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Report says Apple iPhone 5S will feature 12MP camera with improved low-light performance

0. phoneArena 16 Apr 2013, 00:50 posted on

According to a source who works for Wonderful Saigon Electrics, the next iteration of the Apple iPhone will carry a 12MP camera. Although Wonderful Saigon Electrics makes camera modules for Apple, that doesn't automatically make this solid information. The Apple iPhone 5S is due after the Summer, according the story, and will do a much better job at taking pictures under low-light conditions than the current camera on the phone. Apple was pushed to improve low-light picture taking after the success that the Nokia Lumia 920 has had with its camera in this area...

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posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:02 12

1. phonewarz (Posts: 9; Member since: 03 Apr 2013)


I'm looking forward to Google I/o next month. I think they'll bring great news in the camera department.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 05:08

44. maier9900 (Posts: 272; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


You forgot to mention Android and blackberry in your comment...

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 14:21

52. Topcat488 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


You forgot to mention that the Note III, will be coming in September! Which is the "Mightiest of all the Flagships" around...

until next September. By then, the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 will be not quite 6 months old, and iOS fans are going to be climbing the walls.

Forgot about the "TRUE FLAGSHIP" of Samsung!

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 05:19

46. maier9900 (Posts: 272; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


...and WP7

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:05 5

2. moronman66 (Posts: 159; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


A highly realistic sounding upgrade, I wouldn't doubt it at all, either a 12 or 13 megapixel camera sounds good, the 13 because the S4 has that, and it sounds better to have the same number, not a lower number than the opposition. Marketing is king for companies who succeed!

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:15 1

7. drum009 (Posts: 33; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)


I agree. Marketing is king but apple does a good job with it. They have succeeded even though almost every "number" they have is less than top tier android phones.... screen size, camera size, battery size, cpu cores, etc. (just referring to hardware).
I'm an android user :) and won't switch to another OS anytime soon.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 00:51

31. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


they will play the game of catch up with the latest flagship. Sony makes the first move in MP count (12MP/13MP). Then followed by LG and Samsung, this time Apple because people will be expecting a higher MP mounted on the iPhone. :) It would be disappointing and that means jumpship from iOS to Android and WP. You don't want that to happen apple right?

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 01:01

32. daftastic (Posts: 87; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)


As long as they do the camera's software right, the megapixel count wouldn't matter. The MP count would matter to only the shallow people who look at specs instead of what counts in the real world. I could get technical about why megapixels don't matter, but that would be a wall of text.

If you didn't notice, the iPhone 5 just won the blind camera test provided by Phonearena themselves. If you deny that the iPhone 5 has a great camera, then you would be just another fanboy.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 03:12

35. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


I agree, it does depend on the camera software. What i'm implying here is that people will look at the MP count, (Not me included of course) and when they see 1 mobile having 8MP vs 13MP, they will stupidly choose 13 over the other. But for iphone having an awesome camera software, and mount in 13MP (from sony) you may get better images than SG4/XZ/H1/NL92x. That's just an opinion..

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:07 10

3. darkkjedii (Posts: 11228; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Apples camera tech is outstanding. Rework the OS please.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:11 4

4. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Apple does 2 things very well, GPU and Camera other than that really nothing except average/below average besides their manipulation of the US population.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:15 5

9. darkkjedii (Posts: 11228; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude...is this not a camera related article?

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 00:47 1

30. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


youre right, iToys need marketing when they are not capable to innovate :)
and what's worse:
"iPhones most 'vulnerable' among smartphones" - have to say disastrous security!
goo [dot] gl/WF2kj

the same with MACs....everything Apple produces

more and more inferior product :)

in the times Android has multi-user API, iConboards are still not able to copy, open any file, funny how stup*dity wins :)

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 05:18 2

45. maier9900 (Posts: 272; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


"Vulnerable and disastrous security".... Let me correct you on that statement, Out of all mobile smartphones, android is the number 1 most vulnerable operating system among all other issues. Android holds the title with 95% of malware in the market compared to other Operating systems. The other 5% is shared between the rest. It is more wrong for you to say "same with Mac's" and "everything apple produces". You've either got serious issues or just hatched.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 05:52

47. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


you lie, no Android is one of the most secure platform: you know what any app can do before installation.....

iToys or Microsoft is 10 year behind this security ;)

iPhones are the most vulnerable phones (OS) in the world, simply deal with that ;)

malware on Android? = an app you installed after checking the permissions by yourself and you can easily uninstall ;)

freedom requires responsibility, you are st*pid so you need someone to take care about you = Apple :)

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 09:53

51. maier9900 (Posts: 272; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


woow, you must've thought hard for those words.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:13 10

5. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6440; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


just too let u know they are using SONY'S EXMOR SENSOR camera

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:15 10

8. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


And they will actually optimize their software correctly unlike Sony. Its sad, Camera software is lagging on sonys phones but it is getting better with every flagship to where its on level/above iphone atm. No doubt though the first iphone with the new exmor is going to be a great camera. Even though I hate apple, I will admit that.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:50 3

15. Hemlocke (unregistered)


We agree, for a change. Apple does camera optimization well, and other OEMs would do well to follow that lead. The hardware is only one piece of tho puzzle.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 01:08

33. daftastic (Posts: 87; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)


How could it be hardware when Android devices have better specs than most PC's in the world?

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:16 1

10. darkkjedii (Posts: 11228; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You didn't need to let me know that.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:00 5

21. wendygarett (unregistered)


You are just a blind follower that does not know anything on tech, that's why you must be informed :)

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 04:16 1

41. darkkjedii (Posts: 11228; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


And you are spam, that flip flops his/her choice of OS with every post.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 05:48

53. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6440; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Yes u do. U think apple is god of all technology. But guess wat their not. They buy other companies and they never invented the touch screen phone. Ur just a blind poor fanboy that doesnt like any company copying them. Give it a rest already.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 22:25 3

19. opensourceftw (banned) (Posts: 148; Member since: 01 Jan 2013)


Don't you mean SONY'S camera tech is outstanding? Since they were the ones who actually made it. Freaking apple derpers man...

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 04:17

42. darkkjedii (Posts: 11228; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Nooooo... I meant what I said

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:14

6. akki20892 (Posts: 3441; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Let see what apple bring out in their event...!!!

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 00:45 2

29. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


just marketing, nothing more.....iToys need marketing when they are not capable to innovate :)
and what's worse:
"iPhones most 'vulnerable' among smartphones" - have to say disastrous security!
goo [dot] gl/WF2kj

more and more inferior product :)

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 09:37

49. akki20892 (Posts: 3441; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


i know that men apple doesn't bring great thing in their event. just saying

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:30 1

11. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)


iPhone's camera is already one of the best. PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE CHANGE THOSE UGLY SUPER STATIC ICONS AND PLEASE DITCH that 1 HAND operational screen.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:38 4

13. bucky (Posts: 1402; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


You want to have to use both hands at all times on your phone??? That's one of the reasons I'm still using the iPhone. If there was a top spec android phone with 4.3" screen is be using it. Sgs2 international is still the best android I'v ever used.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:55

16. Hemlocke (unregistered)


The i9100, and if you have big enough hands, the NII, are Sammy's best phones, to date. I owned the 777, as well as three S3's (9300, and two U.S. variants), as well as the international NI, and I didn't like any of them. The GNex was okay, but i liked the Nexus S better.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:36 4

12. mikeguy1981 (Posts: 54; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


I love how apples best camera is currently a 8mp but all new android phones have 13mp and apple considers 12mp a upgrade. When compared to android devices apples upgrade is still considered a step backward to the android community. I don't get why people still buy apple phones.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 21:39 8

14. bucky (Posts: 1402; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


The iPhone 5 still has the best camera even with a lower number. Typical, chasing specs for no reason...

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 22:28 5

20. opensourceftw (banned) (Posts: 148; Member since: 01 Jan 2013)


apple likes to pander to the hipsters and soccer moms that still buy their novelties. Since hipsters like retro, apple likes to be two years behind Android. Hell they're behind Windows and RIM at this point.
But they are very shiny and pretty.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 04:03 1

40. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


The veneralbe Nokia N8 also has a 12MP shooter. The difference is its sensor is relatively massive at 1/1.83, versus the rest of the field which is operating in the 1/3rd range. Coupled with more precise optics (Carl Zeiss), a properly spec'd Xenon flash and tailored algorithms....this is what makes the difference...not simply the number of MegaPixels.

I'm sure, at least I hope, Apple has more up its sleave than a simple megapixle increase. Based on its recent track record in this area and ability to invest, I suspect this is the case.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 22:07 1

17. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5404; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


They may be using Sony's Exmor RS Sensor, or they're may be using Nokia's PureView! :P

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 09:38

50. akki20892 (Posts: 3441; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


nokia never give their tech to anyone.
it's unique tech from nokia so.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 22:23 3

18. opensourceftw (banned) (Posts: 148; Member since: 01 Jan 2013)


Wow. Maybe they can put more than 3 options in the camera menu. Seriously, I was unfortunate enough to get a demo iphone 5 and it literally has 3 different "settings".

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:03 1

22. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Too bad it will be attached to an iphail.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:12 3

24. byazatt (Posts: 159; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Apple iPhone 5 camera already shines in many aspects ..low light will really be a plus. How I wish Samsung followed the same path.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 03:59

39. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


If Apple installed a single lens OIS, like HTC One, I bet the low light performance would improve materially. They can't do the Nokia route due to patents, but the more conventional HTC appraoch is also possible.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:18

25. byazatt (Posts: 159; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


come to think of it, this low light thing might be software based because if they are using Sony's Exmor RS Sensor,then I doubt the hardware is wired with real low light potential like say HTC one or lumia 920.. just thinking.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:34

26. BigBoss10 (Posts: 232; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)


12 MegaS H I T :D

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 23:41

27. shamataa (Posts: 202; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


If you people think Apple will do this you are not a smart person. Just saying from past history and collect it and brainstorm it.Why would you take low light photos anyways?.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 00:07 2

28. quakan (Posts: 1181; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


Well, think about why people haven't taken many low light photos....got it yet? Because they don't have a camera optimized for such things and their photos always turn out too dark or look unnatural with the flash on.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 02:08

34. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)


And then they will call it innovation and sue Nokia and HTC :D

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 03:14

36. boosook (Posts: 992; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


LOL... Apple is chasing competitors now. But there are only two ways to improve low-light performance: 1) use a bigger sensor (or a lower resolution), and 2) use an optical stabilizer.
The Nokia 920 uses (2), while the HTC One uses both (1) and (2).
These solutions are hardware-based. There is also a third way, which is only marketing gimmick (a software-only solution): a sort of night mode that pumps up the sensitivity (ISO). Something tells me that Apple will choose this last option, will give it a name like "Digital Stabilizer" and will try to market it as equivalent to hardware solutions...

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 03:58

38. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


Actually, the HTC's sensor is not any larger than the compeititions here. Only the indivudal pixel size is larger (2 micron versus 1.4)...but this is not as impactful as an overall sensor size increase.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 03:56

37. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


Unless Apple increases the physical size of the sensor, I can't see how an increase to the new 12MP spec will have a material benefit to the consumer. It only serves to address a perception gap, nothing more. It may, in fact, push beyond the limits of the 1/3rd sensor and degrade performance relative to the current 8MP shooter. To really get a benefit, Apple would need to introduce a larger sensor...but that would imply moving away from its thin/design mantra.

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 04:19

43. yero789 (unregistered)


The iPhones have one of the best camera's on the phone!I mean it's sensor is made by e Sony,but Sony's smartphones have such a bad cameras(well it's not too bad,but compared to iPhone or Samsung Galaxy S3 or S4,they are pretty poor.I hope Sony will fix this soon!And the iPhone with 12mp camera would be great! :)

posted on 16 Apr 2013, 06:47

48. ryq24 (Posts: 492; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


12mp is useless if it does not have a 5" screen!

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