Samsung COO to attend Stanford memorial on Steve Jobs Day in California
0. phoneArena 16 Oct 2011, 15:21 posted on
Despite the bitter legal battle between Apple and Samsung, the Korean based firm's COO and President Lee Jae-yong plans on attending a memorial being held at Stanford for the late Steve Jobs on what has been officially called "Steve Jobs Day" by California Governor Jerry Brown...
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1. snowgator (Posts: 3596; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Classy. Hope this is a step towards ending the bitterness between the two.
38. JosephC (Posts: 6; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
This is all sad because it is APPLE WHO COPIED SAMSUNG. DO YOUR RESEARCH people. Samsung had pads that look like ipad way before ipad even was conceived of. Heck I even saw the iphone looking device by sammy (straight down to the center circle button) waaaay before the iphone came out.
19. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
why dont u just leave and go to androidbitch.com for your tech news… if u dont recognize the value of what steve jobs has done (even if u hate apple beyond anything) then u truly have no intelligence level… and of course apple wants to be the only one! so does samsung htc google moto microsoft nokia and everyone! its not that hard to comprehend.. but then again… haha
28. jacko (unregistered)
steve jobs has done
what stole ideas lolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?f
i dont see other manufactures trying to ban other manufactures
and i say it again
i dont know him
or did anything for me
or gave me money
why should i care fair enough if he gave me a million bucks to save a loved one
or by me a house to live in no
nothing zip zero so why should i care
the only thing he did was take take take
3. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
It takes a company like Apple to stand up to a copyist like Samsung. The story goes that Apple approached Samsung about how Samsung had "crossed the line" but Samsung just thumbed their nose at Apple. Now Samsung reaps what it sows. Back then Apple and Samsung had a good to great relationship and now due to Samsung's bad judgement(s), Apple is taking billions of dollars of current and future business away from Samsung. You don't see Sony slavishly copying Apple. You don't see RIM slavishly copying Apple. You don't see Motorola slavishly copying Apple. You don't see HTC slavishly copying Apple. You don't see Acer or Asus slavishly copying Apple, etc. Neither is the case for Amazon. However, Samsung felt it was special and it had a right to rip off Apple's products.
The general rule in life is to follow the golden rule and when you made a mistake, you apology and make amends (android fanboys like sniggly and remixfa should take notes!). In Samsung's case, they felt like the golden rule didn't apply to them.
The records will show Apple has given Samsung numerous opportunities to apology and make amends but Samsung wouldn't do it. I hope Samsung wouldn't blow this opportunity. I hope Samsung stop digging its hole and gain wisdom to ask Apple for help.
It's no accident that Samsung lost in the Netherlands, in Germany, in the US. Samsung got caught. Samsung thought they could get away with it and the courts sided with Apple.
Here's what Samsung should do -- apologize and make amends, and settle the lawsuits. Terminate anyone that was in decision making process to slavish copy Apple. Adopt a policy to innovate and develop original products.
The bottomline, especially in the case of the iPad, none of Sony's, Motorola's, RIM's, ASUS', ACER's, or Amazon's tablets look like a slavishly copy of the iPad. In life you reap what you sow especially if Samsung can't sell it's Galaxy Tablet due to legal concerns.
4. dashak (unregistered)
Some nice, solid examples of how Samsung "slavishly copied" Apple would be good. Because all it looks like it mudslinging back and forth, Apple throwing the first stone and then trying to take shady actions, such as doctoring images of Samsung products to intentionally make them resemble Apple products, in an effort to get their way.
It seems like your aggression is pretty misguided.
5. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Good post ardent. Dashak there's lots of examples of Samsung copying Apple. You just have to have an open mind.
29. jacko (unregistered)
7. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
"solid examples of how Samsung "slavishly copied" Apple would be good."
That would be like reinventing the wheel -- go read the legal complaint if you are interested. I read parts of that complaint to get a sense of Apple's basis for their lawsuit. Here's a question to you: How many android fanboy read the legal complaint?
"Apple throwing the first stone"
No, Samsung tried to get away with something they knew they shouldn't be doing. Again, look at Sony, RIM, Motorola, HTC, ASUS, ACER, etc. -- different and all origin designs. Apple was trying to be nice about Samsung's bad behavior but Samsung was being a jejune d*ck that needed to be spanked in court. Now, Samsung has a reputation for copying other company's products, which is already known, but it is now documented in Europe, Australia, and in the US. These are legal precedents that can come back and bite Samsung in the ass in the future.
"such as doctoring images of Samsung products to intentionally make them resemble Apple products"
Those were photo-representations for ease of comparison. The Judge in the case had access to the real products. Don't you think it's funny when the US Judge asked Samsung's attorney to point out the iPad from the Galaxy, the Samsung attorney couldn't spot the difference.
8. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
"Not from this distance your honor". Classic!
30. jacko (unregistered)
lg should sue apple that what ur saying
18. NoFan (unregistered)
I challenge you to hold a small flat screen lcd tv vertically when its turned off. Tell someone to step back 20 feet and ask them if it looks like an iPad or a Samsung Galaxy Tab. --- It looks like both!
I guess LG, Samsung, Sony, and every other lcd manufacturer can start suing!
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
It was 10 feet. Why do android fanboys always lie?
25. CM1704 (unregistered)
can u differentiate LCD/LED/PLASMA TV set from 10 feet?
same goes to lame judgement by germany's court. if they can access real units why they didnt notice apple made up some of the images?
samsung do f**ked in copy-ing and so do apple. i owned both products from these 2 companies and enjoyed their products.
it js on all those country that prefer APPLE (germany, US and australia; it js back to classic thing whereby westerners always thought they are superior than asian)
34. Geeksarebest (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
They had the single button on the iPad and the SAMSUNG branded across the bottom and the lawyers still couldn't tell the difference.
24. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Sadly, you're only attacking Samsung because Apple is attacking Samsung.
If Apple were to sue other companies, you would continue to follow Apple's decision on the other company's wrong doing.
Why didn't Apple attacked HP on their TouchPad? I mean they practically have the same dimensions. Why haven't you attacked HP for their copies? Because Apple hasn't done so yet. You follow Apple, not your own opinions.
At least be able to back up your own reasonings.
39. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
porkguy, you are not making sense. I have a patent and I want to support people or companies when their IP is being ripped off. I am sticking to facts -- the fact that a number of courts have adjudicated that Samsung violated Apple IP.
This is not a debate about opinions, it's a debate about the need to protect IP -- again, I have a patent and numerous ideas I want to patent -- so this case has value to me.
I am just stating facts: it takes a company like Apple to stand up to a copyist like Samsung. The courts in Australia, Germany, and the US all have INDEPENDENTLY came to same conclusion about Samsung being a copyist. Again, these are FACTS, not opinions.
Porkguy, did you even bother to read Apple's legal complaint to understand Apple's legal standing? If you did, then you would have understand why Apple didn't go after HP.
23. Scuba_Steve (Posts: 79; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
So you'll just close your eyes and cover your ears whenever apple steals something?
This whole ideas of stealing and who owns what patents are really skewed. But you can't honestly believe Apple has done no wrong and has clean hands? I'm not saying Sam is wrong or right, I just want to hear from you *taco50 and ardent1* That Apple has f**ked up a couple of times as well.
40. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Okay, so why didn't Sony copy the iPad? If the US judge had raised a Sony tablet and the IPad from a distance of ten feet, could you not spot the Sony tablet?
Okay, suppose the judge held the RIM tablet at a distance of 10 feet, could you not discern the RIM product versus the iPad? We could do this for ASUS, HTC, etc.
So, I will throw the question back at you, what made Samsung so special that it thought it could get away with copying Apple?
If Sony didn't copy, if HTC did copy, etc, why did Samsung have to copy.
Lastly, Apple like any other company has won and lost cases on IP.
10. Twitter (unregistered)
@ ardent1: So you will teach Lee Jae-yong (aka son of Lee Kun-hee) how to do business. They said the same when Samsung started competing with Sony in the early 90s. Now see where is Samsung and where is Sony. Just for your little brain, here's some information:
There are things which many people don't know or simply don't care to know. They are investing in batteries for electronic cars with Bosch. They are expanding into solar cell panel business. Samsung BioLogics - a biopharmaceutical plant is already open. They are also investing 7.3B in LED lighting plant and also starting in medical devices business. Total investment in these new techs is more than 20B. They recently opened the Line-16 memory fabrication facility, the largest in the world. They are using it for 20nm yields for both SSD and DDR3's. AFAIK, there is nobody else in the same scale and efficiency level to match this line. They are already sampling Exynos 4212 (not 4210) to customers using 32nm with scaled-up GPU. Also recently released 1/2.3 S5K2P1 sensor with 16MP, BSI and capacity to take 8.3MP video at 60fps. For comparison, Full HD is about only 2MP, now imagine 8.3MP @ 60fps. That iphone 4s sensor is only 1/3.2 (40% smaller). They have 50Billion worth of contract from Shell. Their construction branch (Samsung C&T) has made some of the tallest buildings in the world - Petronas Towers, Burj Khalifa, Taipei 101. Petronas was once the tallest, then it overtaken by Taipei 101 and now the tallest is Burj. So, the world's 3 tallest buildings was made by this company. I can go on for ever about other businesses like shipping, display, luxury hotels etc., It's a chaebol (arguably world's largest) consisting of 83 different companies. Family control is guaranteed by a complex web of cross-shareholdings. The share they have in the market are just for show. Nobody can EVER take ownership of this companies. Unless, they themselves decide to sell. I am sure you would not know that they sold their HDD division to Seagate for 1.4 billion. They kept the SSD with themselves. They know where the future is heading. EMC is now using Samsung SSD in their majority of enterprise hardware (STEC being the other supplier). But I am sure you have no idea about VMAX/VNX/CLARiiON/Celerra etc.,
Don't try to act as if Samsung is surviving on Apple's money. Lots of companies need display, memory, NAND etc., There is NONE who can make it more efficiently than Samsung. They had invested heavily initially and they have the economics of scale that others don't have. Nobody else is also giving proper yield at 20nm process. Do you know about AMD's 32nm yield and manufacturing issues at Globalfoundries? There are hardly any company which can make such efficient and cost-effective manner as Samsung. Check this:http://gigaom.com/2011/10/06/s
11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Great only thing all these stuff has nothing to do with the situation between Apple and Samsung.
Another fandroid tactic. Take the argument to left field.
26. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
No he's just trying to let the arrogant people know Samsung doesn't need Apple.
Samsung did fine on its own and will continue to do so with or without Apple.
Samsung Electronics is still the world's largest technology company.
They have shipbuilders, engineering, life insurance, a theme park, their own agency, and hotel. Seriously, Apple looks like nothing compared to Samsung.
27. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And that has nothing to do with Samsung copying Apple
46. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Sony's problems were due to mismanagement. Apple has mismanagement problems before.
What the samsung fanboys won't tell you is how it was Apple that funded some of Sumsung's production capacity.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you really are an idiot. just saying. . and an idiot that doesnt know how to let go of a grudge at that.
41. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Let me get this right -- remixfa gets tired of me correcting his posts, so he retiates against me due to his own grudge, and now he claims I have a grudge. Wow.
Here is my advice remixfa, don't flame people because they will flame back. People are here to take here crap.
Remember, you tried to educate people about how RD expenses belong in gross margins due to your grudge!
20. belovedson (Posts: 988; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
ardent and to anyone who can read
read the rolling stones article pertaining to steve jobs and come back on here and write a pretty little article report on what you have found out.
43. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
After you send me a check. Btw, I already read those articles.
6. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Samsung loses their bid to ban iPhone in Europe over 3G patents. Yet another win for Apple against Samsung.
31. jacko (unregistered)
apple wins on patents
samsung loses on patents they own
sounds fishy to me
i guess u can buy judges