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Samsung Exynos 5410 could get software update to become true octa-core chip

0. phoneArena 11 Sep 2013, 10:07 posted on

We already know that the Samsung Exynos 5410 chip is not a true octa-core chip; with the big.LITTLE technology, two sets of 4 cores are utilized with one set active at a time. Just the other day, we told you how Samsung had used Heterogeneous Multi-Processing Capability (HMP) to turn its Exynos 5 line into true octa-core processors able to use all eight cores at a single time...

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posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:12 15

1. PhoneCritic (Posts: 357; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Nice. This is truly innovating on the part of ARM and Samsung for allowing a software upgrade to do this instead of a hardware upgrade. This gives additional life to the international S4.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:45 2

8. sharks (Posts: 164; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)


It's not gonna happen for the S4 as the latter has already gone halfway through its lifespan before the S5 is announced in about 6 months. Samsung isn't going to unleash the marketing of "true octacore" via a simple update. That moniker will be reserved for something grand and new, in the form of its next flagship device. However, the Note 3 might still be eligible, although it is already packing a newer Exynos chipset with a lot of more CPU and GPU power relative to other handsets on the market right now. So, my guess is - no true octacore update for Note 3 either. The only solid possibility is after the S5 reveal, when the S4 is refreshed into the S4 Plus.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:10 5

16. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


All this is just a Kernel that needs to be downloaded via Root

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 13:55

29. heyhi (Posts: 124; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)


i guess Note 3 will be a true octacore.
i read this on XDA Forum - a guy asked about the difference between exynos 5410(S4) and the new 5420(N3).

Q: " read in the S4 forum that the Exynos 5410 is affected by a bug at the Corelink which caused some slow downs in the switch between A7 and A15 cores. Is the Exynos 5420 bugfree?"

A: "Exynos 5410 had its CCI disabled - a hardware limitation, not a bug. The CCI is enabled in 5420"

According to the answer, im not sure how they're gonna update 5410 if its a "hardware limitation", according to him.
5420 doesnt have this "limitaion", so.....

Q: "Do we actually know if the 5420 supports the HMP (Heterogenius MultiProcessing)? If it does, will we have to wait for a software upgrade? (kernel?)"

A: "It does support all the 3 processing types. Latest linux kernel has the support."

i dont understand about programing, not sure about the answers, if they're tottaly true, but it seems about right.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 15:55

32. Shatter (Posts: 2024; Member since: 29 May 2013)


It is not half way to the S5 try about 7-8 more months.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:48

13. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


What a beast!!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:17 4

2. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


It has been not a true octa core ? then samsung lied :D

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:33 16

7. xDrizzyXx (Posts: 62; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)


Samsung never said it was a true octa-core. Its has always been big.LITTLE.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:46 3

22. SleepingOz (unregistered)


It is a true octa-core, it's just not meant to be used as such.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:20 4

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5745; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I wonder how hot the phones will be in true 8-core mode? GS 4 in game mode will literally be too hot to hold....

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:11 3

18. scumbledEGG (unregistered)


octacore=timed bomb

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 20:39

38. Volcra (Posts: 20; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


It's more like the other way around; if you're doing the same amount of work on a quad core processor on a Octacore, temperatures will be lower as there is less strain on each individual core; also the battery life would be more efficient.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:59

44. scumbledEGG (unregistered)


if you are only at 1ghz, but was the use of octacores if you aint running at 2ghz??? but then you'll be toast, haha! great power means great responsibilities, haha!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:23 2

4. galanoth (Posts: 318; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)


I thought the Galaxy Note 3 is using the 5420.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:47 1

12. Alan01 (Posts: 185; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)


I thought that it was clear that this would also apply to the 5420 as well. I've added a few words to make that clewarer. Thanks!

Alan F.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:25

5. tarun.parashar (Posts: 3; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)


this is crazy.
How would they PHYSICALLY adjoin those dual processors. :p

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:29 5

6. yadu004 (Posts: 63; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)


Hell Yeah!!!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:46 1

9. raghu67 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


i don't think this is something that can be done by just a software update..
as it has to do with how the processor cores interact with each-other & transfer the load.
as per what i understand, this new feature might be enabled in the newer 5420 SoC or may be with the newer batches of 5410 & 5420..
i may be wrong also..

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:07 7

14. ashisharbola (Posts: 61; Member since: 20 Oct 2012)


Are you the engineer behind Exynos 5410 So u can say it can't be happen....

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:43

43. raghu67 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


am not the engineer behind 5410 design,
i said it is my opinion and i also said i may be wrong...
whats wrong with you.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:46 5

10. rawbow (Posts: 427; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


That's good support! Now Android needs to play catch up to these amazing processors

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 10:47 4

11. piyath (Posts: 150; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


GREAT!!!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:09

15. scumbledEGG (unregistered)


specs, specs, its all about OS...

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:13 4

19. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Mighty true A15s™

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:40

21. scumbledEGG (unregistered)


agreed but what about bloatware issues compared with different os?

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:10

17. FreakenSolom (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)


I wonder how will that effect the bettery life thing -_-
I mean that the whole point of the Big.little was to make life bettery better ........ right O.o !!!!!!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:19 1

20. Nephylim (Posts: 134; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)


woow, great !!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:53 1

23. SonyPS4 (Posts: 251; Member since: 21 May 2013)


Give us battery that last a week and minimum 128gb internal storage then we can talk about octa core or 4k video (to all manufacturer not just Samsung)

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 12:08 3

25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8265; Member since: 14 May 2012)


You're demanding a Ferrari with a Toyota price. It's never going to happen.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 17:44 1

33. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


I'll take the Toyota as it will run off a tank of gas for a week, the Ferrari will be out of gas in 1/4th the time. I like to get where I'm going without having to plan my route accoring to filling stations.

Samsung has a nice 128 GB internal storage, but Seagate just dropped the bomb of 500GB internal storage for slim tablets, I wonder if they can use the same tech to toss 250GB storage in a cellular device?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 05:46

42. shuaibhere (Posts: 1428; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


for your kind information...seagate is one of samsung partners...

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:59 2

24. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


The Meizu uses a Exynos5410 just like the I9500 GS4, PA!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_mx3-5679.php

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 12:12 1

26. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


This can be done in a software update. It's a hack for dual core phones that makes both cores work at the same time. It's just better for multitasking and doesn't increase speed that much. Idk about battery life.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 12:23

27. harigrg33 (Posts: 155; Member since: 20 May 2013)


If this update goin to make my s4 more hotter than I dont want coz its already very hot.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 19:08 1

35. joey_sfb (Posts: 2899; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


ding..ding..ding.. hater detected.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 13:31

28. sarge77 (Posts: 202; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


who care anymore the octa core is a huge let down in the US maybe the net big phone samsung makes will get an octa core here not impressed on how we get left out.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 19:09 2

36. joey_sfb (Posts: 2899; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


ding..ding..ding.. hater detected.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 21:41

39. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


More like not a dumb fanboy like you.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 00:44

41. joey_sfb (Posts: 2899; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


ding..ding...ding..hater detected. Prescribe chlorine acid as mouth wash recommended.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 14:09

30. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Just dumb.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 14:46

31. nasznjoka (Posts: 339; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


gettin interesting

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 17:49

34. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


OK people, unless apps or the OS takes advantage of having 8 cores, this is just a pissing match that is still pointless as when the phone is in use those extra cores will activate possibly once or twice and the phone will still run off the two main cores it was always running anyway. Too much techno talk and no actual real world trials...has Samsung shown this running off everyday apps and in use in the hands of the average user? nope just big news on sites like these and it still pushes no boundaries as it's pretty moot as dual core apps dominate the market. Overemphasis on tech advances and not enough maximizing the power we have in our hands right now.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 19:27 1

37. Nephylim (Posts: 134; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U#t=96

Performance + Efficiency in Perfect Harmony

My S4 i9500 waiting update !!!! ;)

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 23:52

40. samzkrnd (Posts: 13; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


i will need a bigger powerbank capacity

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