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Research says Android and iOS will continue to dominate, but others will find their niches

0. phoneArena 20 Aug 2013, 21:10 posted on

One of the most common questions that is asked any time someone hears the names Firefox OS, Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, or Tizen, is whether or not these alternative platforms have much of a chance in a market that is dominated by Android (and to a lesser extent, iOS). But, a new report from Juniper Research says that emerging markets will give plenty of space for all comers...

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posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:17 14

1. wp8nokia (banned) (Posts: 16; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


That ios copy machine call android will end soon , ppl are tired of looking at their phone and say oh it looks like and iphone , once they touch a wp ohhh boy the see and feel whats original , what is hard work and dedication, what it to have a braind and no just copy , dont believe me ask google why they pay Microsoft 1 billion dollars a year lol.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:19 11

2. cdgm2509 (Posts: 30; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


JESUS CHRIST!!! Mention one single thing android copied from iOS... just one single thing.. BTW nice grammar and spelling

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:30 4

5. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 357; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


They copied the idea of the OS (apps put on a desktop) and the way you use (multi touch --> slide to unlock, pinch to zoom etc.) the OS. Don't forget that Apple had to completely innovate all that stuff from the scratch. Android/Google just took that and then added features that iOS did not had but that is evolution and not revolution. That means that Android/Google only implemented incremental innovation while Apple did the radical innovation. Microsoft came up with a radical innovation in terms of user interface. So far, Android did not achieve one single radical innovation.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:35 18

6. jdoee100 (Posts: 298; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


It's the Apple that did not achieve one single radical innovation. Apple's so called "innovation" were taken(or stolen) from other people's ideas. Apple put together other people's innovations in one fantastic package, that is all.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:38 5

8. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 357; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


So, who used then an OS like iOS before (apps on multiple desktops)? Who used multi-touch before? Please name examples.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 22:01 1

10. a_tumiwa (Posts: 221; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


nah, both OS copy from motorola for phone calling feature

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 22:02 16

11. hmmm... (Posts: 51; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)


You should just use a search engine to look for the answers instead of asking people here. Slide to unlock first appeared in Neonode phones(no longer making phones but their sensing tech is used in Xperia Zu). Multi touch and pinch to zoom weren't even develop by Apple. Mitsubishi diamondtouch in 2001 was an early device with multi touch. LG made the first capacitive phone. Though I'll give credit to Apple for bringing everything into one device. You can find these with a search engine, it will blow your preception apart. Or do you refuse to face the truth? and just hide in your own reality where Apple invented everything? That's laughable.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 22:33 1

13. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 357; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


Concerning Neonode: I agree now that they did it first. But since no one knows them, I'd rather say Apple "invented" it separately from them. Neonode was not mentioned in the court rooms between Samsung/Google and Apple. If Apple did not know about this patent, their innovativeness isn't touched at all.
Concerning multi-touch: You really want to compare a complete table device for multiple humans to phone device for multiple fingers of one person?
And by the way: have you every heard about architectural innovation?
Furthermore: I didn't say Apple invented everything, my statement was rather: Apple invented more than Android's originators.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 23:02 1

15. hmmm... (Posts: 51; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)


That is why i said i had to give Apple credit for bringing many functions into one device. IF they didn't know about Neonode, then yes, they "invented" it separately. (Big IF)
Neonode is mentioned in court, when Apple went after HTC and then Samsung, but I'm not able post links here.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 07:33 4

30. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


And you still haven't mentioned anything Apple invented in regards to their phones, but say they've invented more than Android's creators.

Apple tied a lot of other people's ideas together into one clean, polished package, but didn't invent any of it. They raised the bar in many ways by doing so, but don't deserve the credit for inventing any of it.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 10:00

32. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 357; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


Do you think the inventor of the car did invent the wheel? Many inventions are based on what already exists but which is put together in a very new way. Apple invented the modern smartphone or did you see any smartphones like the iphones before iPhone 1?

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 19:54

34. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Koolaid must taste good if you think Apple invented the modern smartphone.

Not sure if people are just too lazy to investigate the truth or just too blind to admit it when they see it.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 01:48 3

21. deewinc (Posts: 155; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Don't forget rectangular design with rounded corners came from the Motorola A100s touchscreens back in the days.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 00:05 1

17. -box- (Posts: 3714; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I agree about WP being great, but apple and ios are copycat trash. They took others' ideas, standing on the shoulders of giants, and put them in one device (which wasn't unprecedented), and advertised the heck out of it until uninformed persons bought their fictions. IDevices are made in china not only to exploit the workforce, but also because copycat laws are much looser, allowing Chinese companies to copy whatever they want with little to no penalty.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 07:43

31. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


....so android isn't copycat trash?

come on you can't bash one company for copying and leave the other out of it.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 00:17 4

18. kanagadeepan (Posts: 634; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Yes... The Notification Android copied from iOS, NO NO NO WAIT WAIT....

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 01:19

20. lalalaman (Posts: 283; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


be practical man, be practical....i love all of them..there are abilities and disabilities in all OSes...copying is innovation....remember what Steve Jobs said about copying???Android was doing the same...now ios is doing that...once other feature are on WP...ppl will say the same...COPYING

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:25 1

3. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2993; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Android...definitely!
Apple? Skeptical...unless they bring a new practical thing to the market.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:28 6

4. veer.d (Posts: 85; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


any analyst cannot estimates about five years in technology field.
u must remember that IDC estimate that android will become second platform after symbian in 2013.....

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:38 7

7. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 641; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


A 5 year estimation??? Technology improving in a high rate so its pretty hard to estimate for 5 years unless they have six sense or something..lol.
besides its their job.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 21:46 4

9. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5075; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Since Tim Cook joined Apple as the CEO, Apple is falling down like a roller coaster.
Anyway, Android FTW!

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 22:18 2

12. GeekMovement (Posts: 1499; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


that's the tizen logo? .... ok.. well I'm really excited about jolla sailfish os i hope they become successful.

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 22:55 1

14. wicpromd (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


what willl happen to nokia?

posted on 20 Aug 2013, 23:03 3

16. 1113douglas (Posts: 185; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)


Ios sucks

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 00:34 1

19. Sondae (Posts: 182; Member since: 02 Jan 2013)


I sure like to see different OS like Android, iOS, Windows Phone and etc on the phone giving a costumer to try different option for there taste. I cant imagine one day there will be one OS in a phone.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 02:35 2

22. gazmatic (Posts: 523; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


never trust what these analyst estimate

nobody can predict what technology will look like in 5 years... not even in two years

being the most advanced and most powerful does not equal market success...

let me do some forecasting of my own...

android will continue to dominate and rise until the point of stagnation unless cheap and powerful devices hit the market

ios will rise and fall based on its marketability and "this changes everything again features" they will have to innovate to recapture mind-share from android or risk a two pronged attack from google and ms

wp will continue to rise but wont reach 10% anytime soon... they'll pass 7% as lumias become the new status symbols

bb will continue to decline as wp keeps attacking them

tizen will make an impact initially but wont siphon enough users from android to matter

jolla wont make a splash(even though i want them to, being a meego fan)

all other os will just be blips on the radar

by 2020 it will look like this:

android 75%
ios 15%
wp 7%
bb 2%
all others

I am not an analyst but past predictions by analysts prove that my predictions are as credible as theirs

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 02:51 1

23. SIGPRO (Posts: 398; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


WP will grow, but i think Sailfish can be a big player!

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 04:51

26. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


hmmm not many people have heard about it though and they dont have the might of samsung or intel behind them like tizen!

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 05:41

29. SIGPRO (Posts: 398; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


True but they have to start from the bottom, it has to grow! And i see other brands using Sailfish os also in the near future.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 03:26 1

24. muser793 (Posts: 40; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


am I the only 1 here knows that Android is not the first OS with notification center?! just go check windows mobile, u can see the damn notif center! windows mobile had both Widgets n Notification Center ! there's no innovation in IOS or Android, the only platform with new interface n something new is WP...

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 04:52

27. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


hahahaah! No innovation in android!!!! Good one mate!! And BTW while we are here there is no innovation in WP either all they have done is essentially taken windows desktop OS dumbed it down and stuck a skin on top of it! Its terrible! I know this how? My WP crashed yetserday after loads of error messages and im taking it back to get a android...

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 05:27 3

28. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 1132; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


WP will rise. They will rise, indeed.

posted on 21 Aug 2013, 16:45

33. snowgator (Posts: 3188; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Hey Phone Arena writers ... How about mining the predictions of companies from 2009/2010 and see how accurate these guys have been? I have been here since October 2010, and these things have been darts thrown at a board with blind folds on.

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