Report says Google doesn't want Android and Windows dual-OS devices to happen
0. phoneArena 07 Mar 2014, 04:18 posted on
According to a DigiTimes, Google has pressured ASUS to "postpone" its plans to release its Transformer Book Duet TD300 hybrid tablet. The device which runs Android and Windows 8.1 could result in an increased penetration rate for Windows, which would benefit Intel and Microsoft, but not Google. It appears there's no way for ASUS to please all its partners at once...
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1. Scott93274 (Posts: 4251; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Don't do it kids! Dual boot systems is a gateway drug! lol, I like Android more, though the idea of having a dual boot device would be pretty cool.
4. fouadqr (Posts: 326; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
Android is nothing compare to the Windows 8 PRO..
16. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Android is nothing compared to Windows 8 RT..
yes, the playstore has more apps but OS wise windows rt is a lot better
18. Finalflash (Posts: 2791; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Right, that's why the surface RT was a raging success.
20. papss (unregistered)
Sales success and quality done always go hand in hand.. Just saying
37. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
People still haven't figured out that for probably 90% of people, less is more. Apple figured that out already with the ipad and ios. MS is either ignorant or simply caters to another crowd.
WinRT still sucks. It's Win8 running on ARM, with all the crap that goes with it.
30. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
for a 1st gen product on a established markets it did well ,
it sold more than the Nexus 10 , a product with a OS with the booth feet on the market and at low price
66. sgodsell (Posts: 3326; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
So Android sold 120 million tablets last year alone. IOS 70 million, Windows was 4 million.
32. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
So by your reasoning Britney Spears is a better singer than Christina Aguilera and Jay-Z is a better rapper than Nas.
24. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
are you high? no os has apps as much as windows. there are millions of apps (programs) out there. if they are not in a store doesnt mean they dont exist. (x64 or x86 not that crippled rt)
67. sgodsell (Posts: 3326; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Tablets sales tell everything
43. buccob (Posts: 2518; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Well... I agree but believe it or not, I still like to do a few things on android rather than my Windows 8.1 Pro notebook...
MX Player is better than any Movie player app on Windows 8 or on desktop mode... also paired with my SubLoader app, I just forget about the tangle mess it was to download, extract, rename subtitles...
And finally my phone's CEC capabilities allows me to plug it to my TV and control it with the same remote.
My Walkman app is great to use, and it is my main music player... I have never used the Music App included in Windows 8.
Sometimes I rather use Apps instead of Web pages.. like 9GAG or Twitter... Most of the time I rather use the Google Maps app on my phone instead of the Bing Maps or even Gmaps on chrome...
I rarely use IMDB web page, translator, email (for reading)... and actually prefer to use the apps...
And I know many of those apps found on Android can be found on Windows 8 Store... but I like them more in Android interface...
Most of the time I play casual games... but I do play a couple on my notebook or Xbox...
2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Of course they don't, the Google-Lenovo-Samsung crossover deal is all about Chome OS entering the desktop and laptop market, professionally. And the best way to do so is to have the partners sell Chomebooks and Chrome PCs exclusively, no dual boot or Windows alternative.
3. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
What happened to googles "Don't be evil" motto?
9. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
I think they changed it to "Don't get Microd*cked".
19. Finalflash (Posts: 2791; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Gotta feel bad for MS a bit though, their OS is so bad that now it is piggybacking on another to gain traction. Kind of like a virus or malware.
21. papss (unregistered)
You mean like google does in the desktop area with crapbooks?
23. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
Dualboot is completely normal practice in PC world. Now tablets are practically PC's. Why are they tighed to one system only? There used to be practical reason: CISC vs RISC architecture. Now it looks, like engineers overcome it. So it's now pure politics. When company influences other company not to do something, that can be good for customers, that's evil politics.
38. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Dual booting isn't something that the average person ever does. I would do it because I do, but I'm not going to pay an extra $50 for a crappy OS to go with it, while others may.
Think of it - both OSes can't talk to each other, both can't share a common drive, and both can't share apps. It's nothing but complication, and of course MS wants it, so it must be bad.
69. phonetekmek (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)
These are not non profit companies. Google is not in the business to help their competion, even if it would be nice for the consumers. It's nothing evil about wanting to not help another company gain traction.
53. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
As much as MS tries to throw mud at Google....is anyone surprised by this?
Even with Apple...after all these years they allowed Windows to be ran along side OS X...but only on Apple hardware...
5. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1076; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
I don't blame Google at all. A dual boot system will take Android and introduce it to Windows even if Android will be a hit Windows will be able to take a ride on Adroid. Don't get me wrong I would use both, and I love Windows desktop for all you would be haters I also build servers, HTPC's, and PC desktops all based on Windows since 1994.
7. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
If it happen windows will take over all they need is people to at least try it. I personally love windows 8/8.1 its easy to use, but people are turn off by its new look, if its built in with Google, people would give it a try more and get use to it
8. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Google is afraid of MS in this sector as Android is nothing in front of Windows.
26. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
its a mobile os vs a real os. what else did you expect?
54. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Even for tablets I would probably pick Windows over Android for myself. For my kids....ecosystems n all I would get an Android tablet for them. Just load up my account on their tablet and all my apps, games are there for them to use.
10. joey_sfb (Posts: 5411; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Google need to innovate beyond windows. Focus on more powerful Android applications. Get Adobe to release a creative suit and Autodesk to release 3D studio for Android.
33. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Wont happen then again i have seen people flock to android in drone mode not knowing what it 'cant' do. I get the calls every day, "my boss sent me a doc on my note 3 and i cant open it." Then i have to tell them "yes because the note 3 out of the gate is not compatible with office software and you need 3rd party tools, and those tools are not garunteed but do try you luck with multiple apps to choose the one you like, cross your fingers it is free." Though i say it nicer.
42. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Let MS have the business world, and the rest of us have a clean working OS without all the legacy crap of windows.
48. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
clean working OS? so windows phone OS is what you prefer?
I have never taken a call for OS support from WP, that went like this. What does this live.process error mean. However, everyday on brand new note 3's or other phones i get the "how come the google.process error has stopped...
Our pod note 3 crashes weekly, there is no 3rd party apps and we master reset each week.
60. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Well WPos isn't winrt or win8. Which is why it actually works much better, if not perfect.
Let's put it this way - it took around 5 min to update my Nexus 7 from 4.3 to 4.4. It took 6.5 hours to do the same on a laptop to upgrade to 8.1. That's downright pathetic.
First half hour - failed to install 1 of 6 updates, force computer off to reboot. Next 1.5 hours, installing 38 updates. Next, about 2 hours to download the update of 3.6GB for 8.1 on a 30mbit connection. Then it checks for compatibility (why?), then it gathers information, then it installs, then it reboots around 3 or more times.
Glad I had other stuff to do while that pos less than one year old laptop needed to update!
47. znellu (Posts: 74; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Are you serious? Digital content creation in a smartphone? LOL!
55. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
What I would like to actually see is Linux desktop software being ran on Android. I think that might be a quicker approach.
12. timezone (Posts: 87; Member since: 16 Jun 2013)
Google's Don't be evil means please competition don't be evil...it is our job to be evil. Google does everything it can to kill competition.
44. Scott93274 (Posts: 4251; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
And Microsoft doesn't? Between the two, Microsoft is the company that was found guilty by the government to have an illegal monopoly, using its size and influence to force out competitors. The fact that Sony is ahead of them in the gaming market and Google & Apple are now ahead in the mobile market, and PC sales have been taking a massive dive, just goes to show how out of touch they are with consumers.
52. hulk_14 (Posts: 63; Member since: 14 Dec 2013)
>illegal monopoly, using its size and influence to force out >competitors.
It suits great to google!
13. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I don't blame them, wp is acting like a symbiotic parasite to gain traction anywhere it can.
34. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Like google has done with MS for years? Let me ask you, since windows since googles inception has held 90%+ of the PC market, google has ridden the success of MS penetration into the market, then made a competing browser, then a competing OS, all on the backs of MS.
How you forget google didnt pop out with android 4.x in hand and chrome OS and Chrome browser.
40. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Where did Android ride Winmob's sucess? Why do you think that a search engine "rides" success on windows when it runs on Linux servers, not MS?
I guess then apple "rode" MS success by putting itunes on windows huh? They owe it all to them!
49. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Yes because linux servers owned 90% of the market...do you actually believe what you just typed?
61. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Google's search engine is completely on linux servers.
Did you just misunderstand what I typed?
56. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Difference here would be that when Google was a lowly search engine.....they had no name, no recognition. Ppl chose to use the search engine ....because it was good, better than the competition.
A dual boot OS tablet would benefit MS more vs when Google was just a search engine because Android is waaaaay more popular in the tablet world than MS. A seacrh engine thats available on any web browser has a different battle to fight.
You do realize when Google was just a search engine it was going up against heavy weights like Yahoo, Alta Vista, Lycos, ect. What Google did with their search engine to now would be more like MS putting Bing or IE on Android devices. Or Google allowing Bing on Chrome....which they do...
Having a machine that dual boots an OS is alot bigger than search engines running on a browser. MS could...and I know they would....make sure any market share from that dual boot tablet leaves Android out in press releases, key notes, etc.
And...like it was mentioned....IE wasnt the only browser the search engine ran on. Its just happen to run on one with a huuuge market share.
Until today...I didnt realize the tight integration Google had with Netscape. Funny...before Netscape disappeared (or morphed in Firefox) I liked it alot more than IE...
58. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Now...I would like this and a dual boot would be perfect for me, my wants n needs.
But....like the link I posted....lets not act like Google depended on or relied on MS soley for their growth. They went all in with Netscape. And like the link I posted shows...they had positive results with Netscape.
59. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Just saw how Yahoo also went with Google to help with search results. How is this riding of the coat tails of MS? I dont even think MS had a search engine back then. A competing OS is a lil different.
They offered a product that was good, better and the competition took notice. if Google's search engine sucked...how would being available on IE, on Windows help, benefit it? That didnt help Excite, Alta Vista, Lycos, Yahoo, etc.
But hey....this could back fire and ppl that get the dual boot tablet use it more for Android stuff. I wanna see it happen now...just to see what happens.
14. JMartin22 (Posts: 1937; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
They're not trying to "kill" competition, they're trying to protect their own business project endeavors best interest from the competition. Using Windows and having access to Google services and their mobile ecosystem destroys the purpose behind what they're trying to create with their desktop-class OS
22. papss (unregistered)
Nice spin on reality.
35. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
So.....It is ok to ride the success of MS, but not the other way around...yea real smart
41. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Sure idiot. Why don't you then suggest MS take all their apps off the google play store? Oh wait they don't ride on android's success at all huh?
50. elitewolverine (Posts: 5113; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
oh the idiot monkey, re-read it, understand it. It is hard i know.
I didnt say anything of taking anything down, i know your mind thought i did, but no that was your delusional state of mind. Welcome to PA
62. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Ok retard! You still think Google rode on MS success, seeing how MSN/Live?Bing never made MS a dime?
Whatever makes you sleep at night!
17. ardiralph (Posts: 8; Member since: 13 Jun 2013)
Of course it's a NO. One main point is prices of android devices will go up. That's for sure.
28. strikercho (banned) (Posts: 156; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
But of course Giggle wouldn't want this :)))
31. SamDroid (unregistered)