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Safari the dominant mobile browser in 2012, IE tops for the desktop

0. phoneArena 03 Jan 2013, 04:21 posted on

Safari and Internet Explorer finished 2012 with remarkable marketshares throughout the year...

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posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:35 8

1. ArsTechnicaStupidio (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


For some reason I trust StatCounter more than this Ars Technica
gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-201112-2012​12

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:24 3

16. darkkjedii (Posts: 11174; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Excuse excuses excuses

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 14:50

29. The.Truth.IS.Out.There (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


Read this:

readwrite.com/2013/01/03/googles-ftc-settlement-is​-an-epic-fail-for-microsoft

quote:
The Shadow War

For years Microsoft has devoted massive resources and energy to waging a sneaky shadow war against Google, fielding an army of lobbyists and front groups that exist almost completely to spread anti-Google propaganda, including ICOMP.org, Association for Competitive Technology, FairSearch and SafeGov

They call themselves “industry groups,” and they have lots of members, but they’re basically Microsoft fronts devoted to hating on Google. Take a glance through ICOMP’s newsroom and Voices” section and white papers and ICOMP in the News section. It’s pretty much all Google, all the time — and all negative. It’s a whole website devoted to bashing Google, and frankly it’s kind of incredible, in a twisted way.

...........
click on the link for the full EVIL

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:06

37. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Yahoo article: "Google & Facebook Set Company Records for Lobbyist Spending"

LET ME QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE:

"Google increased its lobbyist spending from $1.48 million in the first quarter to $2.06 million in the second. For the first time, the company is spending more on lobbyists than Microsoft."

http://news.yahoo.com/google-facebook-set-company-records-lobbyist-spending-175837556.html

What was that you were saying about Microsoft again..? You know, everytime I see you post that bulls**t blog link from that bulls**t unreliable hobby tech blog post (filled with personal opinions) I will re-post my link too. Just like You do. Funny, huh?

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:24

38. rcwfox2002 (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


Depends what the company is fighting for Google and Microsoft do not see eye to eye on internet openness. So if Google is fighting for open internet and Microsoft is fighting for a regulated internet. I wouldn't be so quick to call Google evil. I mean what company creates software and gives it away. Microsoft and Apple are very greedy companies and I have never seen anything good come from greed.

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 07:28

39. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


What Google publicly says is one thing, what they don't say is another thing. And who knows what that is? It's the same for all companies.

I tell you what company creates software and give it away. None. Google don't just give stuff away for free, they run a business. Business don't give stuff away unless they are sure to cash in on it somewhere else. In Google's case by effectively eliminating competitors and recouping the costs of production through deep and rigid collecting of user information to use in their advertising business. Their main income.

Google owns the Google products, you don't own them. Google have not given them to you. And there's no need to start talking about Android, because Google only made it "freely available" in order to gain instant marketshare so they could cash in on the connected Google services.

But what you get with your "free services" is the exact same thing as what Microsoft is looking for - a wasteland without comeptitors. Because face it - you've already said it yourself - who can compete with something that comes at no purchase cost? None. And that's exactly how Google likes it, because in the end - only Google (and their customers) are the beneficiaries. The competition is being crushed beneath them, effectively giving Google the absolute monopoly they secretely crave for.

Because I hope you understand that Google is not in this for fun, they are in this to make money. And the less competitors you have, the more money you make. Ask Microsoft.

So, what is really the difference in all this? That people prefer stuff as long as they don't have to purchase them, and that no Google lover cares about choice and competitors since they comfortably favor Google to be the one in monopoly, even though it boils down to the exact same thing as if Microsoft is in monopoly (or any other company)..?

It's not the business methods that is the danger here, which everyone seem to think, it's the result of them. A business monopoly is greedy and awful no matter who sits on top, because they all function the same way - to keep competition down and to bring record profits to the shareholders and inverstors. The real owners of Google. And they are not you, and not me.

Microsoft sure has not done everything right in their line of business tactics, but I'm amazed that so many people are blind to the fact that Google is silently sneaking up to conquer all competition and make themselves the new Microsoft. Can you imagine how many companies have gone under because of the inability to stay afloat in the competition of Google's services being offered for free? We all like free things, but how do you like in the end having one company in control of the only services available? Once it was Microsoft - next up: Google.

You should look in the history books. A cruel king keeps the peasants from revolting by having them entertained. But in the end, only one person is king, the rest remain as peasants. You're witnessing it.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:40 11

2. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


nonsense, lies, real usage:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201112-201212
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-201112-201212

probably paid by Google haters....time to accept reality :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:48 5

8. PurrPurr (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


That must make you paid by Google?

Anyway, Statcounter uses a flawed method for counting web traffic, a flaw which Chrome thrives upon.

pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404714,00.asp

From the source:

"The real problem is just what StatCounter counts: pre-rendered Web pages that the user never saw. When a Chrome user types in a Google search, Chrome pre-loads an invisible tab in the background. StatCounter still counts this as a page view. By comparison, Net Applications removes these artificial results."

That is why the results differ so much throughout all the statistics depending on source.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 06:38 2

12. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


"pre-rendered Web pages that the user never saw"
you lie........it is not true
and if you think a little, you can see that in the past is the trend the same (simply steadily growing) and then Chrome didn't pre-rendered pages ;)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:00 3

13. PurrPurr (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


Steadily growing and beating IE is not the same thing. Bing has also been steadily growing for years, has it then by your definition beaten Google? That sounds great, congrats to Microsoft!

And if what I (they) said was a lie, at least give me a link to prove it :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 23:31

34. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


I presume you are able just to write, not read....so read the statcounter properly....you will find you lie :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:23 4

14. darkkjedii (Posts: 11174; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It's funny that anytime apple wins, or leads a catagorey certain members of android nation quickly jump on the article, and refute it, claim the site can't b trusted and what not. When android wins, or leads a catagorey it's all good though. Just deal with the fact that iOS is super strong n the mobile world, it's an inhouse OS, but very stable and good to use. I use both android, and iOS on a regular basis, and both are simply awesome, and both have their hiccups and hangups that I don't like. Overall they r the top 2 for a reason. Stop being a hater, and just deal with the fact that android is great but not perfect, iOS is great but not perfect. People use. And love both on the regular... I know I do.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 12:06 2

21. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


well, I like to the see truth in things, and when a story or stat is flawed, it is nice that somebody has a brain to point it out....typical iphone user just goes with the flow and goes along with what they are told.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 23:32

35. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


yes...they are very easily influenced....

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:41 3

3. ArsTechnicaStupidio (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


I was wondering if Ars Technica were lowering (payed by MS) their status to something like Pyramid Analyst who claimed that WP will have 30% market share in 2013.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:51 1

9. PurrPurr (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


You clearly have never visited or read Ars Technica. They are far more reputable and serious than PhoneArena. They have Real journalists, not these hobby tech bloggers.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:42 4

4. ArsTechnicaStupidio (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


I really hope the author of this article would put disclaimer in their post..

something like this:
"... that's according to ars technica, but the number really look different in statcounter"

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:00 5

5. wendygarett (unregistered)


I'm a Firefox user :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:05 4

6. roscuthiii (Posts: 1796; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I'd prefer not to see anymore of these mobile browser market share articles until they can account for "desktop mode".

In my household there are 4 Android devices that show up as Safari 90% of the time, the other 10% of time showing up as Opera Mobile or Mini when I get a wild hair and go back to giving that a try. Caveats like this render these articles meaningless.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:32 2

7. eDiesel (Posts: 141; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)


The thought of safari makes my wanna vomit.
AOSP browser with flash all the way.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 06:01 2

10. Shino (Posts: 195; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


No surprise at all. Everything is normal with this statistics.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 06:08 2

11. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


When i think of all the ie jokes and how chrome is better, lol... Microsoft shows everyone how its done... like a boss

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:23 3

15. darkkjedii (Posts: 11174; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It's funny that anytime apple wins, or leads a catagorey certain members of android nation quickly jump on the article, and refute it, claim the site can't b trusted and what not. When android wins, or leads a catagorey it's all good though. Just deal with the fact that iOS is super strong n the mobile world, it's an inhouse OS, but very stable and good to use. I use both android, and iOS on a regular basis, and both are simply awesome, and both have their hiccups and hangups that I don't like. Overall they r the top 2 for a reason. Stop being a hater, and just deal with the fact that android is great but not perfect, iOS is great but not perfect. People use. And love both on the regular... I know I do.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 12:08 1

22. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


you keep telling us this...repeating it in hopes of being believed....

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 12:47

23. darkkjedii (Posts: 11174; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I can care less what u believe. I love my iPhone its a sweet device. Believe that.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 13:22

24. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


ok, so, then do not fret over all of this on phonearena as it gets old after awhile. My wife has an iphone, she has had the 4S for a year. She tells me the camera is not as good as it used to be, and I agree as it has issues adjusting to light. I believe it is a good mid ranged phone, just too small for me. My kids love their 32GB ipods and their original ipad is popular for game playing, such as the Hobbit or Skylanders.
The point being is that we constantly here reports about mobile traffic and everyone, who knows a little something, knows that these reports are flawed, to some degree. Personally, I do not see why Phonearena keeps reporting this irrevelant junk, but that is phonearena. BTW, you may want to start using chrome on your PC or MAC (will chrome work on MAC), as phonearena allows 13 companies to track what you are doing. With chrome, they get all blocked.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 13:49

26. opensourceftw (banned) (Posts: 148; Member since: 01 Jan 2013)


It's "couldn't care less". How so many people misuse this phrase I will never understand.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 16:46

30. darkkjedii (Posts: 11174; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Yep you're rite

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 11:33

17. mas11 (Posts: 1028; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


That's pretty sad, I thought chrome overtook IE months ago.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 14:29

28. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


IE leading the traffic for desktop browser chart is no brainer, just like the users whom using it.

What surprise me how Firefox still have supporters after all of the lackluster "improvement" over the past 4 years.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 11:44

18. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1357; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Not trying to start anything, but one thing that may be corrupting this data is how they recognize an android browser set to mobile rather than desktop. When I tried it on a few phones in the past, if I had it set to desktop mode (ie just like on a desktop PC's browser with no mobile versions of a website and full flash) it recognized it as an android browser. When it was set to mobile (this time viewing mobile versions of websites where available) it said I was using a Safari browser.

The problem is your average consumer doesn't get in and tinker with mobile vs. desktop settings, so in that case it maybe skewing the data in favor of Safari. But that's assuming that they're still using the same setup as they had previously. The only way would be to test it out and see if that flaw still occurs.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 12:03 2

19. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Why would anyone use Internet Explorer, when Firefox and Chrome are much more secure and more efficient to use?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 12:04 1

20. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I have used the safari browser and it is better on an ipad due to its large screen, but slower loading than chrome on a high end android phone or tablet.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 13:39

25. aco96 (Posts: 192; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


Internet Explorer 10 rocks. Can't wait to buy WP 8 device :D

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 13:50

27. opensourceftw (banned) (Posts: 148; Member since: 01 Jan 2013)


Safari is hands down the biggest POS browser I have ever used, without a doubt.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 19:36

31. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6429; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


I'm happy with my FIRE FOX THANKS. I need and want flash to play back videos and play flash games on the web browser. I don't want Apple to control what i want to watch. And I hardly even use Internet Explorer.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 20:08

32. jaoowolabi (Posts: 201; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


Chrome!

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 22:33

33. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


haha, obviously safari would win.. 30% of android shows up as safari, the other 40% shows as desktop browser, and 30% more shows as any other browsers, the rest then shows up as android browsers..

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 01:41 1

36. mcgrd (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)


i used IE to download firefox then made firefox my default browser =)

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 06:19

40. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 635; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


I dont believe this..!!!! The sale for Android is much more than Iphones. How can this be true? Are they counting Safari as 5 points for each user & Android as 1/2 points for each user.???? Clearly a higher no. of android phones means higher no. of Android browsers.
This is the limit of being biased towards Iphone.!!!!!
On desktops IE is ruling, but the topic of the article is "Safari....".. Totally being biased to Iphone....!!!!!

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