Samsung Galaxy NX Overview
0. phoneArena 01 Jul 2013, 06:58 posted on
The Samsung Galaxy NX has just arrived in our hands and it is a fascinating gadget. It’s not a phone despite boasting a SIM card slot - it’s a dedicated camera…
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1. hung2900 (Posts: 781; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
The samples are very nice. But I can see no big difference between a DSLR level and Galaxy S4 (I9505 with worse Exmor R sensor compared to Exmor RS of I9500)
17. JonSilvers (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
if you can see difference between cameras on phones, you must see much greater difference between dslr and cameraphones. Even compact digitals have nicer amount of details than cameraphones.
S4 haves 31mm f 2.0 bsi sensor size 1/3" and crop factor of 7.21, compared to Galaxy nx that haves aps-c size sensor with 1.5 crop factor.
Take a little better look at those photos.
2. raunak (Posts: 502; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Think of it this way. If this device sells for 600 bucks, and there is another canon or nikon at the same price, they'll offer better image quality, because instead of having big display and a processor for running android, they'll have better optics for the same price. Add to that the fact that no professional photographer wants to upload photos to instagram immediately, atleast not without observing it on computer or any big screen first.
I'm no samsung hater, their phones have great cameras, but this android camera thing is just useless.
4. raunak (Posts: 502; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Some examples, you mean?
Well my father got eos 550d last year for about 600 and it surely offers better photos than this camera.
Also, at first I thought this nx is going to offer better images than ANY phone ever, because of the sheer size of it. But now after seeing these samples, I think 808 MIGHT, just might best it. There's the advantage of interchangable lens, but they are very expansive and this camera is simply not worth it.
7. juandante (Posts: 294; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
I'm not confident in this camera. It's useful to have a very responsive machine and nice screen, but if I want to take pictures, with a DSLR, I will search for a camera with better optics first. Also, all the recent DSLR doesn't lag like Android. I know a lot of people will fall into the trap because of Android on this camera, but it is not at all the best for the price it is.
9. FireBlast (Posts: 6; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
Your eos 550d features a cheap pentamirror (not prism) which doesn't even offer full coverage of the frame (a bit ironic since the whole point of an SLR is to provide the exact same image of the sensor, through the viewfinder), whereas NX's EVF does. The eos 550 is an entry level camera for amateurs, FAR away from what professionals would use otherwise. So why are you comparing the nx for professional use then?
And how exactly can you say " they'll have better optics for the same price". There are no "optics" in the camera, it's just a sensor. Optics=lens. And no, 600 bucks is a far outcry from how much a professional would pay for his gear. And if you think owners of dslrs in the range of $500-$1000 do not want wifi,sharing and features otherwise found on a smartphone, then you are completely deluded.
Also, how exactly did you come to the conclusion that the IQ of the NX is subpar to the 550d? By sampling the few pictures phonearena uploaded? Differences between 2 APS-C sensors are minimal. Comparison must happen between same compositions, at the same exposure settings, on similar quality lens, and the differences are only observed when pixel peeping. People on this page commented they can't spot the difference between a dslr and a galaxy s4. I'm glad you managed to determine that it's poor compared to bespoken dslrs from the 3 pictures on the site (using the kit lens). Should I even bother mentioning that the NX series has a good track of quality sensors?
My main gripe with the camera is the poor choice of the screen, and the fact that they've moved all the manual controls into the touch interface. Apart from those, Samsung has done everything right. Mirrorless and connectivity is the future and the solution to an archaic design. It's already eroding the market share of entry and mid-level SLRs regardless on how much you tout Canikon as being superior.
Have fun shooting your Rebel
13. juandante (Posts: 294; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
Your message is full of nonsense because the fact is that putting a 1.6Ghz Quad Core CPU, an Android and keep all this sh*t for a price of 600$, they had to remove some IQ things to keep this price low.
A simple phone with this power is already bad expensive. Secondly Samsung is not known to be good in theire DSLR IQ. So if they have to remove things to put Android features it is worst for theire camera.
And NO, entry DSLR buyers get first these type of camera for Photoshopping witch has nothing to do with sharing in first place, or they would buy a simple compact camera with all the Facebook features.
The problem with this camera is that the marketing budget seems to be higher than the IQ budget. For the moment I can't say if it's good (past Samsung's camera tells us that there is many chances that's it's not), but we must warn everyone that it's maybe not the best for 600$.
14. FireBlast (Posts: 6; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
.....Did they remove that IQ using a shovel? The electronics in a dslr are equally expensive. Being able to output images at high resolution in raw while bursting requires a serious computing power. Just because a dslr doesn't flaunter terms such as "quad-core" doesn't make it a slouch, or cheap for that matter. Should I also add the fact that that CPU has a much higher production rate than the one you get in a DSLR, keeping the costs down? And that the cpu from a dslr is designed internally for a specific range of products, instead of being featured in phones/tablets etc. (that increases the cost)
Samsung doesn't make DSLRs in the first place (they stopped a long time ago), and that sensor is on equal footing with the likes of D3xxx, perhaps D5xxx and most Rebels. You can check the studio comparison tool on dpreview.
If there is one thing which Samsung does most of the time well, despite much of the hate against the brand, is pricing adequately. You forgot to add the extra "brand" image you pay for a cheap Nikon/Canon camera. Comparing it against an entry level Pentax and perhaps Sony alpha or Nex/MFT (if you prefer mirrorless) might make it more realistic, since they offer better value for money.
I can't possibly take you serious when saying that first time buyers are not interested in connectivity. Manufacturers are adding Wifi and nfc in almost all their cameras because.....they don't have a better way to justify the price? Connectivity does not mean facebook, but being able to output your image directly on a tablet/tv, or share it with a person without using cables/sd cards. Most dslr buyers don't even process raw, and instead shoot in jpeg directly....so they can edit in photoshop? You think the main motivation is to upgrade the camera so you can edit its photos? You upgrade from a smartphone camera because you enjoy shooting, and want better control over your photos, NOT to spend hours in editing software. Very few people do that. I hardly know any people that post-process their images.
And the incentive is to migrate more advanced editing software from pc/mac to tablets, and inherently that camera which is running android. That should still give it an advantage.
16. iushnt (Posts: 614; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
okay its your opinion but not all will agree..I also disagree
11. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Raunak, you can say fail all you like, but this is where the future is headed. Canon and nikon can ignore and do their thing, but remember kodak.
15. iushnt (Posts: 614; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
when will you give atleast 1 positive comment about Samsung? This will make you more creditable..They have done all the market research to fill certain demand GAPS with this products. If you have not done any research on your own then it feels like you are just Samsung hater because i have never seen any positive comment about from you Samsung
5. oldbto (Posts: 18; Member since: 19 May 2010)
I'm wondering about the screen in bright sunlight. If it is not any better than my S4 then it would be very hard to use in bright sunlight being as most of the controls are on the screen. No mention of this in review. Seems like they would have at least touched on this in the review.
6. kobainez (Posts: 302; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
I thought this is a phone site and why are they reviewing a camera?
8. juandante (Posts: 294; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
I agree, but it seems that they are one of the first to review it so I'm happy, but I'll wait for camera sites to have a better idea.
10. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Canon and nikon diehards will stay with their cameras no matter what. Samsung is going after people who embrace new tech.
19. JonSilvers (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
This is just marketing hype, nothing more. Mirrorless is a new tech, good IQ in smaller package with the same aps-c sensor. Fuji with his new sensor is a new tech.
This isn't bad idea, but it isn't good also. This is a dslr for samsung lovers. I had samsung phones, and used all from s1 to s3, galaxy nexus and note also, so i am not a samsung hater, they just makes worst cameras of known brands.
12. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 294; Member since: 26 May 2011)
What's the optical zoom capability on this bad boy?