Samsung Galaxy S III to be modder friendly with Download Mode
0. phoneArena 07 May 2012, 18:42 posted on
One of the big questions that is asked whenever a new Android device is about to be released is just how friendly that device will be to potential mods, hacks, and developer customizations. A new video makes it look like the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S III may be quite friendly indeed...
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48. kanagadeepan (Posts: 710; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
YAY... One must be ridiculously foolish or an extra-ordinary talented geek (intentionally) to be able to brick this device...
49. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Not really. A lot of things could go wrong while updating FW or flashing. Like a cable gets unplugged, or some very anxious fellow forcefully updates with less than 10% battery. Who knows?
A lot of times you can go back to stock. But what if it's not turning on? No buttons are working?
The device has it's safety features but don't rely heavily on it. Too bad if you brick your long awaited SGS3.
51. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Or you could just have a hammer and/or a glass of water.
54. robinrisk (unregistered)
Or be lazy and update your Galaxy S I from 2.2 to 4.0 without changing bootloaders, in which case your phone turns on to display nothing on the screen but random pixels.
The only way to brick those phones is messing with the Bootloader.
4. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
that is only available to geeks.. yes indeed..
7. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's available to anyone who wants it.
8. tedkord (Posts: 5110; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It's available to everyone. Each individual can CHOOSE whether or not to take advantage of it.
9. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
an average consumer would not know you can customized Android.. or install stuff on it... just because is available for everyone doesnt mean everyone takes advantage.. of it
13. tedkord (Posts: 5110; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The point is its available, unlike certain other platforms that do not offer that choice.
Of course, for the average consumer, Android already does all he needs, and since Gingerbread does it smooth as greased butter.
21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that can be said about plenty of things even on Apple's side of the tracks. i'm sure there's a lot of people that don't use their iPhones to their full potential.
42. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
How DARE you mention CHOICE!!!! Have you lost your mind!?!?!?
10. sorcio46 (Posts: 407; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
It's available for everyone, maybe people with chicken's brain that might have problems understanding that Android is OPEN !
12. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I know is open but you mom doesnt know..
14. sorcio46 (Posts: 407; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Yes, when you turn it on, in the agreement everyone can read and accept ASOP terms and conditions :D
17. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
don't know exactly what is your deal.. is well known that only geeks or sons of geeks. root phone... the majority of Android phones are never rooted or customized.. so just take my comment like it is.. if your is rooted good for you...
31. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its not much of a majority. A very large minority actually does root/mod their phones to some extent. A lot more than you might think.
The point is, if you want to do it, its easy. You dont have to be a hacker/modder/experienced person to do it. Download mode is incredibly easy to get to, and thats just the fail safe incase you screw up. I know we have had these conversations before about your DroidX or whatever it was. You should have taken 20 minutes to read and learn from XDA. You would have been surprised about how incredibly easy it can be to mod the phone (depending on which phone you have).
With a samsung, you literally just download an app that says "click to root", you click it.. its rooted. You download clockwork mod from the market for free.. then you are able to install any ROM you want. Does that really sound hard? I bet even you, Gallito, could figure it out. I have my doubts about Taco though.
39. eDiesel (Posts: 141; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
Geek? The only skills you really need is the ability to read and follow directions. After about 3 hours of reading i could root,unlock, install roms, and recover from bricks.... Not much to it.
In 3 hours i became a geek because i could read......
52. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
So you can't read and write galli, mmmm, u need
Common sense. And need to take ESL course?
3. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
So after rooting u can over-clock this to
2.0 cpu speed. browsing rendering page's
will be much better than standard....
47. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
Why the hell do you want to overclock it ?
the s3 is already a very fast device
53. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Power is never enough, It's there use it, that
Extra 35%. Would make a quite big difference,
Just like when u buy a car u can raise the
Engine management unit and get that extra
35% ov torque and Bhp.....
56. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
For example yiu bought a bmw m3 . it has 400hp and you are using it for daily driving , should you spend extra effort to tweak it so that it gain 600-700hp or even 1000hp with that terrible turbo lag ?
6. GeekMovement (Posts: 1519; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
ahh i'm waiting for the states version to be announced. Please come to Sprint soon. I wonder how different the designs will be on the different carriers this time or if it will stay the same as international.
30. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I heard a rumor that its coming first to Sprint...
15. tedkord (Posts: 5110; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
US customers shouldn't get too excited. I guarantee Verizon will strip this out, probably ATT, too.
19. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Download mode has NEVER been removed from Galaxy phones. Download mode has been in EVERY Galaxy S phone.
This is one of the few reasons for why the Galaxy S is even relevant. If there was no download mode in GS3, that would be an enormous disappointment.
23. tedkord (Posts: 5110; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Maybe I'm wrong. Was it on the Fascinate? Is it on the Galaxy Nexus? I would be surprised if Verizon left it on, but I haven't owned any VZW-Samsung androids.
25. corrifa (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
Yeah it is definitely on them, as Hunt3rj2 said it is on all galaxy phones.
28. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
The Galaxy Nexus I'm not as sure, I think it works through fastboot instead of Odin and download mode.
I do know any Galaxy S variants use download mode.
Just did a check, Galaxy Nexus DOES have download mode to be used with Odin.
32. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Download mode is part of what makes a GalaxyS so lovable by the mod community. Its on EVERY SGS model.
Dunno about download mode on a nexus though, as that is not an SGS.
37. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Galaxy Nexus looks like it has DL mode and fastboot, the Nexus S looks like it only has fastboot.
43. tedkord (Posts: 5110; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
My mistake, then. Though I do still find it hard to believe Verizon would allow something that is so useful for rooters to stay.
16. calirocker394 (Posts: 8; Member since: 03 May 2012)
On of the best advantages for being on android.
18. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
You can always trust Samsung to be modder friendly. Woot
20. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Indeed, GS3 should be great with AOKP. Touchwiz looks like it adds a lot of features but I'm not very enamored by the aesthetics.
33. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Im going to give it a solid try before I decide if im going to go to clean ICS. It has a lot of neat stuff about it.. so we'll see. Within a month I'll probably rip it out though.. lol. Since its basically just apps from the looks of it, im sure we will see AOSP ICS Roms with some of the TW5 apps still in it.
22. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
HTC One X price falling to $158 in first week for AT&T. Galaxy S2 is still $150 for T-Mobile. HTC One X is no match to Galaxy S3 with cheap plastic body, no removable battery, no microSD slot and only 16gb internal memory.
26. corrifa (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
Cheap plastic body? And what's so good about the GS3 with its Cortex A9's and un-intuitive TouchWiz? Tell me how you'll like them scratches on the back
34. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
u obviously didnt look at any of the SGS3 show info, did you?
That Cortex A9 spanks the daylights out of the S4 and the T3. Both the S4 and Exynos spank the T3 in video capture (whats with that low FPS stutter on the T3??).
Whats more intuitive than Touchwiz now? Really? Which other UI watches you to figure out what your doing and reacts accordingly without you ever touching the screen? It knows when you are reading something on screen and wont shut off the screen, even if its on a timer. If your texting and want to call, all you have to do is put the thing to your ear without touching the screen, and it will make a call. Tell me how ANY other phone does that.
38. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
The T3/Snapdragon S4's stuttery video capture is likely because of HTC having lower bitrate capture on the phone. Maybe it can be raised with software, but we'll have to see.
40. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Until its fixed, im pointing anyone that thinks the S4/T3 deserves to be in the same league as the 4212 right to that. Day to day things like a small score difference on synthetic bench marks arent a big deal, but a screwy camera is a deal breaker. My phone is my main point and click camera. I dont want to have to turn to my daughter one day and go "you know, this video would have looked nice if i was using something other than my phone". We have long passed the point of that being acceptable.
41. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
The images are fine, just set the sharpness to -2 and possibly set saturation a notch lower, video should be easily fixed. The Sensation has a 20 Mbps video mod out, and the same mod makes the phone save images as uncompressed jpegs.
24. calirocker394 (Posts: 8; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Remixfa you just cant get off samsungs nuts can you...
36. remixfa (Posts: 14060; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
did i say something that was incorrect, or did you just decide to be a pointless tool and add nothing to the conversation but your halitosis?
27. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Yeah, PHONEARENA - download mode has always been around for SAMSUNG ANDROID PHONES. You use it in conjuction with ODIN to get to stock or, or some XDA dev creates their special version of it, with on their ROMs...like it was with the CAPTIVATE as an ODIN program was created with GB bootloaders, necessary for modding.
Recovery mode is used to restore a phone back to factory default, but with the modded ROM intact.
Having modded HTC phones, Moto phones, and Samsung phones, I can attest that it is the easiest to mod.
Please disregard what the dunces of Taco and GallitoKing have to say as pretty much what they say is worthless, or without real experience or knowledge.
46. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Excellent choice Samsung. :)
I guess the SGS3 IS the new superphone after all.. :)
55. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
another reason to get the s3 then and why i stick with samsung as they make modder friendly phones