Samsung Galaxy S II hits the 10 million sold mark with no help from the U.S.
0. phoneArena 25 Sep 2011, 14:25 posted on
The sizzling hot Samsung Galaxy S II has sold 10 million units world-wide one month faster than it took the original Galaxy S to hit that mark; as amazing as that sounds, the 10 million units sold in 6 months does not include the U.S. market...
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1. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
It's just as taco predicted! All of us "Phandroids" are weeping because of the poor sales of the GS2. Only 10 million sold! This must be the biggest flop in cell phone history, huh? Right below the Kin phones. Oh, the agony. Sniggly, remix, Evo...what are we going to do??? Whyyyyyyy????!!!!
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and that doesnt even count a single american sale.
not too shabby for a "flop".. lol
96. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Let's wait till next year then let's add the american sales on what kind of fail our SGS2 is.
115. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Apple will sell that in less then a month... besides the SGSII was been out since June?... wow it doesnt take much to impress you guys... cant believe there still picking on the iphone4 that has been out about a year an a half ago... hmmm just give it a week and see those 10 millions fall within a month... and with no help from any other country... just in the US...
3. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
10 Million is a lot with all of the other android phones that you can pick from an the phone is not cheap an also not sold in USA
14. Dreamep (unregistered)
Actually it is sold in the USA - international unlocked version.
6. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I propose that as a symbolic action of our agony - we go to the nearest Apple store and burn it down. And then laugh all night. :)
10. brant (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
I think the USA can add at least 5 mill to that number... Android growth as whole is just impressive.
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im willing to bet they pass 20 million sold before they discontinue it.. maybe 30.
Not bad for a phone that has 100 other choices with the same OS to compete with. I wonder what it would be if they only had 1 phone..
oh yea, 550k activations a day. woops.. lol
4. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
glad i could be one of those sales :)
one of the best things i could buy :)
11. protozeloz (Posts: 5393; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
as i said android manufacturers seem to be getting better at it, Samsung has learned from some of his past mistakes and developed a better campaign and a much better support for some of its flashgrip devices, hopefully the lead programs helps them update those devices faster and give better support
15. protozeloz (Posts: 5393; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
if HTC blinks for a second they might become second place in the ranks of android manufacturers
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they already are. saleswise, Samsung has been the #1 manufacturer for the better part of a year. They are just about to over take apple as the #1 smartphone maker.
136. Goldeneye (Posts: 407; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
Well not too fast the real test about that great support that your talking about it'll be when how long it'll take Samsung to update all these millions of sold phones to ICS, nice sales but after the sale Samsung is not the best and you all know that, just saying
5. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
Still Rocking my original SGS an still happy Samsung>Apple
81. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Yep, I have my Captivate with 2.3.4 and a ton of free games and other cool crappolla......
7. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
lol taco, where are you? i know this is gonna be hard on you, it got 10 million sales, but... not a single one in the US. Considering many people will get it, i expect that number to only get higher :D
8. edpad90 (Posts: 23; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Getting mine on sunday!!!! I really want to see the number sales in USA once all of them have dropped to their respective carrier.
9. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
10 million with out Any US sales is amazing...to sell that many with all the other great android phones is great just imagine if this was the only high end android phone...the sales would be even more spectacular....no wonder apple want them banned...it all makes sense.
12. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 462; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)
I never understood why ppl care so much about what an item sells. You get no profit from it. If you like the item, then great. Support it. I like apple and Android and I will be getting the gs2 for ATT next week and the next iPhone. I could care less what either sell.
13. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Considering that there are so many highend android device..for the gs2 to reach 10 million is amazing...imagine this was the only available high end android device...it would have sold even more...that's why iPhone reaches such sales each quater because if you want ios you have to get iPhone where as if you want android you can get any number of devices...thats what makes this even more amazing...
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
This is a dumb argument. iPhone competes with android phones just like android phones compete with each other.
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and if there was just 1 android phone, it would be selling 550k devices a day.. more than double what the iphone is activating at.
25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
If there was only one android it wouldnt eve be close to that number that's where your logic is faulty. The reason google is taking the multiple manufacturer approach is that it gives them volume.
I'll give you an example. Let's say Apple started letting other manufacturers use iOS. Don't you think total sales of iOS would go up?
29. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Don't forget, the OG Droid outsold the the iPhone when it hit VZW. So your argument doesn't hold water either.
And if Apple were allowed other manufactures to use iOS, I don't think it would do too well. Simply because it wouldn't be an iPhone. Many people want the status that come with having that Apple logo on their phones.
32. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The original Droid hit the 1 million mark faster than the original iPhone did. So yes, it outdid the original iPhone's numbers.
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So was the original droid the first android phone?
95. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The original Droid was not the first Android phone, but it was the first one that had a significant push as an iPhone killer. Up until then Android did its own thing, and then there was a marketing blitz from Verizon for the Droid. They hadn't put that much effort into marketing a phone since the original Storm.
And the iPhone wasn't the first mobile Apple device, btw. I remember when it came out; Apple was already famous for the iPod line, and had singlehandedly blasted apart the MP3 player market. So by that point Apple already had a lot of visibility, and people expected the iPhone to be pretty kickass as well, considering the features it had compared to a normal run of the mill flip phone of the time. So there was a lot of expectation and hype surrounding it.
Now, on the other hand, even without a media frenzy surrounding it, the G1 racked up 1 million sales in about six months itself. The original Droid sold 1.05 million units in the same amount of days as the original iPhone took to reach 1 million flat. Granted, by then the 3GS had sold 1.6 million in its first week, but the Droid did the job of bringing Android into the spotlight as a great alternate OS to iOS and Blackberry OS.
116. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Sniggly perfect that you brought the Droid up... yes they marketed well the Droid. it sold well .. but where is the Droid brand now?... if verizon wants to sell a phone they put they Droid brand even though is crappy phone like the Droid Charge.. back in 2007 the Droid meant something.. now that they milked it .. Droid means nothing... and hardly sells... so yes it sold more faster than the iphone.. but the iphone is still standing.. where is Droid now?... the mother of al machines..... you are about to meet .. the daddy of all machines.....in a week
124. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Verizon hasn't put the DROID brand on every Android phone they've sold. The Fascinate, Continuum, Citrus, Devour, Ally, and the Optimistic phone they sold (can't recall what they called it right now) never carried the DROID branding. And DROID phones still sell. They just aren't as explosive as the original was.
And we'll see what happens with the iPhone 5.
126. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wow those phone that you mention where are they now in verizon line up.... verizon is milking the Droid brand.. ex. droid prime, droid RAZR, the droid whatever....
130. Sniggly (Posts: 7297; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yeah, because that's kinda the branding they went with. Duh. Why wouldn't they go with a strong brand they've built for almost two years now?
134. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well when you have something good going for you... dont spoiled.. and they are... with the Droid brand... thats why Apple is soo good.. if they make 10 phones a year... having an iphone wouldnt be what it is today...
38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So a phone in 2009 outsold a phone in 2007. Why is this even something you would bring up?
It wasn't the same year.
41. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
the fact remains that it is much harder for an android oem to reach high figures such as the iphone as there is several android oems...now example if the gs2 was the only android device than it would have sold more than it has because there would not be any other handsets with android...if everyother oems also had ios devices than apple may not be reaching such sales by itself as it would be shared by other oem's
47. Mr.phone.guy. (Posts: 13; Member since: 25 Sep 2011)
Right...but there is only one ios manufacture, so your logic is faulty. you cant count a number of phones that were never sold. or vise versa.
51. Mr.phone.guy. (Posts: 13; Member since: 25 Sep 2011)
"Let's say Apple started letting other manufacturers use iOS. Don't you think total sales of iOS would go up?"
The iphone is available all over the world so people have a choice in mobile i.s. and the people have spoken. people like options and people worldwide opt to buy android. maybe if apple would do something to refresh their tired old o.s. and hardware people may choose ios.
55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So if iOS was available on more carriers in more price ranges it wouldn't sell more? Do you hear yourself?
63. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
it may sell more it may not...more oems does not always mean more sales
100. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
No one will buy a handset with iOS on it. The mere reason of people patronizing iOS is because only Apple uses it/
34. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ok, ill take that arguement.
yes, of course sales would go up, as you would have more configurations to choose from. Would it go up to android levels? maybe.. maybe not. Having a dozen devices isnt helping out WP7, Bada, blackberry, or any other OS that isnt Android at this moment in time.
On the flip side, more configurations and manufacturers means less control by apple and more bugs. Then you lose that tight grip apple has on the phone which makes it so easy to run so smoothly. You then run into resolution, app, part incompatibilities. Then you will be just like every other OS that has multiple phones and configurations.
And if its the same as every other phone as far as random bugs, then why would people choose it over android unless they are just apple fans?
If i had to choose between 2 phones, both with the same occurence of random issues, why would I choose the one with less features, power, smaller camera, ect??
So now that I think about it.. no, unless apple personally manufactured every iteration of the phone out there and make only slide modifications in them (which would make it pointless to do to begin with), i think that move would hurt apple more than help it. it sells phones on a reputation of ease of use, percieved quality, and reliability. It gets those things by making just 1 or 2 phones, not a dozen, and tightly controlling the process.
take away its super smoothness and percieved quality and what do u have left?
36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Besides all the what ifs apple would sell more anyway you look at it. If android had one phone only it would come no where near it's current sales numbers. Especially considering all the low end cheap androids being sold.
Besides all the issues you listed the smoothness of iOS would stay along with it's great functionality and app store so it would still be a great smartphone OS.
44. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
You try to split so many hairs in what should be a simple debate it's pathetic. Here is what has been documented; in 74 days Apple sold 1 Million iPhones. In the same amount of time, Motorola sold 1.05 Million Droids, period! That number is higher no matter what year each was made. You said a single Android couldn't sale more then the iPhone. And that just isn't true.
53. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
How many phones did Apple sell in 2009 when the 3GS launched? It was over 1 million opening 3 days.
Moto droid wasn't the first android phone. Also genius how much was iPhone selling for in 2007 and how much was droid? What percent of people had smartphones in 2009 compared to 2007?
It wasn't the same market.
Here's your logic. iPhone outsold the original cell phone that was launched so it wins.
99. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Excuses, excuses! You were proven wrong, for like the eight MILLIONTH time now. Do you realize you're disputing MATH!?M Simple addition! It was the first Motorola Droid. Your always saying how the iPhone is just one phone, so keep it simple. Compare phone to and man up and admit when you're wrong!
117. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
whay are you only bring in up day 74.. sales continued right?... so overall I after day 74, day 80 a year..etc.. the og iphone outsold the og droid... it sold faster than the iphone but doesnt mean it sold more than the iphone i am surprised Sniggly which is good at number.. ( only when in favors I guess) hasnt seen that.... but people realized the Droid brand is pathethic compare to the quality of Apple...
118. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and like always, your an idiot with nothing to add to the conversation. thanks for remaining true to yourself, gallito... lol
132. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
@ gallitoking. The 74 days is how long it took for the OG iPhone to sell one million units. So what it looks like they were doing was comparing that first milestone marker of one million units. I believe it would have sold even more if the Droid Eris had not been released at the same time, but hey maybe not. Then the Droid's momentum was stopped a few months later with the release of the Droid Incredible. Which could be drawback of so many Droids hitting the market, but it's all worth it to me.
135. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
thank you.. for that answer... WEM,,,
138. Whateverman (Posts: 3242; Member since: 17 May 2009)
How can you not like this guy?! He reps hard for the iPhone, but hey I do for Android, so ya can't hold that against him.
139. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
because while we do disagree sometimes, i respect you. gallito is a frikking idiot of the highest caliber. I dont hold his love for iOS against, him, i hold his stupidity against him. That and he tries to act superior somehow yet he doesnt even own an iphone.. lol
108. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
that was a disingenuous statement.
the top android phones are almost all high end phones except for the Optimus, but that phone is availible on every carrier in the world for free to cheap.
Everything else on the list is droids, galaxys, evos and the like.
If Android had just 1 super spec'ed phone a year that had tight google controls, it would probably sell just as much as it does now. Heck, take 20% off the sales, and you STILL have almost DOUBLE what the iphone does.
Why? Because you would be ERASING every fake complaint that you can think of? Update lag? gone. Splintering? Gone. Force closes due to app incompatibility? Gone. Google's constantly adding new features? In turbo mode.
You would give it every advantage that the iphone has, and yet keep all the features that android has. Again, if that were the case and they were on even footing, why would anyone choose iOS over Android for the same money?
48. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
All i am saying is that if the sgs2 was the only android phone you dont know if it would sell 550k per year by itself
39. Leodrade (Posts: 87; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
what he is trying to say is that today when you decide to buy a high-end smartphone one of the first things you will decide is which OS your smartphone will have, therefore if you choose iOS you only have one option (two if consider the 3GS as high-end) in the other hand if you choose Android you will have at least 10 options, and all of these compete with each other
42. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
thats what we trying to say taco...where saying if from now on if the there was only a single high end android device ie gs2, then it would be selling alot more as there would not be sensation,bionic,evo 3d,photon etc to take sales away from it.
54. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
People don't choose OS they choose phone.
How can you say all these phones don't compete with iPhone. There's not an android market and an iPhone market. There's a smartphone market.
64. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
of course they compete with iphone,wp7,bb etc but unlike bb and ios,android and wp7 manufactures are competing within there own market so if ever a android or wp7 oem achieve sales of this calibre it is amazing...the android market consist of htc,motorola,samsung etc ios markets consist of apple...the smartphone market consist of samsung,htc,apple,motorola etc