Reports mount about Windows Phone 8 freezes, random reboots and battery issues
0. phoneArena 19 Nov 2012, 03:13 posted on
Windows Phone 8 is here and it’s been here for a couple of weeks now. This means that users have had some time to really dive deeper…
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1. MeoCao (unregistered)
This is only software glitches and that can happen with any new OS.
For WP8 lack of Notification Center and features like Google Now, Google Voice search..is much bigger problem,
12. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
Google Now, Google Voice sure (but bing search is there by voice), but Notification center while needed isn't as big a need. With smaller tiles, your home screen is the notification center. I'm sure it's coming, but it's not like everyone is dying without it and can last till it comes in the next update I suppose.
14. MeoCao (unregistered)
I see it differently, I think WP8 needs Android like notification center more than anything else.
Your phone now acts like your personal assistant and it must organise your information for you.
Live tiles look nice but they keep information separately in each tile so it will take you a lot of time to read all those notifications and if you have many notifications it will be very frustrating experience.
There are apps that do not have live tiles so their notifications will be lost.
On the other hand you can't control the available notifications like blocking those you don't need, and you cannot act on them like delete or access the information.
I think MS realize that and they are scrambling to build that feature, but this can be too late as MS is very slow company and competition will not stop and wait for MS.
26. cdgoin (Posts: 409; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
WHY..? is "notification center" an issue.
4 small one tiles on top
PHONE - Email - Facebook - Twitter
4 small tiles underneath
Last I checked that's a Notification center a better one than Google personally.
67. jroc74 (Posts: 5541; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
For one.....the notification center, shade on Android (and now iOS) is available on every home screen. (dont know about iOS) Pull down and its there. Even the lock screen. (dont know about iOS) To me thats better.
Its available just about everywhere. (dont know about iOS)
The Live Tiles is more like widgets. Which is fine, I dont like the whole uniform look of the Live Tiles.
68. jroc74 (Posts: 5541; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Meant to say I just dont like the whole uniform look of Live Tiles.
30. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
An Android-like notification center would most likely get WP into patent problems with Google. It is only a matter of time before Google's application for its Notification center patent issues (it may have already issued). MS isn't stupid, so if using tiles as an analogy for a Notification center won't work, plan on waiting a while for anything like what Android offers.
70. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
why recommend a feature that is already done by someone else? doesn't that contribute to the lack of choice in the industry? I think WP8 will do fine without an android-like notification panel. as far as the issues it's having...this is pretty much common on any smart phone, so why did this become an article...
22. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)
Why does the lack of google services in a Microsoft phone make it a deal breake?? Get a google phone.
2. tigermcm (Posts: 832; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
why is it when a new update to a software comes out we bash it because of a few bugs but when iOS comes with an update we say nothing but great things(not including this last update)
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Apple got quite a few complaints over Siri when the 4S was released. When their arrogance reached we heights over iMaps, they got slammed. The problems kept coming though, and we are now at release 6.0.1 with 6.1 beta released to developers for testing.
I wonder how long until there is an .0.1 version of WP8?
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It is, but I was replying to tiger's post. My reply draws from the iOS experience and extrapolates a probable scenario (.0.1release) for WP8.
37. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
is it? see from the comment i thought it was a promotion for android.......seriously android users (not all) love to jump on other phone os's problems
64. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
funny, the only time android was brought up....was when you did it.....
reading comprehension is a great thing you know.
66. jroc74 (Posts: 5541; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
lol....really. The only thing remotely related to Android in Doug's post was his username...lol. And funny how the guy Doug was replying to mentioned iOS....and no one asked him about the article being about wp8...
73. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
err maybe you need some lessons in reading mate
the first many comments are talking about android and the notification which means android was all ready brought up
but carry on your android fellowship of fanboys will support you
76. jroc74 (Posts: 5541; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
errr....you posted " see from the comment......"
That signifies one. Since you reasoned to Doug's post, most ppl woulda thought you meant Doug's post you replied to.
And if you meant his earlier post....how is that a promotion for Android? ..
3. bojan (Posts: 188; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
this happens too on my windows 8 on my laptop
5. onethreealpha (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Windows you say?
oh. That's a "product feature"
looks like they did carry over a whole bunch of stuff from winmo after all
13. onethreealpha (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
My ignorance? As a previous winmo user I would argue that freezes, reboots and battery drains have been pretty consistent with MS phone OS's for years. Seems they can change the code but not the flaws.
your lack of facts to back up your statement is a reflection of your own ignorance.
18. GJanee (Posts: 214; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)
as if you have backed up your first comment with facts... :D sit down kid, you're not that smart. :D
i'm a wp7 user for 1,5 years now and only had like 3 random reboots and 1 freeze, no battery drains at all (runs at least 1,5 days with average use) and that's it.
i did not use winmo, but i could care less about it, since it is dead.
i bet you have never used a current windows phone device to back that crap up you are saying about the platform. come again maybe?
71. onethreealpha (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I lol'd. You probably never used winmo because it didn't ship on the fisher price toys you were playing with when I started using mobile handsets.
72. GJanee (Posts: 214; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)
and you are the one who raged about "lack of facts" yesterday... hmm... now that you can't come up with anything reasonable, you're going to try and insult me instead? :D good job dork, grow up and try again. your supposed age and number of mobile devices used seems to be inversely proportional to how smart you really are.
25. Just_a_boy (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
some people are trapped in past... Windows NT is a brand new windows kernel, so some bugs may appear, despite some issues windows phone 8 is one of the faster and fluid OS to date, I had the opportunity to play around with my cousin's Lumia 920 and it crushed my brother's iPhone 5 in every aspect, try new experiences buddy!
6. drahmad (Posts: 480; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
the verge. what else can u expect from the verge. that's the most famous Microsoft hater
23. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Wow, I hate those guys from theverge.
35. Martine (Posts: 102; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
The (Original) sources of the News are WP central and Microsoft Support. TheVerge just like Engadget and PhoneArena only reported it.
The issue is more serious than TheVerge hating Microsoft.
44. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
Boy is absolutly notorius the poor quality control Microsoft puts on W8, it's terrible to see how a flag ship OS comes to market with frustraring reboots and all the problems users have been reporting on Nokia 920.
It's funny, Dead Blue Screens and Reboots always will be presents on any version of Windows...
7. jove39 (Posts: 1500; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Ballmer's response - Reboots are daily scheduled events to windows running smoothly and for poor battery...what kinda battery life you expect with 20 live tiles huh?
33. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Go use Android or iPhone and be happy. No need to post idiocy.
38. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
funny so your think that no other os reboots or freezes, my adroid tablet has rebooted twice and froze a few times more
ofcourse you wont acknowledge that, because you believe your preferred os is perfection
47. jove39 (Posts: 1500; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Take it easy man...I don't hate WP8...was just took a crack at Ballmer :)
48. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
maybe but its only seems allowed if its for android, saying anything against android on here seems to hurt so many
so you admit there all os's freeze etc
8. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Which mean that Windows Phone 8 need a major update.Which also mean don't buy any WP8 device right now.
17. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
yeah, go for android, the flawless os... wtf, who are you kidding??
34. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Oops, imaps doesn't work. iOS needs a major update. Why all the bullcrap?
39. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
hmm yeah with your logic no one would have bought android until ics and even then it wasnt flawless so come back to reality
you forget android was terrible at the start but it evolved and its not the perfect os you believe it to be
41. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
I love Windows Phone, everybody on PA knows that, all i'm saying is what i read on PA.
First we had Intel who said Windows 8 was still not polished then Microsoft got angry and intel had to denied that
Second you have a Windows Phone 8 staff who said they didn't have much time to implement further features.
If you don't believe, Google around PhoneArena articles.
Windows Phone 8 needed time to be polished, it is a great OS and will be my next phone, but the fact it still need time.
69. jroc74 (Posts: 5541; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Whats funny to me is how in the world did those folks replying to you get you liking, promoting Android or iOS with that post...
?? You coulda meant stay with WP7 right now, or just wait til updates for WP8..
Sometimes.....we make fanboy wars when none exist.
42. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
If you want to buy Windows Phone 8 device, carry on. But my advice is wait for a major Windows Phone 8 update before shelling out your money. I'm not saying buy Android or iPhone. All I'm saying is give Windows Phone time not to disappoint you.
43. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
but the difference is if those dont buy it, why would they bother continuing to update. the more they sell the more incentive to give bigger updates
besides all phones with lag or reboot at least once in there lifetime depending on how much you use them and what for
9. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
sorry but my Nokia N9 is good haha. Eventhough meego is not supported by nokia it is still a good OS haha eventhough it is a new OS unlike WP 8 which is very well supported by MS haha!
16. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
my nokia 5110 still works fine too, so what?
75. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
Kuya kung pinoy ka man ayaw mo lang maniwala na maganda ang Meego kesa sa Windows Phone!
You don't want to agree with me that Meego is a good OS unlike Windows Phone! Haha!
I also have the 5110 and 3210 phone of Nokia and it still works you know. And for the info Smartphones are the topics not feature phones haha
15. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
My lumia with 7.5 works fine and dandy thank you :D but seriously, i had the same problem with my lg optimus 7 at the launch of wp7, bu they fixed it with a firmware update. imho its more of a firmware glitch than the os itself. luckily all other platforms are freeze and restart free, like android.... no wait... xP
45. myownchoice (Posts: 22; Member since: 31 Oct 2012)
U know i laugh when u wrote my wp 7.5... lol... a year old os... i am running the latest jelly bean on my s2.. lol... now u r bragging bout wp8...
46. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
are you really, well there many who arent able to have jelly bean for no reason but sure you keep thinking android is ahead in updates etc
your laughing because he's got wp7.5, does that affect you. mybe and i know another crazy thought for me again he prefers wp7 to android or any other os.
seriously im gonna state it now becuase its beyond a joke now android users in the past month have become worse then the ifans. you all say we like choice and want new things yet every chance you get you attack anything non android or google
so how about be honest and say you like choice (as long as its android) and you want new stuff (as long as it involves android and google)
closed minded people using an open os
50. myownchoice (Posts: 22; Member since: 31 Oct 2012)
Lol..... ur last sentence says it all...open os for open minded people.. Have u heard of a custom rom?? I bet no... So shut up... did u know that the s2 will officially get jelly bean... nope.. and ur last year lumia wont get wp8...wp8 is not bad... but u guys praise it toooooo much....
51. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
wow, your s2 got 4.1, im amazed. interesting thing is that its already outdated. fyi no windows phone needs custom roms, they are only for crappy droid phones which lag all the time so people try to improve them... and fail miserably. and please for the love of God dont speak of samsung support for legacy devices. my old optimus 7 was the same generation as the original galaxy s and is still actively getting updates. the galaxy s is stuck on what? froyo?? please. your s2 is what, half a year old? i bet it will stop getting updates when it reaches a full year. you droidboys kid yourselves, but android is only good on nexus devices cos google takes care of them, all the other samdung cr@p should be taken behind the barn and shot.
53. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
does your optimus 7 have WP8? no. my old galaxy S which I use as an alarm clock, is running Android 4.1.2, which is miles ahead of WP8, it runs just as smooth, and has more features.
So please, stop bulls**tting, i know you're mad that JB is kicking WP8's ass, but trust me, maybe WP27 will be your saviour
56. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
That must be an official rom on your s g1. Not? Lol. Android will never run as smooth as wp on similar hw, do not lie to yourself and others. Ive used a sh-tload of android phones and none ran as smooth as my lumia or optimus. And both of my phones are getting wp7.8, which will have most wp8 features.
Unlike android, wp has had project butter for two years now so you can show your saviour os...
60. myownchoice (Posts: 22; Member since: 31 Oct 2012)
Ha ha... i can feel the envy... lol... ok pal.. u njoy ur upcoming wp 7.8 update maybe next year which will have most of wp8.. whereas i njoy my phone with jellybean already on it and all of its features... too sad u have to live in the future...
63. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ok first if he has to live in the future are you saying he has a time machine? we all live in the present mate but your superiority complex from using android has made you into a cocky fandroid
tell me one thing what features that are essential does android have that cant be found on any other os?
ohh and maybe you need to start giving props to symbian which had the features you android boys brag about before it became ''cool''
62. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
seriously if your that happy why you trying to big up your jellybean....ohh thats right to try and feel better then others on here
its a little man that feels the need to attack others on just there choice of os
android fans are the new ifans cocky arrogant and think there superior to others
61. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
lmfao first let me set you straight dumbass (done trying to be nice to these fanboys muppets)
i dont own a lumia so ''ur last year lumia wont get wp8'' shows you didnt read my comment and just went into fanboy defence mode sad sack
custom roms omg no i didnt know, its not like every android user goes on about this in every article ohh wait they do and its not a feature its a work around
only one trying to praise anything is you with your s2, hows the camera on that btw mediocre right.
anyway how about you feck off fanboy and go to the android articles and be seen as a hero just by saying android cool
id rather not be associated with any tech lover if this is how you all now act ( ofcourse there are the good ones on here who have there preferance and dont slate others for theres) but this is aimed at you pathetic fanboys that are ruining this site