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Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket benchmark tests

0. phoneArena 04 Nov 2011, 15:59 posted on

Before running any benchmark tests, our mind tells us that it’ll probably be slightly below the level of its Exynos equipped counterpart. Rather, we’re pleased to find it performing on the same level, since we’ve able to get scores between 2,787 and 3,636...

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posted on 04 Nov 2011, 20:20

47. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


No, dude, I totally figured that since the sgsII's benchmarks came out, I just never wanted to argue with anyone lol...

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 20:48

50. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


Ikr...

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 23:00 2

53. vader11 (Posts: 5; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


I dont know how to post pics but here's the results:
GSII:
Total: 3969
CPU: 6786
Mem: 2970
I/O: 8621
2D: 407
3D: 1059
Sensation XE:
Total: 2720
CPU: 7112
Mem: 2231
I/O: 2993
2D: 327
3D: 935
Also note that the scores of the GS2 are very unstable with ~2500-3900, while the XE are quite stable with ~2500-2800

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 01:42 1

57. Forsaken77 (Posts: 553; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)


C'mon man... are you serious? You still cannot accept that the phone and processor are much better than you thought? You're provided with PROOF and you're still making excuses. "Samsung faked it." Ok, so they would fake this benchmark to look on par with the Exynos but not fake the Exynos to look even more powerful? ACCEPT IT... IT'S A GOOD PHONE! As for your HTC comparisson, maybe it's not just the processor. Maybe it's the whole package, the way all the components interact with the processor. Maybe Samsung knows how to squeeze more juice out of it then HTC. Maybe Qualcomm stepped up their game. Whatever the reason.... you bash the phone/processor and even when you're provided with proof you cry conspiracy. Think about what you're saying and how it sounds.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 04:05 2

59. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


concidering i provided an educated opinion, proof to back up my claims and worries, and people that know about chips agree with me that its probably messed with... id say I'd sound like an individual that has done his homework and has a valid concern.... not someone who is screaming it must be true on a bunch of "maybes".

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 06:02 1

62. buggerrer (Posts: 306; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


where do you read that ICS supports dual core ? I didn't hear them saying anything about it at the conference.


and SGSII is optimized by Samsung software engineers to use the dual cores .. maybe not as it should be .. but the dual core in GSII are in use

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 07:34

63. KiretoX (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Nov 2011)


Are you entirely sure that the IO result comes ONLY from the CPU? Well, what really differs in OCZ Vertex 3 and V3 Max IOPS is the MEMORY (being synchronous vs. asynchronous), not the CPU. And likely firmware optimisation. And the firmware between HDDs for Servers and others. So more and better ram - more IPS. It's very likely that Samsung knows better than HTC how to use memory...

In truth I've thinking about the same issue - that Samsung could have manipulated the score, but if that was the case someone would have been done enough research @ XDA to make some noise. After all most of the androids is open source, aside of some hw drivers.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 12:57

66. shayan (Posts: 159; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


dont be silly. samsung can not do that! I am not saying they wont do it because its moraly wrong, Im saying they can NOT do that.
the benchmark is higher because same SoC dosent mean same performance. even the same exact hardware doesent mean same performance. and benchmark scores depend on many things.
a dual chanel ram does make a huge diffrence in cpu performance.
in computers, even a bump in gpu clock can make cpu more functional.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 13:34

67. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


The I/O test itself is a CPU test that (and i explained this in another post) basically measures how fast it can come up with answers to an equation... like say, the first 500 digits to PI. Since its basically a FLOP test (how fast the internal "on/ off switches" can move) Im not sure if its affected by RAM or not. the I/O is a measure of MFLOPS on the cell phone scale.. Super computers go to PetaFLOPS and beyond, just as a reference.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 13:38

68. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Dual Core optimization was the first thing we ever learned about ICS. Its built off of Honeycomb, which itself is dual core optimized (just not done well..lol). At the conference they hit many of the OS highlights and didnt get into a lot of the geekery. There is an article from Michael from a week or 2 ago talking about all the ICS stuff that they didnt mention during the conference.

SGS2 can not be optimized by samsung to use dual core in the android OS unless the andriod OS allows it by having system drivers to run it. Which as of right now, no android OS other than honeycomb and ICS has that feature. Its optimized for 3D performance, battery, and a billion other things, but they can not force Android itself to be dual core optimized until Google puts that feature into android... which they are with ICS.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 14:45

70. buggerrer (Posts: 306; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


i'll stop here .. just wanna anything prove that ICS support multi-cores .. something official or any one report that ICS SDK or kernel do support cores

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 15:25

71. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


at work right now so internet is limited, but you can just google "ICS dual core optimized" and it will probably pull right up.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 16:47 1

72. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


I've suspected it for weeks. Samsung's the only manufacturer that fiddles with the file system, cept it was giving low scores on the galaxy S devices, they must've switched tactics this time. And they do the same thing with the Tegra II in the Galaxy R I imagine.

posted on 06 Nov 2011, 01:44 1

73. kabel (Posts: 99; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


I think you are mixing up the the things. First thing "I/O" is related to hdd, ssd, flash memory ... So CPU I/O is not the same with CPU Integer performance. CPU's have separate integer and floating point units, and with that how in the he** CPU Integer performance can be expressed with FLOPS (floating-point operations per second). Read-up little bit, because you are confusing the people. "I/O" != CPU INTEGER != CPU FLOPS

posted on 06 Nov 2011, 10:19

74. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I/O simply means input/output. input the command, output the answer. As in how fast the CPU can take the equation and spit out the answer. That is all.

it is related to anything that can take in info and spit it out, which most definitely includes a CPU.. on a PC or smartphone. The integer test IS an I/O test. throw integers at the CPU, and measure how fast it spits out the answer.

posted on 07 Nov 2011, 10:06

80. kabel (Posts: 99; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


"I/O" != CPU INTEGER != CPU FLOPS
CPU Integer IS NOT measured in FLOPS as you stated above ... I'm out ...

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:37 3

8. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Or it could be that HTC's sense is crazy bloatware and is a big drain on performance. I vote that.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:54

17. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


could be true, exept XDA folks have been removing sense from the sensation and the resulting performance benchmarks didnt change all that much. Sense (or any other UI) and all of its goodies are marginalized during a benchmark test, so most of it has no bearing on the final result.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:58 1

19. Synack (Posts: 680; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


They might've removed the visual part of Sense but Sense is still the underlying UI and skin running it all. Just like when people run AOSP in place of Touchwiz. It just makes the looks of it like AOSP but it's still Touchwiz in the end.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 17:01 2

20. ArmageddonX (Posts: 96; Member since: 11 May 2011)


/faceinpalms @ Synack

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 17:01 2

21. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, my point was they have roms that run without sense completely.. not just visually removed. Its not impossible. There are many of them, including the world famous Cyanogen. Your thinking of a App drawer replacement. Im thinking of completely different programming.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 17:10 1

26. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lolol

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 20:20

48. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


That too though.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:39 1

10. IEatApples (Posts: 66; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


i agree with you remix, but wouldnt this evidence cause some questions about the exynos benchmark's too? belive me being a gs2(exynos) i dont want to believe it but it does make me wonder. gs2(exynos) runs so smooth i doubt i would care though.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:51

14. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, as u can tell by the Exynos benchmarks, its I/O scores are not inflated compared to the rest (the skyrockets I/O scores border on rediculous comparitively). The important parts to look at are the categorys i mentioned in the previous post. With just looking at those, the exynos is still the clear winner. It IS the most powerful chip on the android market right now. there is no doubt about that.

I think samsung is just pulling this little slight of hand to reduce fears that the Crapdragon induced SGS2's are still as powerful as the Exynos SGS2s. If it was an obvious difference then they wouldnt sell as well. Thats also part of the reason the crapdragon is clocked up to 1.5ghz to compensate for the lack of actual power
. I included the 1.2ghz HTC Sensation score to give a relative comparison to the Exynos at 1.2ghz, as well as the 1.5ghz Amaze which runs the exact same hardware set up as the Hercules/skyrocket except the screen.
And before anyone points to the resolutions as the difference in power, test after test has shown that the same chipset running different resolutions has only a 1-3% affect in benchmark performance.. AKA nearly none.

posted on 05 Nov 2011, 11:17

65. bucky (Posts: 3034; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


THIS! The are playing with the numbers simply to make it seem as though the Snapdragons are as fast. They are not.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:51

13. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I hear this phone has more than 1GIG RAM....is that true?

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 16:52 1

15. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


nope. same as the Hercules through and through.. 1 gig ram, 1.5ghz snapdragon, 4.52inch screen.. only difference is the trade from HSPA+ to LTE.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 17:02

22. barondebxl (Posts: 132; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


I guess the snapdragon is a very good chip unlike what people think. Hell it's capable of LTE and 42 Mbps.

posted on 04 Nov 2011, 17:08

25. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


neither of which have anything to do with the actual chip performance, and are just add on options available from qualcomm.

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