Rumors say Verizon laying off sales reps
1. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
"major layoffs are occurring the Gulf Coast region" Read before you publish phonearena....
2. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
Well...that was a surprise. I'm shocked and not in a good way...
4. *HOVA* (Posts: 564; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
I'll be nice this time but you know what's up..
8. *HOVA* (Posts: 564; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Yea, remove the VZW wang fanboys. It's funny you have no problem arguing with me, but the second I argue with you I'm starved for attention, how convenient.
16. Legion (Posts: 397; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
No, I am saying you are starved for attention becuase the Spartan made a perfectly legitimate comment and you immediatly start flaming him simply becuase you dont like him from a previous thread, which makes you starved for attention.
17. vzw fanman (Posts: 1971; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
circuit city has to screw up everything for verizon!!
29. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
Touche, Hova, Touche. Def not going to fight you on this one, and thank you for being nice. Honestly, he's not really trying to argue here, he just stated a point. (Did I just back Hova? Whoa...)
34. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)
And I thought that I made a bad choice moving my employment to AT&T (with the recent strike threats the union has been throwing around), I guess the entire industry is starting to shake in this economy. I suppose no regrets is the moral of this story. I really hope this economy gets better. My wife and I have been hanging by a thread for a long time now and it would be nice to have some security.
42. *HOVA* (Posts: 564; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
It's all good. I never really mean to start anything, sometimes things just get outa hand quick here! lol, but I can't help but try and back myself up. I hope Verizon keeps rockin otherwise who would I have to argue with here??...
3. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Well folks this is not a rumor. I along with a few other people I know have been laid off. It is pretty sneaky how they do it though. I won't go into detail but how they are doing it is totally ridiculous. It's such a tough time. I haven't had to look for a job in over 3 years and now I don't know how to even start. Again I have just confirmed the rumor.
11. SellPhones82 (Posts: 488; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
@dphins82...did you work at a CC or in the Gulf Coast area? I'm not suprised that layoffs occured do to all the VZW people at CC since it would be difficult to tran all of them to new stores and over staff them. With CC and adding Alltel you have to know there are going to be too many people and not enough openings to fill them with regardless of the economy.
18. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I was in a store then a CC and then BJ's. When I went to our corporate offices where these layoffs were taking place I was there with people who worked in a store as reps and an assistant manager.
39. MetroPCSGorilla (Posts: 8; Member since: 11 Feb 2009)
I'm not sure about the Gulf Coast but that's not the case in the Midwest. Those who VZW employees are being added to standalone stores and not left without a job
5. phoneguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 08 Jan 2009)
at lease sprint is keeping their sales proffessionals >>>>>
25. The Godfather (unregistered)
since when did sprint have ANY professionals?
35. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)
HAHAHA, that is the funniest shit I have ever read in a reply! I think Bill Engvall said "The funniest jokes aren't made up, they're real stories". As a consumer and an experienced sales rep in the wireless industry, I would NEVER choose sprint as an employer or a phone carrier. Their reception is piss-poor, almost as bad as their customer service and they underpay their reps. Plus, you shouldn't make a mockery of the people who are losing their jobs in this economy.
37. phoneguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 08 Jan 2009)
First, before you make any snide comments I have to say that VZW has a horse shit culture. I was a top performing rep for them and the fact that I didn't kiss ass kept me from making even a lateral move to a Higher producing store. I worked in a top ten volume kiosk in the country and was advanced data certified for 4 consecutive quarters. I know the ball game. All I was saying is that of all people to be cut, it is horses hit that they are cutting their sales professionals. I want to meet you face to face and see how well you really sell..... or should I say take people to the cleaner. If you new anything you would know that although Sprint has had a rocky past they are climbing out of a whole that past management left them with, similar to the hole the enitre country is in due to the last guy...... Get informed oh and btw spend the next six years pining away for that next promotion that you will never get no matter how good you are godfather, because unless you kiss some big red a** you aren't going anywhere. I have never in my life seen people in management that have no business in management, like I have seen at Big Red.
44. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
No offense, but reading your reaction was like reading a first grade assignment. Spell check is your friend man!
47. t-won50 (Posts: 25; Member since: 18 Jan 2009)
at least sprint is not planning a strike any time soon sucks to be u lessthanzack soon to be lessthanzackonstrike
49. *HOVA* (Posts: 564; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Yea who needs strikes when Sprint is just laying people off. Not sure where you work but if you're a Sprint employee you should know that.
50. t-won50 (Posts: 25; Member since: 18 Jan 2009)
i do work for sprint and i know that they are laying off people not in the retail side of things though so i have nothing to worry about working in a high volume store its the coustomer care people that have to worry but they worthless anyways we always have to fix there problems in the store
55. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)
t-won, you are an idiot. First of all, it just isn't classy to celebrate lay-offs and strikes. Second, I am not sure where the need for personal strikes comes in to play. All I said was that the reply was funny and that Sprint has garbage cust care and reception. I am not a fanboy, just a Sprint anti-fanboy. I went to training with a former sprint rep who was worse than most of the car salesmen that have helped me. He had no real product knowledge, was pushy, and seemed really shady. After visiting a couple of your stores, I have to say that I get that same feeling from a large amount of sprint reps. And FINALLY, you have no idea if we are going to strike or not. I don't even think you know what a union is, but I am just judging that off of the fact that you never use punctuation or capital letters. Just in case you do, though, the CWA has stopped the clock with AT&T for 30 days past the date of contract expiration. So hopefully we won't even strike.
9. chupum (Posts: 115; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I'm sad to hear that even the #1 provider is having to lay off its employees. I guess somewhere I had hope that those employees might have been safer off than the rest due to its high standing... I hope that those who are laid off transition to a better future. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL.
10. The Doc (Posts: 122; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
This is exactly why I was empathetic with At&t employees. It can happen to anyone. I hope I don't lose my job here at VZW but sometimes it's out of your control. Make the most of your oppurtunity cause just like Joni Mitchell says, "You don't know what you've 'til it's gone"!
12. Fan_of_Fanboys (Posts: 101; Member since: 13 Nov 2008)
I read, I think BGR, that the people they are laying off (at least initially) are the ones who are low performing or who receive consistant disciplinary action. If that is true, and you factor in the Alltel employess they will be merging into the VZW systems, it makes sense for VZW to trim its employees that contribute the least to make room for Alltel employees that contribute more. Add in the economy and thats three respectable reasons. Again only if it is true who they are firing. And I am nto for anyone losing their job who doesnt deserve it. Fanboyism aside that alwasy sucks. Just a theory.
13. bildo4ildo (Posts: 3; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
It was a chance for VZW to weed out the Emps that they did not want. Luckliy i was kept alot of my co-workers were not, if you perform if you meet your numbers you should not be worried. We were all stressed for about 3 weeks just finding out this week all i can say is that i am glad that i still have a position, others were not so lucky.
19. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Like you said if you hit your numbers but then why was I let go. I was hitting and exceeding my numbers every month and was on no disciplinary action at all. Try to figure that one out.
20. bildo4ildo (Posts: 3; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I cant man i really cant. This was just there chance to get rid of people they did not want i suppose i am very sorry to hear a fellow rep get let go. Alot of people i went to training with got let go as well it just sucks man all i can say is at least you have the expirence in cell service. I wish ya the best of luck man
14. trentsinmypants (Posts: 312; Member since: 29 Jan 2009)
heres hoping that Remix gets laid off! :D
21. ddripp (Posts: 63; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
vzwfanman, u're such an idiot A.K.A stupid fanboyz. why the * u blaming circuit city for your # 1 carrier layoffs? u should blame ur former stupid president name GEORGE W BUSH. it was under his watch for 8 years that got us into that big mess... NOT circuit city. and not to mention him and his brother JEFF BUSH stole the election from AL GORE in 2001. so get a life u freaking AMERICAN!
23. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Well first off it's Jeb not Jeff...LOL. You are 100% right. I can't sit here and blame Circuit City closing for my lay off from VZW. It is our former dumb president's fault for this. I am not to blame and neither are the rest of the millions of americans getting laid off.
26. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Actually ddripp, go back and look over the course of the last eight years of the Bush admin and you'll see that pretty consistently the way Bush ran the country and the economy, thousands of jobs were added EVERY month! What started all this was the fact that liberal morons like you in Washington thought it would be a good idea to LOWER the standards set in place for loans, and as a direct result of that, banks started getting the shaft with all these faulty loans they were giving out at the request of the liberals in the House and Senate! And since the banks started suffering, the entire system has suffered! The banking system is the ENTIRE backbone of our economy! Take an effing economics class for God's sake! And now your precious Obama is worsening things with this lousy stimulus bill filled with all kinds of ludicrous spending! GET YOUR EFFIN FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU GO OFF AND PROVE HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE! All that aside I'm very sorry to hear about people losing their jobs. I wish any and all of you the best of luck! I know you can all put your experience to work for you and provide great service in another sector of our economy! Catch you on the flipside!
28. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
Actually, just a suggestion, look into the twilight of the Clinton admin, and you'll see the bill that allowed people to take out multiple morgatages and such, which is what originally caused the beginning of the credit crunch (not the only reason, but a big nasty mean one.) was passed shortly before Bush took office. Just a note.
31. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
VZW Laid off it's lowest performing reps, and it's George Dubya's fault that you were in that category. Major bummer man. When this mess is cleaned up, and unemployment is back down, maybe you could switch to blaming the weather?
38. phoneguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 08 Jan 2009)
your are a tool....... The liberals didn't put a gun to the banks head and tell them to give people money that had no business having it. It is all based on greed whether you are left or right. Greed Greed Greed. Mortgage companies didnt care as long as they got theirs and people were straight up lied too, and the government aka GOP were making sure that their pockets were full so their interests were protected. Do you think its ok that all of these so called conservative banks are asking for bailout money to make sure that their personal lives are taken care of before the interest of their company..... * them its my money your money not theirs but go ahead feed into it.. Let them take all your hard earned tax dollars and buy another corporate jet... Take some business classes and maybe a political science class or two and stop listening to what your daddy told you at the dinner table. THINK FOR YOURSELF.... You obviously have no clue as to how government works. You sir are a moron
40. MetroPCSGorilla (Posts: 8; Member since: 11 Feb 2009)
Drugs...sex...politics...and cell phones. Gotta love Phonearena.com
45. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
Oh, you're dude from engadget who put that Lowell needs his private jet! Your post was rather humorous.
46. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
@ phoneguy: I've taken plenty of biz classes and political science classes and economics classes! NO I don't think we should be giving bail out money to the likes of big corporations that have pissed their resources away for their own greedy "needs"! It makes me want to vomit @ the fact that big corporations have taken bail out money and used it for frivolous things like company trips and whatnot. If I had my way, all these companies would go under, especially the U.S. automakers with their whining and crying about the state of their companies! IMO our free market has its ups and downs and when your company is down because you've spent frivolously and haven't kept the best interest of your company at heart, then you deserve to go under like anyone else! However it is a fact that when the Dems took the House and Senate majority, that's when our economy started taking a dive. You really can't be that naive to say it was all greed that propelled the mortgage companies to give out bad loans. Guess what? When people default on their loans banks lose money! Why the FUCK would any bank look at someone with poor credit history and give them a loan for a house, etc that they couldn't afford on their income?! It makes no sense! IT IS THE BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS THAT LOWERED LOAN STANDARDS FOR BANKS SO "EVERYONE COULD OWN A HOME"! GO LOOK LOOK UP THE FUCKING CONGRESSIONAL RECORDS! You can't tell me that you're really stupid to think our gov't has absolutely NO say in how U.S. businesses are run! Otherwise Microsoft would be ruling the computer world with it's monopoly that was SHUT DOWN BY THE U.S. GOV'T! THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU GO PRETENDING TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!
59. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
...Typical Liberal Response... LMAO!!!
22. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Wow. This guy wants to blame Circuit City's poor performance on the president? Circuit City was a shit company that got the axe for thinking the same way you do, blaming all it's problems on the economic downturn, instead of focusing on business. Shit president or not, Circuit was doomed, and it got it's self into this mess. Go ask Best Buy if they plan on driving themselves into the ground and saying, '*! Bush made us suck at running a business! What silly Americans we are!'
57. LessthanZach (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Apr 2008)
Thanks! Not that you gave a shit prior to my reply anyways. I'm just saying that you have to look at people's comments and instead of oversimplifying what they have said, look at what they are ACTUALLY saying. What was said was that it is an even mix of poor business practice and economic downturn. Plus, who the **** really gives a shit what started it? What the fuck are YOU going to do about it? What the * am I going to do about the strike if it happens? NOTHING! Bitch, moan, apply for another job, suck dick for money/coke. That's about all you can do. I don't want to start shit with "Big Red", but fuck man, if you can dish shit talk out (with out much justification I might add) you should be able to take a small and simple reply. BTW, do you work for VZW? Just asking, I worked for them for a little over 2 years. I just switched to AT&T 3 months ago.
24. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Granted there were mistakes that were made by CC but ultimately it was the economic downturn that killed them in the end. Best Buy's stock hasn't risen at all. The only recession proof industries are medical and legal among a few others.
30. The Spartan (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
CC made some incredibly stupid mistakes in the last few years. For example, attempting to cut cost back in 07 by laying off all the senior sales reps who had the knowledge and appropriate skills to make big sales. That's what started it. Then you replace your well trained, veteran work force with 16 year old kids who don't give a flying crap about if you make the sale since they'll still be making 8 dollars a hour whether or not you buy the big screen with the mega service plan. The upper management of CC in the twilight years are chalk full of tards, and due to their incompetence combined with a ruthless and horrible economic climate caused the loss of thousands of jobs. It's sad to see so many lose their jobs and see an electronics giant wither and die, and it's amazing (not in a good way) to see how it negatively affects business partners who are strong financially such as VZW. Sad man, really sad.
27. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Ok maybe you are right but how come bush didn't step in sooner. Had he done that it would be different.
32. tflex (Posts: 146; Member since: 24 Oct 2008)
well since we are talking politics and not phones, we have to realize that our current recession wasnt just bush's fault although he did not make the best decisions and could care less about you or i while hes takin vacations for the rest of his life with a** loads of money and we are trying to make a month's rent. it was a bunch of factors that caused this mess, primarily greed. as for vzw layoffs, it was bound to happen. the last thing we want to hear is more people losing jobs, and all we heard when att and sprint announced their layoffs was vzw fanboys making idiot comments like it wouldnt happen to them. no one major corporation is immune as stated before to this crisis.
33. tflex (Posts: 146; Member since: 24 Oct 2008)
....and the medical field isnt recession proof dphins82, hospitals nationwide are hurting financially. but i understand the point u were trying to make as there will always be a demand for medical professionals.
41. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
Thats what I was trying to say. There will always be a need for a doctor or a lawyer.
51. HR Guy (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Feb 2009)
Guys, Not to change the topic at hand but if anyone who was laid off needs assistance in any way and worked in the Northeast, please feel free to reach out to me and I will be happy to help out in any way I possibly can. I am committed to making sure everyone receives their severance, bonuses, 401k, etc. Please reach out to me.
53. HR Guy (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Feb 2009)
Yes, I will be happy to be anyones point of contact if you need help with anything related.
56. dphins82 (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
and how do you suppose i reach out to you hr guy and how do I know you work for vzw hr.
54. brikz4real (Posts: 173; Member since: 24 Dec 2008)
I see a lot comments regarding all the layoffs going on with Big Red. I've seen everything from Bush's fault, CC's fault, the bad economy, and so on. Needless to say that while some of this may be true, we are overlooking something that, ironically, is right in front of our faces..... the over-saturation of mobile phones on the market. Think about it, what do you see CONSTANTLY on PhoneArena? The release of yet another damn phone. There are so many versions of the same thing constantly hitting the market. Over 90% of the phones on the market do the exact same thing... touch screen, MP3 player, web access, megapixel cameras, and so on ( the entire Nokia N series is just overkill ). Here is the burning question: Why? Cell companies pay a good penny to get these phones, subsidize them, and then have them sent back to the warehouse due to problems that should have been worked out before they sold them. Any VZW, AT&T, Sprint, or any other company employee can verify my statement by looking at all the models on display that hardly, if EVER, sell. It's too much....yet they keep releasing new devices. Most of the models aren't really any different from the handset they're replacing ( LG's 5000 line of VZW, for example ), and there is too much comp between opposing vendors who release phones that do the same thing but simply have a different look ( Sam. Gleam, Moto 755, Nokia 6205, etc. ). Some have even taken a step BACKWARDS ( the "3G-less" mp3 playing Samsung Sway ). More and more and more phones are being pumped into the cell system and not enough are leaving the shelves before they are rendered OBSOLETE in about seven months. It's simply "survival of the fittest" ( kudos to the Voyager, iPhone, Instinct, BB Curve, etc. ). Verizon may be GREAT but they are not IMMUNE to what's going on in the economy. A friend of mine just lost her job ( over here in the Northeast area ) due to cutbacks ... and she wasn't even a sales rep... she was a Customer Service Rep. Wow! Good pay, benefits, comfort..... GONE !!!! JUST LIKE THAT !!!! Too many things factor into all these layoffs happening. Let's just hope and pray that they can be overcome.