Samsung Galaxy S 4 scores twice the iPhone 5 at benchmarks, beats all other Androids, too
0. phoneArena 19 Mar 2013, 03:47 posted on
Needless to say, since the S 4 for US carriers is running the latest generation Snapdragon chip, clocked at the respectable 1.9 GHz, it beat all the current flagships by a large margin, save for the HTC One, which has the same chipset, but clocked slightly lower at 1.7 GHz...
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1. emadshiny (Posts: 1142; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
what about octa-core version?
i think US version will perform better in benchmarks.
6. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1381; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
its Octa core ...but its 4+4 config so only the A15's work , so technically its still Quad Core
7. tech2 (Posts: 2443; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Octa Core is built to conserve battery not to triumph benchmarks (which hardly translates anything noticeable in day-to-day use) !!
Also, 'TECHNICALLY' its Octa Core because it has 8 cores not Quad Core even though the maximum cores that can run at a time are only 4 !!!!!
13. wendygarett (unregistered)
If nvidia is honestly enough call their 4+1 chip is quad core instead of penta, why can't the exynos?
19. tech2 (Posts: 2443; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Thats not the point.
I was merely pointing out the fact that he misused the word 'technically' and mentioned 'only the A15's work' which is untrue.
Morally, I do believe Samsung shouldn't have named it Octa core but Dual-Quad core or something of that sort :)
53. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2058; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
They can use it as a marketing term thats why they call it octa core !
82. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
They won't make it 4 + 4 cause big.little is a market ploy to make people think phones are octacore.
39. KazEmpire (Posts: 39; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)
So 'TECHNICALLY' My Prada which is using a OMAP 4430 is Quad Core(2 A9+2 M3)
56. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Yes, but you shouldn't be proud of your benchmark results.
63. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
My variant of the galaxy s2 also uses the omap 4430 .
Making it a quad core too !
Who needs an GS3 ? Ugly as hell .
Cheaper GS2 i9100G with Ti omap 4430 'quad core ' FTW !
96. Twisted247 (Posts: 260; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
It's not built only to conserve battery. Is for the best of both worlds. And it will do well in benchmarks cause the new a15's are no joke. And they will beat the snap600 the only other chip that's using a15 architecture is TTegra4 which isn't even in a device yet.
The coupled a7's are for power consumption. Do for homework before spewing your ignorance.
35. hipnotika (Posts: 306; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
no its not octa core.
its quad core snapdragon 600. and it has adreno320 gpu.
i think with power vr gpu & exynos cpu it ll perform much performance. because power vr is more powerfull than adreno 320 ;)
83. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Undoubtly the gpu in the exynos 5 variant will destroy adreno 320. The Cpu will be better to.
66. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
But Exynos Processors have always been out performing Qualcom processors...
90. SleepingOz (unregistered)
No it's an octocore!
Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP)
This is the other actual implemented function mode of a big.LITTLE CPU. In this case, all 8 cores can be used simultaneously by the system.
This is a vastly more complex working mechanism, and its implementation is also an order of magnitude more sophisticated. It requires the kernel scheduler to actually be aware of the differentiation of between the A7 and A15 cores. Currently, the Linux kernel is not capable of doing this and treats all CPUs as equals. This is a problem since we do not want to use the A15 cores when a task can simply me processed on an A7 core with a much lower power cost.
The Linaro working-group already finished the first implementation of the HMP design as a series of patches to be applied against the Linux 3.8 kernel. What they did is to make the scheduler smart enough to be able to track the load of single process entities, and with that information to schedule the threads smartly on either the A7 cores or the A15 cores. This achieves much lower latency in terms of switching workloads, or better said, switching the environments (CPUs) to the respective work-loads, and exposes the full processing capabilities of the silicon as all cores can be used at once.
You can follow the advancements of this in the publications of the Linaro Connect summits that happen every few months. The code was only published in the middle of February this year for the first working implementation equivalent in power consumption to the IKS.
92. cheetah2k (Posts: 867; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
Its not possible that the Snapdragon 600 will out perform the Exynos 5 at the same clock speed, as the Snapdragon 600 is still a hybrid A9/A15 CPU (aka Krait), where as the Eynos is a FULL A15 setup.
69. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
This whole benchmark test is a shAm, there's no way that our beloved, delicately encased in glass and held together by Gorilla Glue, iPhone 5 aka iPhone 4S (after being stretched 5mm) came in 5th place.
iDemand a retest (but this time make sure to turn off Air Sync)!!!
36. harshithh (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Feb 2013)
phone arena idiots forgot to mention xperia z which should be at thrid place with score of 2173!!!clearly biased
54. ravearamashi (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Xperia Z? What phone is that? Is it waterproof? :P
61. asingha94 (Posts: 291; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
Actually he uses the phone underwater...
62. Rishin17 (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Ohhh yeaa..its dat flagship waterproof phone which has a s4 pro
Processor of yesteryear..a horrible 1080p screen(as compared to d htc one, butterfly or s4)..u need
A protractor for measuring d angle whether ur looking at d screen
At 90 degrees or not... a dull ui with greyish tones..cumbersome positioning of the speaker..which is very irritating as the sound gets muffled by ur hand or finger when u play games..and u gotta crank open the flap of d 3.5mm headphone jack with a crowbar.
What a flagship smartphone! !!!! Phew
68. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Go whine elsewhere, would you?!
And no, the XZ will only be at the fourth place..
According to PA, the Optimus G Pro is second after the GSIV with 2878 points. =]
3. edgabimbam (unregistered)
hmmm this benchmark test is useless, ofcourse with high-end hardware it will be the best, but what about browsermark, sunspider tests? ^^
15. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Sun spider is the most useless test ever, if you want to talk hardware.
It is heavily software dependant.
For example, my S3 scores 1900ms with Chrome, and 1170ms with Dolphin.
Samsung Chromebook with Exynos 5 scores 900ms, while Nexus 10 with the same chip scored almost 2000ms (the lower the better of course) with the stock Android Chrome.
21. edgabimbam (unregistered)
If you want high benchmark scores related to hardware then sorry it is total bulls**t, i prefer software optimization, faster, smoother user expierence ;)
30. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You're not getting the point obviously.
To get an indication of the smoothness potential, you have to use a hardware based test.
If my S3 scores 1170 on sunspider with Dolphin, S4 will surely score way under 1000, probably somewhere around 700-800.
Yet, if you put it on some slow browser, it can score even worse than 1170.
Anyway, you can change tons of browsers, but you can't change the hardware, and that's the point.
4. pokerc (Posts: 57; Member since: 24 May 2012)
Now this is better, unlike that silly game controller
5. ghanemsam (Posts: 64; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
Geekbench is not reliable or trusted give me Antutu and quadrant
8. tech2 (Posts: 2443; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
maybe.......but it is the only one which is closest when it has to be compared with iPhones
11. darkskoliro (Posts: 997; Member since: 07 May 2012)
hahaa quadrant is silly too. But i love the figures they give on quad
9. wando77 (Posts: 324; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
Is the octacore more or less powerful than the snap600?
14. zackdbassist (Posts: 22; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Going by the architecture that the octa core uses it is A15 for 4 performance cores and A7 for the power saving cores. And from what details are available from qualcomm S600 is an architecture somewhere between A9 and A15 performance wise. In theory A15 would outgun the S600 with much ease but again another factor is s600 is clocked at 1.9 Ghz compared to 1.6 Ghz for the Exynos 5 octa which should even out the performance. But when it comes to less battery intensive tasks and the A7 cores kick in thereby reducing the power usage to around 1/5th. That should be almost the same performance from both the chipsets but less battery consumption on the Exynos 5 octa.
17. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually, Anandtech speculates that A15 is clocked at only 1.2ghz..
Oh well, we'll find out about that soon enough
43. zackdbassist (Posts: 22; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Buddy, the A7 cores are clocked at 1.2ghz. My source is Anandtech and a few more websites. If you can just confirm that again.
46. zackdbassist (Posts: 22; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
The quad-core A7 can run at between 200MHz and 1.2GHz, while the quad-core A15 can run at a range of 200MHz to 1.8GHz.
Lines taken from the Anandtech article...What this article has mentioned as Architecture Arm v7a might have confused you. v7a is the instruction set used by both A7 and A15 architecture.
84. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Also it will be able to be overclocked after it gets rooted.
16. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Oh no it's the same thing as last year. :""(
Oh wait it's at least twice pushing twice as many pixels on brighter, more natural screen. It hs 2 IR sensors a barometer, pedometer, humidity and thermometer sensors, new-gen 13MP camera with 60FPS FHS recording, DDR3 RAM, AirView, FloatingTouch, Smart controls with dedicated sensor, bigger battery, power saving SoC, , slimmer design, wireless charging, Visa payment, Gorilla Glass 3 protection, KNOX security.
Biggest step forward than any other new Galaxy.
18. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
S3 was bigger and fatter than S2, and also had the same camera, and same basic CPU &GPU architecture.
None of that goes this time around
47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4108; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The only thing they really kept the same was the look of the software, and they only made small changes to the design. Otherwise they gave it some nice upgrades.
I'm definitely going to try out the GS4. I'll get a hands on with it (and the One) in store, and if I like it I'll buy the unlocked international version, if not I'll get the international HTC One. Then whichever I end up with I'll sell later in the year to bury the cost of the Nexus 5 or Motorola X.
I'm trying to get a cycle going where I get 2 new devices a year; the Samsung or HTC flagship in the first half, then the Nexus or Motorola flagship the second half. Fun :)
58. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
im still looking forward to new touchwiz skin this near months:D
20. DHILLON_ARSH (Posts: 66; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
STILL NOT IMPRESSED....COZ OFF ITS CHEAP PLASTIC....
GONNA WAIT FOR *NEXUS 5 * GOOGLE/MOTO X * OR SOME ANOTHER NICE PHONE TO LAUNCH,,,,,
22. zackdbassist (Posts: 22; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Mr Arsh Dhillon. Wait for the demo units to arrive, get a feel of the device, use it once and then share your opinion. I acknowledge the fact that it's not as good looking as say the One or Z but its still way better than S3 which in turn broke all sales record thanks to all the features. And even after getting the demo if you are not satisfied with the product then go ahead with One or Z or Nexus 5 or iPhone5 or even the Vertu. Whichever suits you. Kindly don't detest something even before you have seen it or used it.
55. Diego! (Posts: 508; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
I agree. Last year I had the luck to travel with my brothers to the US for the first time in my life. I remembered back then, I wanted to get an HTC One X because its design was/is beautiful. But, when I had it in my hands, I felt really disappointed. I heard everybody saying its materials were great but when I had it in my hands it felt cheap to me. My twin brother has an SGS III, and we compared both of them at the very same time, and I have to admit, despite the fact I didn't like SGS III design very much, when I had it my hands it felt much better constructed and proportioned than the HTC One X. So this time, I will do the same. I see everybody is praising HTC ONE for the materials HTC used to build it, but I will wait to get both phones in my hands before making up my mind. But, the Full HD SuperAMOLED looks amazing to me, so for now I will go with Samsung Galaxy S IV, but I won't decide until I try both phones :)
57. wando77 (Posts: 324; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
I think the design is the perfect compromise. All glass GG3 front, metal frame and plastic back (which allows the memory and battery to be swapped out)
59. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Maybe the Xperia Z is tired right now, it needs to rest before it can DEFEAT the S4. :)
79. ebubekir26 (Posts: 312; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
xperia z is never going to defeat MOSTER S4
85. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The Xperia Zs brother with a snapdragon 800 will be here in a few months to remind Samsung whos the boss.
65. harshithh (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Feb 2013)
phone arena idiots forgot to mention xperia z which should be at thrid place with score of 2173!!!check gsmarena
67. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Dude, relax....chill.....You don't have to call them idiots. :)