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Rising Apple iPhone subsidy costs force Sprint CEO Dan Hesse to take pay cut

0. phoneArena 04 May 2012, 22:32 posted on

Thanks to the higher costs involved in subsidizing Sprint customers purchase of the Apple iPhone, the carrier's CEO Dan Hesse said that he would be taking a pay cut in 2012; Hesse's pay will be reduced $346,000 to give back incentive pay he already received and he will forfeit $3.25 million dollars in incentive pay...

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posted on 05 May 2012, 10:16

94. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You said provide a link and I did. Now you dispute a direct quote. If T-Mobile is willing to make public statements that they want the iPhone I'd say it's a safe bet they want it.

I like your paraphrase which is totally out of touch with reality.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:29

102. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


hmm.. who is more likely to be right about how Tmobile runs their buisness..
.. you.. the biggest troll and most wrong person on the site..

or me.. a person that works for tmobile and is right way more often than being wrong.

think about that.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:40

107. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You were just wrong about T-Mobile not wanting the iPhone. Who knows more about how they do business. The CMO or Remix?

You were also wrong about Walmart. You're also wrong about the iPhone not being profitable for carriers and that's straight from the mouth of AT&T's CEO.

And that's just one this one article.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:45

108. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Here's another press release from T-Mobile a month later.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/poor-lil-fella-t-mobile-says-it-wants-the-iphone-4s-really-bad/

T-Mobile thinks the iPhone is a good device and we’ve expressed our interest to Apple to offer it to our customers. Ultimately, it is Apple’s decision. The issue remains that Apple has not developed a version of the iPhone with technology that works on our fast 3G and 4G networks. We believe a capable version of the iPhone for our 3G and 4G networks would offer an additional compelling option for our customers on a fast 4G network. However, the iPhone is not the only option to experience the benefit that smartphones offer.

posted on 05 May 2012, 11:38 2

109. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes, old news. moving on... oi. obviously there is just no getting through that thick ass skull of yours.

posted on 05 May 2012, 12:03 1

113. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


wow you got owned by taco. It is not t-mobile don't want the iphone. They can afford big different. He gave you many link and you back your statement with nothing. And yes I am trolling you.

posted on 05 May 2012, 12:33

117. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


He gets owned all the time. He spouts of incorrect info and then refuses to accept the real facts when presented.

He asked for a link, which I gave him two, then he backpedaled and said that's not what they really meant.

posted on 05 May 2012, 13:05 1

119. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you guys need to do a troll dance and make love. Will that upset gallito?

Bottom line, if Tmobile wanted the iphone bad enough, they would play ball with Apple and figure it out like sprint has. They have not done so. Thus they obviously are not willing to come to the table and meet apple's demands. Point blank. Its not a hard thing to comprehend. Making public statements to playcate the populous and making policy adjustments are 2 different things. Obviously if Tmobile REALLY wanted it, they would be able to afford it. Frikkin C-Spire has the phone and sells it cheaper than anyone, and they are a little no-nothing regional carrier.

Tmobile is not doing the greatest. Thats not because of the iphone. Thats because of bad advertising and ever changing policy stances, which i slap them for all the time.
VZW was leading in new subscribers even when they didnt have the iphone. Does it have an effect? yea. But its not the end all-be all that you idiots try to make it out to be.

posted on 06 May 2012, 22:48

136. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


68. remixfa posted on yesterday, 09:50 1
can you find a link to Tmobile publicly begging for an iphone? thanks

This comment is posted in response to #67 Show

I then post 3 links and your response is that's not what T-Mobile meant.

They specifically said we want the phone and it's Apple's decision.

posted on 06 May 2012, 22:58

137. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


are you really trolling on this.. still? you really are a special special little boy arent you?

find me one company that has never said one thing publicly and done something else internally. Those are PR statements, nothing more. Grow up child.

posted on 06 May 2012, 23:15

138. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You said T-Mobile didn't say it then you changed you're tune. Who's the child?

posted on 07 May 2012, 07:20

140. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they didnt say it. they never said "We are begging for an iphone" publicly, which was what you claimed they said. Never once did they "BEG" for anything. Making a public statement saying they are happy to talk with Apple about possibilities and "begging" are 2 different things. Do you really think they never talked with apple? Do you not think they tried to work out a deal? What kind of fool are you really? Of COURSE they tried. They are not willing to pay the apple fees and pricing that apple demands. So when they say the ball is in Apple's court, they are saying "go to hell with your pricing, but when your ready to be reasonable, we can talk again". They cant afford the crap pill that they shoved down ATT/VZW's throat. Technically, Sprint couldnt afford it anyways, but Hesse tried.
Get... A... Clue...

posted on 05 May 2012, 08:04 2

41. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Every CEO and EXECUTIVE should take a pay cut.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:09

48. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


while i still cant believe he let Jobs put him over a barrel and have his way with him, this is a great gesture by Hesse. Its not often you see a CEO of a MAJOR corporation taking such a drastic pay cut to help the bottom line of his company (small company CEO's do it all the time to survive). While its a drop in the bucket compared to what he promised apple, the gesture itself is grand.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:35 1

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


The total lack of being in touch with reality is mind boggling for some of the rabid android fans.

iPhone is bad for business- if you listen to Randal Stephenson's interview just above he says that before the iPhone AT&T profit margins were 32%. Now in 2012 they're 41%. Saying iPhone is bad for profit shows you have no concept of the mobile industry or reality.

iPhone is overpriced- this statement shows you have a complete lack of understanding of how markets work. The market decides the price I can charge. If I overprice my product then no one will buy it and I'll be forced to lower the price. The fact iPhone is selling in record numbers shows in fact it's not overpriced.

Carriers don't need the iPhone- no one forces carriers to do business with Apple. The fact the carriers all want the iPhone shows the iPhone is good for business. Some reasons why? iPhone customers have lower churn, higher satisfaction rates and iPhone is more likely to get customers to go from a basic to a smartphone than any other phone. If you read Sprints Q1 results 44% of the 1.5 million iPhones they sold were to people that switched to Sprint. That is why carriers want an iPhone.

Apple is greedy- every corporation is out to make money. The fact Apple makes more money shows they have a better business plan in place. Companies who make less money don't do so out of the goodness of their heart. They're just less successful. Their products aren't in demand and Apple's are.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:41

61. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


I hate the iPhone but I agree there is not another company as good as them at selling their product.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:52

71. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Hating a phone is an illogical emotion. Why would you hate a cell phone? That makes no sense. The world is full of haters who get upset at seeing success whether it's an individual or a company.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:55 2

74. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


says the child that takes a swipe at android with nearly every post he makes.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:36 1

106. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


the reason i say hate is because everytime that i do something that easy and efficent on any other device, it either is in another place instead of in the app being used or it is not capable of doing it all together

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:49 1

65. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Is that TACO talking wisely first time
By not trolling wow...

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:56 1

75. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


generally when taco tries to act like this, it means he got a warning letter that he is about to be banned again. dont worry, he wont even last 24 hrs before he goes back to regular taco.

posted on 05 May 2012, 09:54 2

72. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


in a true free market, the market decides the price. in an artificial market like the one apple has created, it controls the price. it controls the price that it sells to the carriers, and apple controls the price the carriers are allowed to sell the iphone at, creating artificially high prices over long periods than normal. Remember how you always joke about android phones going on sale sooner than an iphone? Thats because andriod phones are controlled by free market pressure, where apple refuses to bow to free market. That is also why apple's sales spike and then have a steady downward trend with every model. Allowing the market to make the price adjustments on the iphone would steady out their sales.. but apple doesnt care about that as long as they make their massive profits.

Taco is TRYING to look like he isnt a complete troll, but if you actually look at what he is writing, you realize its a thin veiled act. A few actual points spread between a bunch of BS.

Cite your sources taco.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:03

82. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


In a free market a company is free to sell their product at any price they want. Android phones have to get discounted because they can't compete at higher prices. You think carriers would slash their prices if they were selling at $300 or even $200.

iPhone sells at the prices set therefore the price doesn't drop.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:10 2

88. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ahh.. regular taco is already starting to return.

Android has increased competition in its space, which is what pushes the prices down. Again, Apple's space is artificial and they do everything they can to resist market pressure for as long as possible.

If the price didnt drop, why is the i4s on sale for $100 at WALMART??.. yup.. thats where I go to get all my high class stuff.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:13

91. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


http://m.bgr.com/2012/05/04/walmart-att-iphone/

UPDATE: Walmart confirmed to 9to5Mac that the retail chain “experienced a pricing error in limited stores” yesterday and prices have now returned to their original amounts.

How is the price artificial if people are buying it at that price?

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:23 2

96. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


wow.. quite the error. I hope a lot of people took advantage.

Taco, you need to take an economics class. im not going to try to explain something knowing that there is just a blank stare on the other end of the conversation.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:26

99. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well your whole Walmart argument is completely shut down.

So according to your view of economics I should sell my product for less than I'm able to why? Explain to me how that makes business sense.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:27

100. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


"Taco, you need to take an economics class. im not going to try to explain something knowing that there is just a blank stare on the other end of the conversation."

again, i already answered your question. learn to read.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:35

105. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Seriously why would a company drop it's price when it sells in record numbers at the current price. Give me the economic theory you're talking about.

posted on 05 May 2012, 10:14 1

92. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


you shouldnt shop at walmart.

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