Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos
0. phoneArena 20 Feb 2013, 07:11 posted on
Exynos 5 Octa or other ARM Cortex-A15 Exynos chips from Samsung might have proved a tough nut to crack in terms of thermal envelope and power consumption when placed into a handset, which has prompted Samsung to use a Snapdragon chipset in the upcoming Galaxy S IV flagship, claims Korean media publication...
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18. nikenturd (unregistered)
.I think Samsung chickened out with Qualcom's stellar benchmarks...besides they are too scared to be left out....
44. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Compared to old A9, sure.
But if you think that 1.7ghz Krait is faster than 1.8 ghz A15, then you are clueless
116. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Of course it isn't faster, but then again it has battery life.
91. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
They have always had a great relationship with Qualcomm and they have always maintained that the mobile, display, and Exynos divisions are separate(how separate they are is debatable but that is what they claim). I don't see the big deal here.
If it is cheaper to mass buy from Qualcomm, which it should be since Apple rips off their partners quite well, then it's perfectly fine.
11. papss (unregistered)
Lol this would be a huge blow to SS if this is true
13. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
The 600 is great but I would hope maybe they go 800. Would love them to go for a non plastic design too.
23. adisQ (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Feb 2013)
I believe that the 800 will go in tablets instead, 600 seems to be more than enough powerfull to run phones nicely. 800 must be massive and more power consuming, based on a fantastic 600 results in smartphone terms.
37. MistB (Posts: 553; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Nope, 800 is destined for super phones or phablets, at the end of the day the greater medium of sales comes from phones besides high end tablets
70. b1acktiger (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 May 2012)
800 is not yet in mass production, It might be available in Q2 last commercially.
99. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Who knows when the sgs4 will be in production.
118. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
It will be on sale by June. That means it's too late.
117. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
800 is still far out and non-plastic means serious RF challenges.
19. pyradark (Posts: 748; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
hahaha!!! show me your octa dream core sammy!!! hahahaha
20. nikenturd (unregistered)
Its no big deal really ...give me stellar performance and Id buy it in a heartbeat...probably their current crop Exynos isnt up to par yet.....This will leave Nvidia picking up some scrap metal again like they did last year lol....poor Nvidia nobody wants them
34. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
If its not in the s4 it will for sure begin the note 3
119. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Everyone always says this, but so far Samsung has always overclocked existing Galaxy S SoC for the Note line and called it a day. Note 1= Exynos 4210. Note 2=Exynos 4410.
24. maccess (Posts: 583; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
stop flaming dude... why have to bring the sony here??
26. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1311; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
thats like bringing a rifle to a machine-gun fight
110. pyradark (Posts: 748; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
its all about bashing each other!! hahahaha
25. ravigill (Posts: 24; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
hey guys i think samsung did this last year also....
27. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1311; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
S600 was not available last year ....they used the dual core s4 instead
69. ravigill (Posts: 24; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
YES UR RIGHT I MEAN WITH DUAL CORE AND QUAD CORE
32. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
They only used s4 in the US for the lte radios but pretty much everywhere else it was exynos based
31. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
I still hope they use there own exynos but if they do use the s600 then that's no problem too...if the s4 don't get the new exynos then for sure the note 3 will..either way I will be pleased regardless which they opt for lol I just want a new phone...let's hope the rumours of unveiling next month is true.
33. PunyPoop (Posts: 714; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Now I know why phone arena is a biased tech site! SAMSUNG ADS ALL OVER!! LOL
38. emadshiny (Posts: 1127; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
i can feel the anxiety in posts of Samboys.
why are you so afraid? Qualqomm chipsets are much better than Exynos ones.
61. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
Qualcomm chipsets are horrible compared to Exynos.
I remember Qualcomm poking fun at Exynos for overheating and being inefficient. Now look at their S4 pro lmao. Brb 2 hour battery life. brb overheating to the point your phone will start cracking. Brb can barely beat exynos in performance even being released months after exynos.
66. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Odd I get 4 1/2 hours on screen time on my Optimus G and throttling never effects real life performance. Only benchmarks. Real life performance is flawless. Get off your high horse buddy the Snapdragon 600 will be a fantastic performer in any device.
93. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
LOL good one. Wait?! I hope you are not being serious here....
41. ahhxd717 (Posts: 317; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
Who cares if they use Qualcomm? People are just used to when Exynos obliterated other chipsets. Now, Qualcomm has brought some awsome processors. The S600 is more than capable of powering the SIV, as it has been shown to be much more powerful than last gen Exynos. If Samsung isn't using its own chip sets, they probs have a good reason. I think they know what they're doing.
45. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
The A15 is not great for battery life. ARM said it them self. A normal 4x core is fine for a tablet because you can have a big battery. It would be dumb for them to go the Exynos in a phone without a 3000 mah battery that have the battery life of a 2100 mah
49. donfem (Posts: 520; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Can we all cease fire and live in peace instead? Whatever we think about the composition of the S4, there will be a reason for the option used. Not everyone will agree with whatever choice used, however, that will not make it less a success just because a few indivduals would have wanted somthing different. Peace
54. oister85 (Posts: 394; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Are all of this new phones going to have same processor specs. ( xperia z, htc one, galaxy 4
56. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
The xperia z has the "older" snapdragon s4 pro. For example in quadrant it gets 8000 while the HTC one with a snapdragon 600 gets 12000.
94. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Pretty much. In 2012 the following phones used the Qualcomm S4.
Galaxy S3 North American
Xperia V and T
HTC One XL and One S
Nokia Lumia 920
The following use the S4 pro
LG Optimus G
Asus Padfone 2
Xiaomi Phone 2
Oppo Find 5
In 2013 I am guessing everyone will use the Qualcomm 600. That is just how the business trend is. Most SD cards are from like two sources. Samsung was making most low to mid range LCD panels at one point and Sony or another company would just use a Samsung panel with Sony firmware. Samsung supplies the memory for most mobile handsets etc.
The Qualcomm 600 is like a plague. Although the North American GS3 performed much better that the rest with the multitasking because the Qualcomm S4 really needed 2gb of ram for ICS and JB. Expect the HTC One to drop the ball on an aspect like that.
58. cR203 (Posts: 185; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
The exynos processor is a solid performer. For that reason i would prefer it in the galaxy s4, but at the same time the snapdragon 600 processor isn't a bad processor either.
63. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Anybody who complains about this either hasnt experienced the performance of a quadcore S4 Pro or is a Samsung fanboy. The real life performance of the Snapdragon 600 will be absolutely flawless.
65. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
"the performance of a quadcore S4 Pro"
Lmao, laughable. I'd rather use Tegra rather than cr@ppy snapdragondildo
"HEY IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME, YOURE A SAMSUNG FANBOY!"
67. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
I own an N7 and no matter the clockspeed or kernel the Tegra does not match the S4 Pro. Keep on trollin though.
64. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Oh wow... now this is a great shock to me...
68. AshishRomea (Posts: 145; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
this just makes me say , Sony Xperia Z will have its base covered.... it already on paper tuffled out the ONE ! as we know Z aint just abt SPECS! ITS A COMPLETE PHONE !
107. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
HTC one even destroyed it :D
how did XZ become a complete phone? when its screen is the worst 1080p screen out there, the camera ddnt perform at the expectation levels, the rectangular design with sharp edges
71. babyk (Posts: 221; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
whatever samsung comes out with both nvidia and snapdragon will beat them just u wait and see they should go with 600 or 800 to avoid a loss
95. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Except the Exynos 5 dual is already at the top of the food chain.
73. jove39 (Posts: 1261; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
can understand problem samsung is facing here...hope they add wolfson audio chip...Qualcomm's audio chip is no match!
74. linas_ltu (Posts: 32; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
After HTC One I am not excited for GS IV at all. What to expect? A little bit better specs than HTC One (but about the same) and many gimicky software stuff. And everything will be put in the same cheap plastic body with a Amoled screen which peace of crap in terms of brightness and natural colour reproduction. I own a GS III since it was released and waiting to come back with HTC.
75. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Samsung doesn't want to do Apple Maps to their device. So good they are taking wise decisions driven by business sense and not driven by childish emotions like Apple did with maps.
77. howardbarrett (Posts: 45; Member since: 11 Jan 2013)
Let's hope the Nexus 5 uses a Snapdragon 600 too.
96. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Nexus 5 should use the 800, unless Google really lost that much money on the Nexus 4, then I can see them using the old by then Qualcomm 600.
79. _Bone_ (Posts: 2106; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Don't know what's all the fuss about: Higher clocked SD600 with higher clocked Adreno 320 will deliver industry leading, bombastic results, plus having the uniformity iN HW will only help developers therefore make OUT app exprience better.
Personally I'd underclock whatever A15ish configuration I get, peak out at 1.1GHz would be more more than enough for all around the board bar a few games I do not care about, and could save 30-50% more battery. Right now I just want Sammy and Googorola to unveil their flagships and then decide which way to go.
80. JWS65 (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
Isn't the low power consumption the point of Exynos Octa? This is just rumor, so everyone should calm down until it's official. I don't think they will use S600 across the board. That will be a huge blow to their semiconductor division that's going to lose Apple AP business soon. It may go into US versions though.
83. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
o no no no no not that scrap dragon, please, only the finest Exynos chips, rest are rubbish, except A6, which are on par. Man I was so happy, but now I won't be buying that crap, ile stick to the S3™®
86. knights4life03 (Posts: 125; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
The new snapdragon is actually really good so u shouldnt call it crap. Have u seen the benchmarks?