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Samsung Galaxy S IV might use Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset across the board instead of Exynos

0. phoneArena 20 Feb 2013, 07:11 posted on

Exynos 5 Octa or other ARM Cortex-A15 Exynos chips from Samsung might have proved a tough nut to crack in terms of thermal envelope and power consumption when placed into a handset, which has prompted Samsung to use a Snapdragon chipset in the upcoming Galaxy S IV flagship, claims Korean media publication...

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posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:14 14

1. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 261; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)


but why?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:22 14

5. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


because exynos octa haven't been on the mass production stage yet.. I guess.

Maybe exynos octa will be used next year for s5 or for the note 3.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:54 8

21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


My guess is the Note III sees Sammy's new chipset. GS IV gets S600.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:39 6

40. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


But man this sucks a lot!
S600 is good...but how will sammy's S4 even sell half the number of S3 if it has no unique factor? The exynos chips though not the main selling point have always attracted customers to Sammy's flagship and the exynos has been showered with praise!

I am waiting on the Note 3 but if Sammy loses advantage at manufacturing which is Sammy's key strengh then I might as well go in for sony or htc as they definitely have better lookin and better built handsets. Note 3 however is a different story and its so much more than a phone

But this could see Sammy's flagship heading the Apple way....Brand value is good but it aint everything and you just cant expect your product to sell if you cant differentiate it from the rest. I have been a Sammy supporter but lets face it Sammy aint takin any prizes in looks or build quality....so again how will the S4 prevail over the competition?

ALso this could be a much needed boon for HTC One and Sony

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:19 2

50. darkkjedii (Posts: 22130; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It will still b a great device bro.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:14 3

59. htc_prep (Posts: 303; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)


i agree with you on the exynos being the differentiation that would set it apart but in usage there wasnt a difference between real usage on the international (exynos) S3 and the US carrier branded (Snapdragon) S3.

I have an S3 as a secondary device and i tested it hand in hand with my brothers S3 that he runs on Three when he hops the pond. they perform the same.

also the Sprint S2 was exynos and it performed the same as AT&T an T'mos version.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:42 5

76. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Majority of smart phone buyers don't know the difference between S600 or Exynos. Power users of course. Ask anyone with a S3, and most of them won't know what chip is in their phone let alone make it their selling point.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:57 4

90. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Samsung build quality is great with the magnesium skeleton they use on all of their high end phones. I never had a single problem with any Galaxy S phone and they are extremely durable and have great heat sink properties. I can't say the same about HTC unfortunately.

Don't let the opinions of haters affect your personal view. Samsung has been manufacturing products for years, I think they know how to design a product more than most.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 23:32 2

129. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Great build it lost to the iPhone 4s in drops test. Blind fanboy at it besthttp://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=K7e9ebi41Wc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DK7e9ebi41Wc

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 18:59 1

108. ckoch125 (Posts: 192; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Didn't slow down the s3 sales. I'd rather have more efficient processor and better battery life. This will handle whatever you throw at it. The octa core is all for marketing.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 22:48 2

126. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Did you see the benchmark scores of the Snapdragon 600? Trust me, you'll be just fine with it in your SGS4.

It's the same damn thing as it was last year with some of you guys.

"OMFG WHAT, US SGS3 WONT HAVE QUADCORE EXYNOS AND WILL HAVE DUAL CORE SNAPDRAGON S4 PROCESSOR?!? OMFGG NOOOO!"

And yet the S4 processor proved to be just as good, it's still a great processor for the average user, I was very pleased with the SGS3 on AT&T and I know several other people with Droid RAZR HD MAXXs and other devices with the S4 processor and they all love their devices as well, never complain about lag or freezing.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:35 5

53. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Then I'll stick with the HTC one

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:54 1

89. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


dont think so, maybe the US version will be Snapdragon, but international will be exynos, idk if octa or not, but definitely exynos !

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 17:55

106. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)


well thats just impossible. cause Note series is the highest end from Samsung in terms of hardware. and thats the same hardware as S series phones from sammy. whatever S IV would use, would be used in Note III but on steroids...

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:24 3

7. imsickwithsmartphone (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I can't BELIEVE THAT!!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 07:38 2

14. Diego! (Posts: 643; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


I agree. I can't believe this. Not at all!

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:57 5

46. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Don't trust such things. They just randomly come up out of nowhere. I will tell you the latest development in terms of Exynos.

In the ISSCC (International Solid-State Circuits Conference) Samsung explained the Octa architecture. The presentation was held just yesterday.

Main highlights are that the A7 is super efficient in terms of power. It takes around just 17% (or just 1/6th) of the energy required by A15. A15 also needs around 4x more die space. It's around 2-3x more powerful than A7. It will be included in next Samsung flagship.

http://i.imgur.com/8w9HJu5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sxw114U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tk1X6xR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1xQT29i.jpg

They also showed first mobile SoC with programmable GPGPU. This takes around 10x less power for various encoding/decoding purposes.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2249399/samsung-develops-a-programmable-mobile-gpu

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:02 1

48. Yeahman (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


"It will be included in next Samsung flagship." They didn't say that, did they? Anyway, I hope that they do put it in the S IV.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:00 2

78. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6768/samsung-details-exynos-5-octa-architecture-power-at-isscc-13

See, what I told you. You don;t need Aannd to tell you everything !!

[big smile...]

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 17:33

105. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


I wanna believe this

Exynos is much cooler than Snapdragon

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:02 2

47. easymomo (Posts: 91; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


According to Sammobile, it's beacause Exynos 5 Octa does not have LTE integrated
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/20/samsung-may-use-snapdragon-600-quad-core-inside-their-galaxy-s-iv/
Only LTE devices will use S600

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:06 1

82. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


If you read properly, you will understand that Samsung intentionally doesn't integrate modem with SoC. According to them it's easier to work on them independently.

If you want to read, here's the white paper:

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/competitive.pdf

BTW, there are 2 different types of SoC in Snapdragon family. APQ and MSM. APQ prefix stands for Application Processor Qualcomm and it refers to an SoC that does not have an integrated modem. MSM line all have integrated Qualcomm modems.

S600 doesn't have integrated LTE.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 12:10 1

85. JWS65 (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


That doesn't make much sense. Samsung already figured out LTE radio for Exynos in Note 2 last year. So why can't Exynos 5 do the same?

Also it's not just US market, virtually all versions of it need to support LTE now. Samsung surely must have developed Exynos 5 with LTE in mind.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 22:39

125. ThirdEye (Posts: 31; Member since: 31 Oct 2012)


Nope. The Note 2 was using Samsung Exynos Quadcore for SOC duties combined with a Qualcomm Gobi MDM 9x15 series.

Samsung had a lucky break in the latter half of 2012 where in Qualcomm was unable to integrate their QC core Krait and baseband into 1 chip. Hence they were using their MDM9x15 separately. So Samsung and NVIDIA had a breather wherein Note II and HTC One X+ used Exynos 4412 and Tegra3 QC chips respectively plus Gobi baseband while all other Qadcore phone competition like Nexus 4, Droid DNA etc used the traditional QC Krait with MDM9x15.

BTW 9x15 can be either MDM9215 - which is GSM + LTE (ATT, TMo) or MDM9615 which is EVDO+GSM+LTE (Sprint, Verizon).

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:31 4

51. robcar (Posts: 110; Member since: 18 Jan 2011)


Because Qualcomm chips performs better than Samsung's Exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:15 3

60. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Qualcomm chipsets are horrible compared to Exynos.

I remember Qualcomm poking fun at Exynos for overheating and being inefficient. Now look at their S4 pro lmao. Brb 2 hour battery life. brb overheating to the point your phone will start cracking. Brb can barely beat exynos in performance even being released months after exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:56 4

55. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Because they finally admitted that the Snapdragons are better than the Exynos.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:17 4

62. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Qualcomm chipsets are horrible compared to Exynos.

I remember Qualcomm poking fun at Exynos for overheating and being inefficient. Now look at their S4 pro lmao. Brb 2 hour battery life. brb overheating to the point your phone will start cracking. Brb can barely beat exynos in performance even being released months after exynos

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:45 2

112. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Your name fits. You're also really defensive about a system on a chip, of all things.

Qualcomm makes a product that dominates smartphones because it's good. If it really had heat and power consumption issues no one would keep using it.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 19:44 1

111. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Read the article. Power consumption and thermal output is too high on the Exynos 5.

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