Researchers claim Apple can read iMessages, Apple denies it
The original claim by Apple was that no outside parties could read iMessage chats because the messages were encrypted on one device and not decrypted until they hit the receiver's device. However, on Thursday researchers from QuarksLab put on a presentation called "How Apple Can Read Your iMessages and How You Can Prevent It." The team apparently reverse-engineered iMessage and found that the encryption used is extremely strong and could probably only be cracked by exploits available only to agencies like the NSA.
But, the team also says that because Apple controls the entire infrastructure, it could potentially set up such an exploit fairly easily and be able to read your messages. Of course, Apple was quick to jump on this claim and released a statement to AllThingsD saying:
So, theoretically, Apple could read your iMessages if it wanted, but there's no real reason why it would want to. We can't really see any benefit to Apple breaking its own security, just like we can't see any benefit to Google screwing over users by exploiting the data that it holds. Protecting user data is good business these days, and we think these big companies understand that.
source: Ars Technica & AllThingsD
1. spo (Posts: 19; Member since: 25 Apr 2009)
The easiest way for Apple to read your iMessages is to log in to iMessage with your Apple ID which I'm sure is easier for them to do then re-engineering the infrastructure of iMessage.
6. androiphone20 (Posts: 1472; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
meanwhile in the parallel universehttp://www.slashgear.com/iphon
27. vincelongman (Posts: 1301; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Those are Geekbench 3 scores.
Why didn't they test more new phones, there is only the LG G2.
Heres some more Geekbench 3 scores
Note 3: 2937 (they boasted this one)
Z Ultra: 2670
Xperia Z1: 2638
iPhone 5s: 2561
LG G2: 2243
12. takeja (Posts: 35; Member since: 16 Aug 2013)
You can not trust a word coming from Apple= liars, thieves, Steve Jobs: "we are shameless about stealing"
13. androiphone20 (Posts: 1472; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
have you considered that it could have a different contextual meaning than the one intended? I believe you can be smarter than this
18. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3639; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I think the author is contradictory here. Google can track and keep infinite amounts of data on you and yet I see no finger pointed at them.
19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Maybe because the article is about iMessages. Just a thought.
28. 90ninjas (Posts: 95; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
Probably because there's a lot of articles already that give Google a thumbs down for data security?
34. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1578; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
And he said that it's in neither companies best interest to violate their customers privacy. Is it just that no company can be on the same level as Apple in your mind? He's saying that neither appears to be in the wrong here.
2. cncrim (Posts: 516; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
I'm not surprise at all. Beside I don't see a big problem at all, if Apple actually read my message.
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5850; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
If you are fine with entities like NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. reading your iMessages, then no worries. Personally, I don't like the snooping. There is a controversy going around about a TSA screener who was taking pictures looking up female travellers skirts - just because he could.... Do you want someone from a govt. agency browsing your iMessages just because they can?
31. E.N. (Posts: 2329; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
For some reason, I doubt the NSA, CIA, and FBI will be reading iMessages just for fun.
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5850; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
How about the circumstance where an agent of one of the alphabet soup agencies is dating an owner of an iPhone? Don't you wonder if they would be just the slightest bit curious about what their paramour was saying in their iMessage comms?
Think it didn't happen? Here is some bedtime reading for you:http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/
There is even an acronym for the practice - LOVEINT.
3. apple4never (Posts: 961; Member since: 08 May 2013)
I phone = eye phone=illumanati phone
siri spelled backwards is IRIS which is a part of the eye= apple is illumanati, their watching you lol
5. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Read Dan Brown's da vinci code or angles and demons, don't remember which one but yeah great read.
10. darkkjedii (Posts: 11825; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
They're watching you too lol
16. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
I fail to see the correlation of a third party created app to Apple reading your text messages.
9. promise7 (Posts: 468; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
"So, theoretically, Apple could read your iMessages if it wanted."
Theoretically any company can read any user is doing. Google can log into your Gmail account, Microsoft can log into your Outlook account, Verizon/AT&T/etc. can read all your phone logs and listen to your voicemails. Theoretically any of this can happen, hopefully your tin foil hat helps keep you sleep at night.
33. cc3493 (Posts: 155; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Mock people all you want but you need to realise that privacy is a big deal to a lot of people. Hopefully your ignorance will help you sleep at nigh. Ignorance = Bliss.
14. illusionmist (Posts: 122; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
Saw some of the renowned iPhone hackers talk about this on Twitter earlier.
@planetbeing said that he "suspect there is a way to architecture it without so much issues." And @chpwn said "based on the description, I actually think that Apple secured it as best they could (given the UX limitations)."
17. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
Privacy has been pretty much non existent since smartphones blew up and social mediums became as big as they are now, so I don't understand why people would be so up in arms about this. The fact is just owning a smartphone you are giving another group of individuals all the personal information they need to find out anything want to about you...
I'm not surprised if Apple is indeed doing this, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung, Google, HTC, and or LG were doing this and or something similar too.
20. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1622; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Oh dear.....now can we stop about Google spying on everyone.....apple does it too now stop the pointless flame wars!
21. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
All FREE servcies are based on "SELL YOUR SOUL" business policy.
23. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5850; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Meh. Is being exposed to advertising selling your soul? If so, everyone of us has sold our soul at one point or another.
BTW, iMessage is not a free service. You are paying for it as part of the purchase price for an iToy that the software is installed on. As such, there is a bit higher expectation of privacy (at least in the U.S.).
26. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
We aren't living in an Utopian world. Storing your personal files on free cloud storage is like selling your soul.
29. xfire99 (Posts: 539; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Apple do read iMessages and so do many others companys that co operate with NSA, FBI by theirs "spy project" PRISM.
Microsoft, Skype, Yahoo, Facebook, Paltalk, Google, Youtube, AOL, Apple are few known that are in PRISM. So any of these companys are lying if they deny if u privacy is safe while using theirs devices.
But since US peoples didnt mind that US goverment were spying on them and so nothing to blame.
30. eddyphone (Posts: 9; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)
If that is true, it will be a serious privacy infringement
35. xfire99 (Posts: 539; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
The Americans dont care about it:http://www.theatlanticwire.com
36. olamba333 (Posts: 5; Member since: 17 Oct 2013)
my ios 7.0.2 also have the iMessage problem I think ios 7 is not good version for iphone 4