call "premium". Everyone is lacking one thing that would make it so. Samsung- build quality, HTC-battery, LG- all of the above, Apple-limited customization, etc. All of them always leave something out so we'll want to buy the next model.
135. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
You are 100 % correct on this one. Clearly 213 million smartphones sold in 2012 tells the total story here. 40% market share tells the story also Samsung has nothing to prove to anyone. People who purchase Samsung products understand exact what they are getting. They also know they have industry leading device with top of the line software implementation and industry leading feature solutions that NEVER WILL BE MATCHED. Sony is pitiful in the android space matter of fact Nokia is just as useless they are both pretty comical.
22. dil2abu (Posts: 201; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
The Build Quality, Build Material, Unique Design
Which makes the phone fell premium when u Hold it.. Rich feel for the money u spend..
Xperia P, Ion & Z fo eg..
31. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
It could feel like a million bucks, but if whatever phone you have doesn't offer a great user experience, it wouldn't matter how it feels.
37. dil2abu (Posts: 201; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I have used Xperia P & Ion.. It worth every single rupee I spent on it.. And no doubt with Xperia Z..
These are Premium and Enuf Powerful..
54. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
Excuse me. But please elaborate, with proper grammar so we can understand you, where great user experience directly translates to having "enuf powerful"?
TouchWiz (at least the Nature UX version) has actually been a pleasure for me to use.
60. MrJerry (Posts: 399; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Sorry those might have premiun feel for first grip but inside is full of s**t
Im not even talking about its inside components
You dont even need to know them
All you need is to play with them for like an hour and compare them with GS3. Then you will realize how s**tty sony phone is...
I got this conclusion after I played Xperia Z vs, the latest sony shiny stuff and now I know why sony is almost on the verge of bankruptcy;
"Dont make smartphones for your freaks"
"Make them for normal users"
136. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Sony's standing in the android community is a total JOKE. Stick to Sony Play station and leave smartphones to the big dogs. Sony smartphones are garbage especially software wise. They NEVER UPDATE any handsets and are basically a total laughing stock.
83. Oxygen (Posts: 82; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
So true mate!
I made the switch from the "premium" Xperia S to the S3 since the user experience on the Xperia was plain, boring and horrible. No optimization, boring ui and it lagged often. My gf is happy with it though, since she's not a heavy user and because it's stylish and have a "premium" design.
94. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 166; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
That's still called premium. Vertu used Nokia's S40, and yet they were premium quality phones costing >1000 euros.
47. MrJerry (Posts: 399; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Please dont take your personal preference as PREMIUM
53. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
but sony has no idea about how to make poweful phones
62. VJo003 (Posts: 339; Member since: 11 Mar 2012)
So as per you the physical appearance is a factor that supersedes the performance of the device.
As long a it's made of metal all is well.