Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 waves goodbye to on-screen Android buttons: good idea or not?
0. phoneArena 25 Jan 2013, 09:36 posted on
Just recently we saw more images of the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 and while there is nothing that striking about the upcoming tablet at first glance…
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
40. Shubham412302 (Posts: 292; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
i hate them while playing games...
sometime google now comes out as they are accidently pressed on gnex
42. networkdood (Posts: 5237; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
ok, make two variations, one with much bezel and once with very little bezel.
44. AFnerdTP (Posts: 82; Member since: 15 May 2012)
i was hoping this will replace my 7.7.... sigh...
i'm not crazy about the physical buttons. when it comes to tablets, i'd much prefer to have comfortable grip on each side, without having to worry about pressing the touch buttons or the home button. (which happens with my note2)
and this design.... not very good for me.. and i'm a big Samsung fan
45. AfterShock (Posts: 889; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Hit an miss with on screen on phones, tablets would be expected for my usage.
About this tablet, pass on looks alone.
47. Klamba92 (Posts: 162; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
I prefer on screen buttons because they rotate with the screen its quicker and its always uniform. However what I don't know why Google don't have a hide gesture to get rid of them when you want. I really like what Huaiwai did with there ui to hide the soft keys when you want.
48. matt212308 (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 10. With custom software installed I always have the option hide the on-screen buttons at any time or have them on. I really like having the option depending on the usage situation and much prefer this to the physical buttons on my previous devices.
49. lft4ded (Posts: 11; Member since: 14 Aug 2011)
I prefer physical buttons. There are somethings I can do without looking at the phone directly that I would have to divert my eyes for with onscreen buttons.
50. taz89 (Posts: 1895; Member since: 03 May 2011)
100% agree always hated on screen buttons on my screen and taking up valuable real estate on my nexus 7.
51. semipro1337 (Posts: 59; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)
whats the purpose of the speaker up at the top as if it were a phone? Somethings not right here....
56. taz89 (Posts: 1895; Member since: 03 May 2011)
It has phone capabilities...nothing new the original tab and the tab 7.7 had phone features in some regions..if you going to have a sim in a tablet you might aswel have the ability to make calls
60. semipro1337 (Posts: 59; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)
I agree with that, but just the fact that they made a tablet look like a phone is kinda stupid. I can see if it had only BT and speakerphone for making calls, who in their right mind is going to hold this thing up to theyre ear? I can get my N7 to fit in my palm and hold it that way, but this thing is even bigger.
63. lauremar (Posts: 180; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)
I am sure Google will find a way to auto-hide the on-screen buttons and pull it up whenever you need it with a swipe gesture if Android users are concerned about loosing screen real estate all that much... I'd be up for that...maybe it's already in the works and may come out on the next Android version 5.0 Key Lime Pie?
64. phonemonkey (Posts: 150; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)
if you think they don't know there is a loss of screen size you are smoking crack.
the companies spending millions and millions of dollars about these devices know 100x more about its design than you do,
read a few columns, write a few,
and all of a sudden you know more than those spending millions of dollars designing these tablets
65. saiki4116 (Posts: 296; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
On screen Buttons gives you clean look and are flexible,uniform.I don't mind some space is wasted for the uniform look.
67. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
If they really want to screen space the solution could be a toogle option like the one found on paranoid rom and TMT launcher where you get this beautiful stuff
68. abchco123 (Posts: 12; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
In 4 years this will be the size galaxy s8.
70. ashb22 (Posts: 14; Member since: 15 Jun 2012)
I have a Galaxy S3, and it's always bugged me a little that it has the physical home button and the two capacitive buttons. I just don't like the inconsistency from a design standpoint. I'd be fine with either all capicitive buttons beneath the screen or having all of the buttons onscreen.
74. Phaze0085 (Posts: 95; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Great idea. I love the physical buttons cause everytime i see onscreen keys I just always thing how more of the screen can go where the buttons are. I think its imoportant separate your screen from where your buttons are.
75. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5466; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
I prefer physical button than on screen buttons. if something happened to the on screen button the phs
77. CMonster (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
How much you wanna bet Verizon slaps their logo on that button too? >:-/
78. Tele7 (Posts: 47; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)
Maybe in a 7 inch tablet or smartphone its is 'waste' but in a 10 inch tablet it is absolutely good
79. ckoch125 (Posts: 163; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
They want their design language to show across all their devices. Makes sense so that people can recognize without a doubt it's a Samsung.
86. monkeytown (Posts: 89; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
people already do recognize when they see the glossy plastic
80. Etzioni (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Oct 2012)
I can see the HTC One X behind the Note 8.0!
81. elsupercaico (Posts: 9; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)
Im glaf someone was smart enough to think about this and bring it up for discussion because one of the reasons why I traded my nexus 4 for a galaxy s3 was because of the huge space wasted thanks to the buttons on the screen. I think that if they have to be there by necessity then at least they should dissappear when not needed or being used.
83. ChafedBanana (Posts: 350; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
I love my on screen buttons on my Galaxy Nexus. If I want an expanded desktop, I hold down the power button for a second to easily get rid of them thanks to Cyanogenmod 10.
85. monkeytown (Posts: 89; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
on screen buttons should be get rid of asap
and boy, do android tablets have a f****** huge bezel :S
88. Riven (Posts: 25; Member since: 25 May 2012)
Geez calm down, the buttons vanish when you're doing most things were you need more screen (like watching movies, youtube etc) I cant believe this author is going bat s**t crazy over 4-8% of his screen SOMETIMES not being there. I used to hate on these On Screen buttons, but then i started liking the fact that they made navigation easier because as i tilted and moved my device the buttons moved with it and i wasnt reaching across the earth to navigate. Now i totally like them on my Nexus 4, i'm glad Google is going in this direction. Pretty soon we're gonna run out of bottom bezel anyway and this author won't have a bone to pick and lose sleep over 4.4% of his screen. My thoughts, have a nice day!
90. phonemirer (Posts: 110; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
on screen might be better if theres no bezel down
91. firestarter2 (Posts: 14; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
I think the intention was to have the screens be larger due to the lack of hardware buttons. Common were are the edge to edge screens?
92. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
The idea behind virtual buttons is that they go away when they arent needed. In my experience however; they are almost always present. And they are extremely hard to avoid; especially in games where they are often in landscape orientation and on the right side exactly where buttons are located. Its a great idea. But right now; they quite frankly need alot of work.
Personally, Im a big fan of capacitive buttons. They are smooth to the touch, and thus dont get in the way when holding the phone in landscape AND dont reduce the screen size. Plus they arent as fragile as physical homebuttons; which do wear out over time and are far more often faulty than capacitive ones (in my experience of course).
It still boggles my mind how god awful Samsung's button arrangement is. Having a dedicated settings button these days is straight up retarded. All of your settings are easy to change from your notification tray ESPECIALLY in Touchwiz.
93. Twisted247 (Posts: 193; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
I personally think it's a great idea. I like hardware or physical buttons myself. The three button system on the Galaxy s3 and Note 2 is perfectly ideal for me. I didn't like the 4 buttons on my Evo. For me the search button was just a nuisance, if I wanted to search I have a Google now search bar on my home screen at the top. If I want to search files Ihave the option in the menu keys lineup. So just having a menu, home, and back button is exactly what I like. I really hope they keep the same setup for the s4 and note 3.
The only place where on screen buttons may have a place is on a device in which the screen runs bezel to bezel, no black space or anything taken up by the frame etc. Then and only then would it be possible to be utilized correctly.
98. brownbrady (Posts: 1; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)
Neither. Just copy the way the BlackBerry PlayBook does it with a simple swipe up or down to wake up the device or to switch between apps, swipe down to reveal app options, swipe from top left/right corner to reveal status bar. Works in any orientation. That way, the app is always on full screen.