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Samsung Exynos 5 Dual aims to be the first Cortex A15-based processor, shoots for higher heights in mobile graphics, memory performance

0. phoneArena 10 Aug 2012, 04:03 posted on

We’ve already heard about the Samsung Exynos 5 series of chips, but now Samsung has posted a whitepaper for the Samsung Exynos 5250…

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posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:48 2

14. Lawliet (Posts: 160; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


Qualcomm's chips are their own designs, but the performance of S4 and A15 is similar

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:23

30. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


We don't really know about performance yet, but if the specifications are correct A15 is "only" going to be around 40% more powerful than the A9.
Then you would be right (Krait cores are around 30% more powerful than the current A9)
I must admit I'm a little dissapointed, I was expection A15 to double the performance of A9
We'll see the truth when the first gadgest go to market.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:09 1

40. Lawliet (Posts: 160; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


Well I think it should be, krait is a little bit weaker, as far as I know :)

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:11 1

42. ph00ny (Posts: 1268; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Once again. Qualcomm does not use ARM's Cortex designs and it's closer to a A9 than A15

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 09:04

46. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


correct. Lets call it A9.2. Since it cant even beat other A9 chips, its not worthy of being called much more.

Asif, your falling for Qualcomm's advertising which like many things you see on TV, isnt completely factual. They called it "A15 equivilant", not an "A15". However it is NEITHER.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:29

7. wsker (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)


Mr.McMahon started the video.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:36 1

8. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


I know why they make it dual core a15 instead quad core a15
Because if they make it quad they can't improve

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:40 9

10. Adithya7184 (Posts: 317; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)


Now, this is called Innovation....dear Apple, learn from Samsung rather suing them...!!!LOL!!!

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 05:15 3

17. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Agree, but it is more about ARM than Samsung. :)

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:41 2

35. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


its both. One supplies the base designs and requirements to be called A15, and the other tweaks the snot out of it to make it faster than anyone else.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:21

43. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


ARM creates whole CPU architecture and Samsung implements that CPU architecture into SoC, that's it. ;)

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:54 2

15. maryaaadil (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)


What about benchmarks............?

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 04:57 2

16. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Android ecosystem is far from ready for such screen resolutions.

It will make developers even less willing to bother with it.
Heck, just look what's going on with the latest MacBook pro.

They should stick to full hd and up to 10inch screens. It's enough and would make developing apps incomparably easier.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 06:03 3

21. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


To those who thumb down without the brains to formulate a decent reply, I ask - would you rather have a FULL HD tablet with plenty of supported apps that look great on it, or a pumped up screen with huge compatibility issues?

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:34 4

31. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Your question is out of place. Most people would like to have a pumped up screen WITH plenty of supported apps.
That Android ecosystem is not ready of such a resolution is just a personal opinion. That's why you got the thumbs down.
I personally think that someone has to be the first to put a higher resolution even if there are no apps for it. Then when there are devices with it the applications will come. If you don't start with the devices you'll never get the applications there (ask yourself: where there any applications for the iPad 3 resolution at first? NO).
Second: that the chip ALLOWS such a resolution doesn't mean that they are going to use it. They can use the SoC with a lower resolution too. So your claim makes about if Android is ready or not makes actually little sense.
Do you still wonder why you got the thumbs down?
For posting without thinking.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:36 3

32. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


you do realize that no apps natively supported the new ipad when it came out right? your barking out of both sides of your body.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:40 2

34. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


Also, most consumers couldnt tell the difference between the ipad2 and the ipad3 when looking at the screen.
So your pro-apple rant about resolution is even more flat.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:00

38. Nokia-Arte (banned) (Posts: 42; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


If Apple was smart and uped the ppi to 400, then u can tell a major difference! But they chose 250ppi.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:02

39. Nokia-Arte (banned) (Posts: 42; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


He was telling, talking the truth, wisely, but why the thumbs down everyone.....?

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 08:59 3

44. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


no he isnt actually
the diff between android and iOS is that ALL android apps have a native feature that allows them to auto adjust to any resolution as well as properly zoom if need to. How do you think that any app is compatible across the wide range of android devices and tablets? iOS has no such feature and each resolution has to be individually added by the developer.

Thats also why there is the false cry about "lacking android tablet apps" compared to iOS. Technically like 99% of all Android apps are already compatible because of that aforementioned feature. They dont need a special "for tablets" separate section/app like you have with iOS. One app does both tablets and phones. Like everything there is a +/-. Apps are almost always auto compatible, but not all apps take up good use of the larger screens. Good app devs will go in and have it redraw to take better use of higher resolutions, but that is up to the dev. With apple, since tablet apps are seperate from phone apps, they have to be designed for the larger screen in mind, which is why they mostly seem to look nicer. Of course, I have yet to run into too many android apps on my tablet that DONT take advantage of the higher resolutions. That was more of an initial launch issue.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 10:07 2

51. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)


hahah doublehammer I would step in, but it looks like you've got the situation handled

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 17:24

59. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Alright..glad to say, I stand corrected then :)

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 18:03 1

60. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


Absolutely. Glad to help. :)

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 04:44 1

64. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


now how comes you never are thankful whenever I try to give you correct information? That hurts me deep man... deep!

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 06:16 2

25. khmer (Posts: 95; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)


Exynos 5250 is 20 nm because the new internal 64 Gb memory chip is 20 nm and 2 Gb RAM are in used by Galaxy S3.

Apple will stay away from Samsung components in the future because Apple wanted to destroy Samsung phones and tablets by their crazy Patent Wars "the look and feel".

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:06 3

28. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)


Now this is what I call innovation, a company that makes something from their own hands, not bought and calling it their own *patenting *cough *Apple *cough, this is what I want to see from Apple, come on Apple, give us some originality like what Samsung is doing even it's just once *lol :)

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 07:50 1

36. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Galaxy S4.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 09:31 2

48. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This is a tech geek's dream come true.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 10:08

52. Nokia-Arte (banned) (Posts: 42; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Omg just imagine this on the S4, with Quad-core, withalong Quad-core
overclock 477mhz graphics.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 12:42 1

53. skymitch89 (Posts: 1308; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)


About time that they send out some news. They've been working on this for a while, and I'm actually a bit disappointed that they didn't include this in the US variant of the GS3 and the Galaxy Tab 2 7 & Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. It would be nice to see it come out in the Note 2.

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