Samsung GALAXY Note II sells 30 million units
0. phoneArena 02 Oct 2013, 18:37 posted on
Just as the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has started to become available, a sales count of its predecessor shows that a remarkable 30 million units of the Samsung GALAXY Note II were sold; that was triple the number of sales that Samsung generated for the first generation Samsung Galaxy Note, the device that helped coin the name phablet...
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7. Finalflash (Posts: 1903; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Not just well done, but well done for doing things right. Not to be too trollish but Apple should take a good look at Samsung's model here. They successfully founded a fairly large new market in the mobile phone industry and have increased their customer base and appeal. They didn't just reduce the value of a previous phone model and call it targeting a "new market segment". They delivered an actual "new" phone for a market that no one thought would be nearly this large. Hopefully the rumors about next year are true with Apple releasing multiple sized phones. I want to see more competition in every market possible, because the consumer will likely gain more value for less in such a situation.
12. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Sorry, but that is just rubbish.
The correct metric is ROIC, not the number of absolute sales.
The financial graveyard is filled full with companies that sold many units, but are no longer in business since it WACC was less than ROIC.
All Samsung did was throw things against a wall and saw what stuck. People bought the Note, and more people bought the Note 2, but like any novelty, Note 3 will not have the same success as Note 2. Why you ask -- the other Android OEMs can also throw stuff against the wall, there are more OEMs competing in the "phablet space".
And most importantly, it WASN'T Samsung that came out with a smart phone with a big screen, that was Dell so please do us a favor and check your facts before looking silly. Samsung did a better job than Dell, but IT DID NOT INVENT the market -- Dell was just too early.
24. Jason2k13 (Posts: 657; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
Other companies have been throwing stuff against the wall ever since the 1st galaxy phone became popular, and those companies are still nowhere near to the number of sales of Samsung.
Barely anyone knew about dell streak, it was Samsung that made "big screens" popular.
27. amiaq (Posts: 499; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
What a colorful wall of *phoneC, we will see soon.
25. Finalflash (Posts: 1903; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Dell invented the phablet fine and they can have that title. Founding a market for it was not what they can be credited for hence why they are no longer there. Samsung was the first to get a decent market for the device by making the device more usable with its larger screen(S-pen, customized apps and software). If the Note 2 sold 30 million, that is an amazing feat, given that the most successful iPhone to date (iPhone 5) has sold 90 million total so far. That is a huge market and the ROIC is probably pretty amazing as well, seeing as the SGS4 is about $240 to make and this thing cannot be more than $300 most likely (it is probably less since it uses less complex and cheaper components than the SGS4).
Finally, the more entrants the better and it will not decrease their sales one bit. Mainly because while the smartphone market is nearing saturation for those in the mid section of the market, the niches haven't been fully exploited yet and are worth a lot of money (small, mid and huge phone segments). Likely increased choice will lead to more consumers entering the market and older phablet customers will most likely also remain there as it just keeps getting better. Just like the introduction of the SGS4 didn't mean Apple sold fewer iPhone 5 phones than they did iPhone 4s phones. There are many who waited for a better phablet and now they are getting serious choice.
Overall, please stop ranting and hating for no reason. Take a moment to think and analyse properly and then write up something without coming off as a rabid fanboy (although for whom I can't really tell since I don't think there is a dell fanboy, so maybe an anti-fanboy against samsung?).
28. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Telling someone their arguments are rubbish (along with a detail response), or that they made mis-statements of facts is not hating or ranting. That is your opinion and opinions are not facts.
Also, challenging someone's assertion or views is not hating or ranting. I may disagree with you and if my arguments intimidates you, then so be it.
Selling 30 million IS NOT an amazing feat. What if I told you that Samsung could have sold 60 million units and ended up with 30, would you still have the same conclusion. I doubt that. Unless you tell me what was Samsung's potential sales, then I have to reserve my opinion of whether their sales was amazing. My point is absolute numbers are meanings without a benchmark or reference point.
Second, your argument of comparing the iPhone 5 to the Note 2 is equally rubbish -- yes, your argument is rubbish because they are two different markets. Apple sells expensive products and under the Law of Demand, more products are demanded at lower price points, ceteris paribus.
Third, it's clear you don't know how to calculate ROIC - and you are just being a bullspit artist. You have to calculate NOPLAT first, and that takes 2 days to 4 days to calculate properly. I doubt you spent the time to do it properly.
So, if anything, you are the one who is ranting with non sequitur comments. You need to stop, think, and write your arguments out as opposed to making ad hominem attacks.
Here's what I did: I disagreed with Finalflash's position, I offered my views on sales of the Note 3, and I corrected him of the inventor of the phablet (in a separate post, I provided a link to point out Finalflash's mistatement of fact). There was no hating or ranting on my part, that was your opinion.
In summary, if people like Finalflash make an assertion based on bogus information, then stating their position is rubbish is a fair comment based on the erroneous assumptions employed by Finalflash. He made the mistakes all by himself. All I did was point out the mistakes.
33. Immolate (Posts: 288; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
I'm not sure if you're a frustrated Dell investor or a butt-hurt former phone designer, but it's quite obvious you have little, if any grasp of economics and perhaps even less familiarity with phones. iPhones are not more expensive than the Note 2 which sold subsidized for $300, the same price as the 32GB iPhone 5 and $100 less than Apple's big seller, the 16GB model. All of which, of course, is irrelevant to your mad rant about the wonders of the Dell Streak, aptly named for the bloody smear it left when it crashed and burned. Barring some unforeseen, fatal flaw in the Note 3, it will out-sell the Note 2 as appetites for well-engineered, big phones continue to increase, especially in Asian markets.
Do a little research, leave your personal wishes and biases behind, and try to understand the world around you as it is, not as you wish it to be. You will be far less bitter about life in general, and less likely to embarrass yourself when commenting in these forums.
PS. If you want to bet on a dark horse, bet on the Windows Phones. At least they have a chance, however remote, of breaking out and becoming an effective competitor to Android and that other OS.
29. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 203; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
That really explains why Dell is laughing their way to the bank to cash those multi billion dollar checks.... oh wait thats Samsung.
17. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
> They delivered an actual "new" phone for a market that no one thought would be nearly this large
Check out the Dell Streak -- all those "accolades" really belong to Dell
31. HouTexan (Posts: 316; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)
People did not know it existed! Stop hating. Samsung deserves the accolades for carving out a new market, not Dell.
3. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 66; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
how is the sony xperia z ultra a competition to the note 3? i mean, the note 3 is gonna be carried by all the main u.s. carriers...the z ultra on the other hand has been out for a while now and isnt even offered by any of the main u.s. carriers...so really, the z ultra is no threat to the note 3, atleast here in the u.s.
4. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
did nokia have ever sold that much lumia combined? 30 million is big number no?
5. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Sales figures should be adjusted since the Galaxy Note II is 2x's the size and 2x's the smartphone than just a substandard 4-inch phone.
30 million Galaxy Note II's = 50 million little phones.
11. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1271; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Your math is as poor as your rhetoric. They should have extended your ban to save you the embarrassment of spouting more drivel. However, it seems you and Samesung were made for each other: You are both dishonest and you both have an undeserved sense of superiority that at no point comes within 10 AU of reality.
6. nasznjoka (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
well done sammy proving them haters wrong especially PHONE REVIEWERS
8. nctx77 (Posts: 572; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
The note 3 will sell less. The competition is heating up. The note 2 really didn't have any competition.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 12618; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Great device, I'm shocked it didn't sell more. I love mine, enough that I decided to skip the note 3.
20. Yes-Sir (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
See another troll post buy you! It sold 10 million.
Stop trolling and saying nonsensical stuffs! Go away you troll!
22. darkkjedii (Posts: 12618; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
All I have to say to you is "provide the links". Joke
34. GoogleSafariFox (banned) (Posts: 100; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Note 3 will sell more, just wait after this month.
15. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Sincerely the best phone I've ever owned. I pretty much change phones every 8 to 12 months but actually think I can hold out until next generation with my N2. N1 was fun but impractical due to its terrible earpiece and low speaker volume. N2 just does everything right. My two cents :)
32. GoogleSafariFox (banned) (Posts: 100; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
The Galaxy Note 3 will Surpass its Successful predecessor Note 2's Number of Sold Units.
Really, Note 2 and 3 are just the Best Phablets of the year! Not because of its Brand but because of their Performance and Awesome Useful Features. Now, I can feel that those Bored, Sad, Jealous Samsung haters will troll and compare their beloved Flop phones here again. Way to go Sammy!