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Researchers claim Apple can read iMessages, Apple denies it

0. phoneArena 19 Oct 2013, 12:24 posted on

During this whole NSA spying mess there has been a lot of attention paid to various messaging services and the security implementations of each. One service that was thought to be immune to NSA spying was Apple's iMessage, but researchers are claiming that Apple can in fact read your iMessages if it wants. Not surprisingly, Apple denies the claims...

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posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:27 2

1. spo (Posts: 19; Member since: 25 Apr 2009)


The easiest way for Apple to read your iMessages is to log in to iMessage with your Apple ID which I'm sure is easier for them to do then re-engineering the infrastructure of iMessage.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:43 4

6. androiphone20 (Posts: 1521; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


meanwhile in the parallel universehttp://www.slashgear.com/iphone-5s-confirmed-fastest-phone-in-independent-ranking-test-19302140/

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 16:02 1

24. eN16HTMAR3 (Posts: 116; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


To bad it's a Apple.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 17:06 2

27. vincelongman (Posts: 1708; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Those are Geekbench 3 scores.
Why didn't they test more new phones, there is only the LG G2.

Heres some more Geekbench 3 scores
Note 3: 2937 (they boasted this one)
Z Ultra: 2670
Xperia Z1: 2638
iPhone 5s: 2561
LG G2: 2243

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-review-996p6.php

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:58 10

12. takeja (Posts: 35; Member since: 16 Aug 2013)


You can not trust a word coming from Apple= liars, thieves, Steve Jobs: "we are shameless about stealing"

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:02

13. androiphone20 (Posts: 1521; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


have you considered that it could have a different contextual meaning than the one intended? I believe you can be smarter than this

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:55 4

18. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 4167; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I think the author is contradictory here. Google can track and keep infinite amounts of data on you and yet I see no finger pointed at them.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 14:29 7

19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Maybe because the article is about iMessages. Just a thought.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 17:11 2

28. 90ninjas (Posts: 109; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


Probably because there's a lot of articles already that give Google a thumbs down for data security?

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 23:41

34. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1896; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


And he said that it's in neither companies best interest to violate their customers privacy. Is it just that no company can be on the same level as Apple in your mind? He's saying that neither appears to be in the wrong here.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:28 2

2. cncrim (Posts: 547; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


I'm not surprise at all. Beside I don't see a big problem at all, if Apple actually read my message.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:11 3

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5954; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


If you are fine with entities like NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. reading your iMessages, then no worries. Personally, I don't like the snooping. There is a controversy going around about a TSA screener who was taking pictures looking up female travellers skirts - just because he could.... Do you want someone from a govt. agency browsing your iMessages just because they can?

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 18:49

31. E.N. (Posts: 2362; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


For some reason, I doubt the NSA, CIA, and FBI will be reading iMessages just for fun.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 23:24

32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5954; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


How about the circumstance where an agent of one of the alphabet soup agencies is dating an owner of an iPhone? Don't you wonder if they would be just the slightest bit curious about what their paramour was saying in their iMessage comms?

Think it didn't happen? Here is some bedtime reading for you:http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/23/nsa-officers-sometimes-spy-on-love-interests/

There is even an acronym for the practice - LOVEINT.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:31 4

3. apple4never (Posts: 974; Member since: 08 May 2013)


I phone = eye phone=illumanati phone
siri spelled backwards is IRIS which is a part of the eye= apple is illumanati, their watching you lol

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:37 1

4. cdgm2509 (Posts: 30; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


i just don't know what "ilumAnati" is

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:40

5. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Read Dan Brown's da vinci code or angles and demons, don't remember which one but yeah great read.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:45 1

7. androiphone20 (Posts: 1521; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


wtf is this all about?

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:46

8. androiphone20 (Posts: 1521; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


wtf is this all about?

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:52 1

10. darkkjedii (Posts: 12643; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dexetra.iris&hl=en
They're watching you too lol

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:26 2

16. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


I fail to see the correlation of a third party created app to Apple reading your text messages.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 15:16 1

22. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Two wrongs don't make a thing right.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:52

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 12643; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Beware

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 16:03

25. eN16HTMAR3 (Posts: 116; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


Fantastic. LOL.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 12:47 2

9. promise7 (Posts: 479; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


"So, theoretically, Apple could read your iMessages if it wanted."

Theoretically any company can read any user is doing. Google can log into your Gmail account, Microsoft can log into your Outlook account, Verizon/AT&T/etc. can read all your phone logs and listen to your voicemails. Theoretically any of this can happen, hopefully your tin foil hat helps keep you sleep at night.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 23:40 1

33. cc3493 (Posts: 155; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Mock people all you want but you need to realise that privacy is a big deal to a lot of people. Hopefully your ignorance will help you sleep at nigh. Ignorance = Bliss.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:05

14. illusionmist (Posts: 126; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)


Saw some of the renowned iPhone hackers talk about this on Twitter earlier.

@planetbeing said that he "suspect there is a way to architecture it without so much issues." And @chpwn said "based on the description, I actually think that Apple secured it as best they could (given the UX limitations)."

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 13:30

17. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Privacy has been pretty much non existent since smartphones blew up and social mediums became as big as they are now, so I don't understand why people would be so up in arms about this. The fact is just owning a smartphone you are giving another group of individuals all the personal information they need to find out anything want to about you...

I'm not surprised if Apple is indeed doing this, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung, Google, HTC, and or LG were doing this and or something similar too.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 15:12

20. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Oh dear.....now can we stop about Google spying on everyone.....apple does it too now stop the pointless flame wars!

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 15:15

21. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


All FREE servcies are based on "SELL YOUR SOUL" business policy.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 15:33

23. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5954; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Meh. Is being exposed to advertising selling your soul? If so, everyone of us has sold our soul at one point or another.

BTW, iMessage is not a free service. You are paying for it as part of the purchase price for an iToy that the software is installed on. As such, there is a bit higher expectation of privacy (at least in the U.S.).

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 16:18 1

26. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


We aren't living in an Utopian world. Storing your personal files on free cloud storage is like selling your soul.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 17:18

29. xfire99 (Posts: 570; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


Apple do read iMessages and so do many others companys that co operate with NSA, FBI by theirs "spy project" PRISM.
Microsoft, Skype, Yahoo, Facebook, Paltalk, Google, Youtube, AOL, Apple are few known that are in PRISM. So any of these companys are lying if they deny if u privacy is safe while using theirs devices.
But since US peoples didnt mind that US goverment were spying on them and so nothing to blame.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 17:58

30. eddyphone (Posts: 9; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


If that is true, it will be a serious privacy infringement

posted on 20 Oct 2013, 08:17

35. xfire99 (Posts: 570; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


The Americans dont care about it:http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/nsa-spying-poll-pew/66093/

posted on 21 Oct 2013, 06:33

36. olamba333 (Posts: 5; Member since: 17 Oct 2013)


my ios 7.0.2 also have the iMessage problem I think ios 7 is not good version for iphone 4

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