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Rumor talks Nexus 5 price, and possible Nexus 4 LTE model

0. phoneArena 15 Oct 2013, 09:05 posted on

Remember back when Google redesigned the Nexus landing page and left open some room for speculation by labeling the phone section with the plural "phones"? We had hoped against hope that little clue would mean two new Nexus handsets this year, and a new rumor has an interesting theory on what may be accompanying the new Nexus 5 this year...

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posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:07 4

1. cezarepc (Posts: 718; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Fully functioning LTE Nexus 4.. sweet.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:14 5

11. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Another baseless rumor called news to generate web traffic brought to you by phonearena

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:24 5

13. Gsizzle (Posts: 39; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


How do you find this information useless? The pricing leak is definitely essential to those who are saving up for to buy the device.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:50 4

21. jellmoo (Posts: 1897; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


For the love of... It's called a rumour for a reason. It's tip based speculation. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong. It's clearly labeled as a rumour, so nobody will mistake it for hard news.

They wrote a bloody article about this only a couple of days ago. It's one of the reasons people read tech blogs. Are you seriously suggesting that they stop publishing rumours altogether?

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 14:23

35. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)


it better have some badass specs bump up or a cheap ass price other wise why wouldnt i get a n5

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 16:33

47. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Unverifiable rumors should not be published. Its disgraceful of a media outlet to publish every half baked second hand rumor they come across. Clearly, phonearena doesn't care.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 17:12 1

51. jeck77 (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)


Clearly, you care about rumors, otherwise you wouldn't have clicked on an article with the word "Rumor" right in the headline.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 17:29

53. jellmoo (Posts: 1897; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


So then you never wish to hear anything about upcoming devices? You never want to hear tidbits of information? None of these things are ever 100% verifiable. Some of them pan out, some do not.

If you find it insulting and disgraceful, might I suggest not clicking on articles that have the word "Rumour" in the title.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 17:48

56. ChazzMatt (Posts: 51; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


This article is complete hogwash. There will be no "Nexus 4 LTE" . Google only releases one model per year, to influence design. The Nexus 5 is 2013 Nexus phone, there will be no others. It's unlocked, has multiple LTE bands, CDMA, HSPA+ is 4.96" with full HD 1080p, 2GB RAM, 8PM OIS camera and comes with Snapdragon 800. PLUS, it's a hair smaller than the Nexus 4. Yeah, they packed a 4.96" 1080p display into a case a hair smaller than last year's 4.7" 720 Nexus 4.

And it will be PRICED close to last year's Nexus 4.

If they re-released a Nexus 4, even with LTE, it would LOSE in all the benchmark tests as CPUs have moved on. Google is not going to do something stupid like that. They have a winner with the LG G2-based Nexus 5 -- and they will be going full throttle with that.

Google looks forward, they don't look back. There will not be a "runner up" Nexus, it will only be the gen5 Nexus 5.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 17:49

57. ChazzMatt (Posts: 51; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


This article is complete hogwash. There will be no "Nexus 4 LTE" . Google only releases one model per year, to influence design. The Nexus 5 is 2013 Nexus phone, there will be no others. It's unlocked, has multiple LTE bands, CDMA, HSPA+ is 4.96" with full HD 1080p, 2GB RAM, 8PM OIS camera and comes with Snapdragon 800. PLUS, it's a hair smaller than the Nexus 4. Yeah, they packed a 4.96" 1080p display into a case a hair smaller than last year's 4.7" 720 Nexus 4.

And it will be PRICED close to last year's Nexus 4.

If they re-released a Nexus 4, even with LTE, it would LOSE in all the benchmark tests as CPUs have moved on. Google is not going to do something stupid like that. They have a winner with the LG G2-based Nexus 5 -- and they will be going full throttle with that.

Google looks forward, they don't look back. There will not be a "runner up" Nexus, it will only be the gen5 Nexus 5.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:08 2

2. nexusdude (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


Long live the Mako!

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:11 6

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Nexus + LTE + reasonable price = tech lover's dream come true.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:12 1

4. jackwins (Posts: 21; Member since: 07 Oct 2010)


WHEN IS THIS DEVICE COMING OUT!?!?! I WANT IT!!!

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:24 2

7. scriptwriter (Posts: 396; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


Nobody knows. No press invites have been received for the launch. This is why everybody is going mad with excitement.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:22 2

5. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I think the rumor is ridiculous.
Why would they have been selling the Nexus 4 at $199 amd $249 then? That would mean a perception on the consumer of a $50 increase for the same phone in all areas with no 4G wich is the mayority of the world.
The rumor would make sense is the Nexus 4 LTE starts at $249, and then $50 up for evey increase till $399 for the Nexus 5 with 32 GB.
Other than that customers would be unhappy all over the world and it woul be a shame on Google.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:32 2

8. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


I bought the Nexus 4 for $199. And I have enabled T-Mobile 4G LTE. There would be no hardware changes required because the radio and amplifier chips are in the Nexus 4. Just a software change.
This rumor is completely ridiculous. Maybe $199 or $249 for a Nexus 4 LTE and $299 or $349 for the 16GB Nexus 5.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:03 9

10. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Both of you are calling this rumor "ridiculous" even though you're quibbling over $50-$100 on a device that would retail for $600+ if it came from anyone other than Google. Have expectations really warped that much already?

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:18 1

12. o0Exia0o (Posts: 900; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


Sorry to tell you, but there are a couple of things that are off about what your stating here.

1) While it has been proven possable to turn on the LTE in the Nexus 4, It does not have the amplifier needed to pull in more than 1 bar at most and that is with in close proximity to a cell tower making your claim of LTE on your Nexus 4 what most would call B.S. You may have HSPA+ (which is what T-Mo is passing off as thier 4G network) but I call shenanigans of you having actual 4G LTE.

2) T-Mobile's LTE network is at this point is still almost nonexistent when compaired to ATT and VZW. What T-Mo has wide spread is HSPA+ and that is what they're passing off as thier 4G network. I am not saing that there is any thing wrong with HSPA+ but compared to true LTE, HSPA+ looks like dial-up.

Thanks for your time. Ill be awating your angry response

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:34

15. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


You're wrong.
1. It has the amplifier. I'm not an idiot. I can tell the difference between my phone reporting LTE and HSPA+. 70Mbps is not HSPA+ and is not without the amplifier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=a9e05b9afc1af0f9b95741d15eb71e62&t=2363870&page=13
2. T-Mobile covers 200 million people on LTE. HSPA+ is at 230 million people. By the end of the year, everywhere with HSPA+ will have LTE.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:35 2

16. cezarepc (Posts: 718; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Spot on man. IMPOSSIBLE to get true LTE speeds by any means on the current N4.

PS. I have yet to see a sh*tty article from Michael.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:36 2

17. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


$100 difference on a $199 device is not quibbling.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:41

18. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


I probably could have just pointed you to here and it would have ended the argument. Not only does it have LTE but it supports AWS. With proof of the amplifier.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:50

22. o0Exia0o (Posts: 900; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


And this is supposed to prove what?

1)There are 2 screen shots taken and they could be from a number of phones. I see no solid proof to back up your claims. Not just that but neather screen shot corrisponds with the other nor does the person who posted the screen shots even say that they came from an N-4.

2)while T-Mo may may "reach" 200M as they put it they don't at this point even cover 200 markets with LTE, while VZW at this point has covered almost thier entire 3g coverage area with 4G LTE coverage reaching close to or more than 500 markets.

Again Ill be awaiting your angry response. Thanks for your time.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:53 1

23. saffant (Posts: 274; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)


Enjoy the horrendous battery life with Nexus 4's LTE.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 10:55

24. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws

End of story. Nexus 4 has full T-Mobile LTE.

And i'm not here to argue about T-Mobile coverage. I'm agruing your "T-Mobile's LTE network is at this point is still almost nonexistent.... What T-Mo has wide spread is HSPA+ and that is what they're passing off as thier 4G network"
That is simply not true. 87% of the area T-Mobile covers with HSPA+ already has LTE.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 11:01

25. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


I have zero problems with the Nexus 4's battery other than it not being swap-able for long weekend trips without charging. All depends on where you are and how strong a signal you have. For me, I don't see any difference between LTE on or off. The same definitely was not true with my Galaxy Nexus. Turn on 4G and you're out of battery so fast.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 11:07 2

26. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 493; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


One point you may be missing here is the price of the N4 chip set and radios may have something to do with what features they (Google/LG) pay to use.

I.e. Google/LG approach Qualcomm about a chipset without LTE to keep the costs down. Developing and validating a new chipset would be tremendously expensive, so it's much easier to sell a product with features disabled and/or a license agreement that the features which were not purchased will not be utilized.

Point being, even if they could make the N4 fully support LTE with a software change the probable additional licensing costs would almost certainly require an increase in the retail price. The chipset manufacturer will want to be paid for the use of their IP.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 11:16

27. NexusPhan (Posts: 630; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Excellent point. But, it's also been a year. Prices have dropped on everything over the last year. Tooling and factories to build it already exist. No/little development costs. If Google were to only update the Nexus 4 to include LTE, I'd be stunned if they sold it for $299. It just doesn't make sense. I think this rumor is completely bogus. That's why no other site picked up on it. PA will post anything for clicks, that's why I keep coming back.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 11:25 3

28. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


At the end of the day is our money and it's in our right to quibble for $1 if we want to.
But the issue is not the current price as you want to make it look. The issue is the "expectations".
Google have been selling the phone really cheap and the rumor is pretty much telling there will be price increase in the N4. To release a phone a year later at a HIGHER price? That makes no sense.
And you can argue all you want that it has LTE, but to pay $100 more just for that? And what about the places that do NOT have LTE?
Google releases Nexus as a GLOBAL phone, not dedicated to the US, and there is where all the logic about those prices fail.
I'm not saying it can be that they will release two phones or anything. Just that they will be at least $50 cheaper to maintain prices, that's all.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 11:31 2

29. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


And to clarify it: I'm not saying they are expensive or anything, just that is not what I would expect from Google and that they will dissapoint me.
I may decide on a phone with a microSD slot then.

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