Report claims that the App Store has up to a 90% market share in mobile apps
0. phoneArena 21 Nov 2011, 12:15 posted on
According to Gene Munster, since opening its doors, the Android Market has brought in only 7% of the gross revenues generated by Apple's App Store over the same time period which leads the analyst to state that the latter has a 85-90% market share in the mobile app market...
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1. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
90% of revenue and developers prefer. Looking good for us iPhone users. Please don't try to discredit this study.
28. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm not sure how Apple making more money is "Looking good for us iPhone users." Isn't this good for Apple and developers?
62. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
First time I played Infinity Blade on my iPod Touch 4G -- I couldn't believe graphics for a portable device could be this amazing. It was due to the retina display. After I got my iPad2, downloaded IB and played it with the A5 chip and it was unbelievable -- I just couldn't put the game down.
Also, I bought the Oxford Dictionary app it was way better than my Franklin talking dictionary that I spent $100 on. Plus, there's no need to carry two devices now.
There are a lot of specialized apps that can enrich your life. Yeah, one of app that cost $10 helped me make over $10,000 over a six month period.
64. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ardent, it couldnt have been just the retina display if you loved it on both the ipad and the i4, since the ipad doesnt sport the same high rez goodness.
its just a very pretty game. :)
49. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
LOL, if I were an APPLE user, then it would not - I have a ton of MALWARE-free apps that I paid NADA for....except for 2 - TIBU and that crazy unicorn game....
54. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I dunno...I don't mind paying for Apps. Many apps aren't made by companies, but independent developers and I like the idea that if they make a great product then they are rewarded for it. I also like that Apple goes out of it's way to feature large developers as well as independent ones on the featured page.
But both app stores have their reasons for drawing developers. You can't ignore Android because of the large market share it has on smartphones. But on the other side, you are more likely to make more money on Apple side of things.
61. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
True. Also, I wish Android would adopt more of the Apple model and institute some kind of approval process for app developers. No process is 100% of course, but I download paid and free apps with a WHOLE LOT less scrutiny on my iPad than I do on any of my Android devices. In the Android market, I'm alway looking carfully at the permissions. It's something we should all do anyway, but the confidence that comes with downloading from the AppStore unfortunately isn't a feeling I get in the App Market. And market cards would help too. I know that's a direct copy from Apple, but it works...use it? This would make paying for apps a little more appealing for customers who normally hunt for the free stuff. Gift a card...rake in the profits...attract even more developers.
67. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I had this PC software or app on my home PC and laptop for a hobby of mine. I knew the software company made an app for the Apple ecosystem and at $10, it was a specialized app. I'll be surprised if more than 300 people would buy the app.
The reason I got it was because the iPod was completely portable and I could carry it anywhere. You couldn't say the same thing about a laptop or netbook. I took the iPod everywhere I went and used to make money.
The app included an analyzer that told me if the situation was profitable or not. Being a portable device with great battery life, I was able to spend 5X more time than in the past with the pen and paper and rushing to the laptop for an analysis.
In my case, I got the device -- a 32GB itouch 4G -- just to use a $10 app. Since it made a ton of money, I had no problem buying the iPod for my friends so they could do the same.
74. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the last report about money that came out said the obvious. developers make more money UP FRONT on apple since most of the apps are paid. But developers tend to make more money over the long term on Android since they are advert based.
So the best answer is be like rovio and a few others.. make for both. Get that up front money on apple, then get the long term residuals from android.
2 app markets run very differently to achieve the same goal. and that was also the point of my first comment.
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, sure, android has more free apps.. that we knew.
1) it doesnt even mention advertise enabled apps, which are the bread n butter of the android market.
2) apple doesnt come with any real apps on it, so they have to download much of the stuff that comes as "basics" on an android phone. I'm sure that even after that apple users download more, but that will count in some of the app disparity.
apple will probably still win this little contest, but include all income (up front and residual from advertisements), not just upfront income, so we can get a real feel for market $$.
ok trolls,, come n get me. Remix has posted, so now you can blind attack! :)
3. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You're the one trolling here. You're trying to put your little spin on this just like anything else that's positive for Apple.
"But all 45 developers that he polled said that iOS was the easier of the two platforms to write for and to monetize their work. "
ALL 45 DEVELOPERS. Do you think developers don't know about advertising?
2) iPhone comes with lots of built in apps. What apps are on android preloaded that aren't on iPhone? I'm assuming you're not counting bloat ware as apps.
6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thanks for proving me right guys. is just seeing my name like a dinner bell to blind comment? lol. neither of you actually read what I wrote.
Just tested a theory and you proved me right.
10. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I responded to both your points so where do you get we didn't read it?
8. superguy (Posts: 272; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
And do you think there are just 45 developers out there?
I find it ironic that when there\'s a bad report out there, you\'re sitting there spinning and justifying, but when there\'s one that supports you, you get all spun up about others doing the same and not wanting them to discredit.
There\'s a word for that: hypocrisy. Physician, heal thyself.
12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm not spinning anything it's you fandroids desperate to prove android is better.
It's ok your buggy Nexus will be out "sometime this year" with no flash and 16gb no other option for memory.
Try not to listen to music on it as it randomly adjusts the volume.
14. superguy (Posts: 272; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
\"I\'m not spinning anything it\'s you fandroids desperate to prove android is better.\"
Do we really have to go thru your posts?
\"It\'s ok your buggy Nexus will be out \"sometime this year\" with no flash and 16gb no other option for memory.\"
You mean like the iPhone? Only difference is the iPhone is out now and you have the option of paying upwards of $200 for more memory.
\"Try not to listen to music on it as it randomly adjusts the volume.\"
So you\'re not going to talk about how the 4S has battery issues either? Hey, all phones have bugs right ...?
21. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
told you the nexus is buggy out of the box... all phones have issues.. but when they ar enot even relased.. yet..hmmm ohh wait ..Americans dont have the phone yeat. so they are blinding defending a phone not released in the States... typical Androids... so Remix tell me about the SGSIII again?..
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hmm.. the SGS3
Octocore, 1440p holographic images that pop about 5 feet off the phone.. 3nm thick.. 20 min charge for a battery that lasts 3 months with straight video. .. oh and when you play music, giant floor speakers pop out of the device. Awesome sound.
You dont even wanna know what happens when u watch porn. :)
56. robinrisk (unregistered)
Actually, now i kinda want to know. :P
43. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6979; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
ALL PHONES have BUGS EVEN THE Iphone 4s ect.
70. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
@gallito at least droid don't make up stuff like iphone ,stop eating apples it's gone in to your head. APPLE HEAD
17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
as many bugs as the 4s has had since launch, u want to try to pick on another phone for 1 bug? lol. taco, stop trolling.
31. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"It's ok your buggy Nexus will be out "sometime this year" with no flash and 16gb no other option for memory."
It seems that VZW is delaying the release so that the issues can be fixed before the handsets get into users hands. As opposed to iDevices, where the issue is first denied (antenna-gate) and then free covers are provided to mitigate the issue. Who knows, Flash may be released for ICS right when the GALAXY Nexus is ready. Which contrasts with Flash being banned from iDevices.
"Try not to listen to music on it as it randomly adjusts the volume."
Kind of hard to do with a phone that hasn't been released yet. You have a stronger argument if the G-Nexus is only available with 16 Gb, but instead, you chose to focus on an issue that will be resolved.
33. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Where in the above post is remixfa saying Android is better? He is offering his opinion which in this case is valid. It does not make this report invalid but it does point out that it may not be a 100% accurate view on app market share.
Ya dumb ass.
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
which 45 developers. if they were big names like Rovio that are on both platforms, they would have named them. Im also pretty sure that there are well more than 45 developers out there.. lol.
notice how i didnt even touch that comment in my original post? oh wait.. u didnt even read my post..
13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I responded directly to you and you choose to troll instead of respond.
What apps remix?
The 45 developers was in response to ad revenue not being included and all 45 developers saying its easier to monetize apps on ios.
20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
taco, they were talking about PAID apps only. there was NO mention of ad revenue which is the VAST MAJORITY of where the money is at on android. That was my point.
Just like if they ONLY compared ad revenue, it would look like android is destroying apple apps, since thats the way the android market has been set up since day 1. Its an incomplete picture.
you sure do get worked up when u think u somehow won something. ... lol.
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
iPhone apps also have ad revenue so not sure what your point is here.
Look it's obvious that android users are mostly broke teenagers. We all know you guys hate to pay for anything. Even .99 for an app is too much for an android user.
Pirating music, apps, movies etc is what android users are all about.
26. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hey, if u wanna spend your mom's money when you dont have to because their is a legal way that you can have the app, and the dev still gets paid.. thats on you.
study after study has shown that long term app revenue nets developers more over all than a 1 time up front fee. so who is really being paid? Unless your going to tell me that Rovio, the biggest mobile developer, is full of crap.
and i already explained that point.. if u dont get it, thats on you.
34. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Some day you will learn.
Then again, probably not.
15. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you didnt respond to my points lol. because if you did, there wouldnt have been such a blind troll response. and to answer your question, my SGS1 which comes kinda light compared to some other phones for apps came with 48 apps. And almost all of them are things I use. except maybe 2 or 3. How many did your iphone come with?
PS right now i have about 135 apps active on my phone and another 20 or so stored in Titanium for when i need them.
19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's bloat ware. You just said you don't use them.
You still can't respond to my question of which apps that are not bloat ware your phone comes with and iPhone doesn't.
You also proved my point by immediately trying to discredit this study.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what part did i discredit exactly? The part where I said
apple will still win in overall downloads
or where i said
apple will still win in over all money
hmm.. which one was wrong?? yea, reading comprehension is a good thing taco.
and ok.. 2 or 3 of 48 means that 45 were not bloatware to me. bloatware is subjective. Other android phones come with a lot more.
how many apps come on an iphone?
36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
woops.. been over an hour and no responce though hes posting on the other boards. Guess thats his way of saying he knows hes wrong like normal. :)
39. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
He wanted to show you how good he was at starting arguments and then running away when gets proved wrong.
He's wicked good at that.
45. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6979; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Taco just keepa reapting himself like a broken record on every article
41. cybervlad81 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)
So if All 45 Polled said Apple was easier, but only 47% of those polled developed for both, So for all to say apple was easier, you would have to guess they all developed for iOS. That said if you are somewhere that every developer you poll is an iOS developer, probably going to get a bit of a bias answer, and on top of that 53% of them answered that apple was easier even though they don't program for android.
4. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
from one troll to another.. remix... 2016?... tell that lunatic Illia that Apple will live past 2015.. please... remix... well come out of the closet.. please... we all know you are a troll.. might as well wear the costume...
7. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Remix is one of the biggest trolls on here throwing out half truths or lies that are always anti Apple. Fandroids don't care about trolls as long as they're anti Apple
35. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Remix is probably one of the most objective posters on this site. He may not always be right, but his posts are generally pretty well thought out.
If you believe otherwise you are f**kin' retarded.
Quit crying over the fact that the people on this site (whether you think they are "fandroids" or not is another thing altogether) just simply disagree with your dumb as f**k opinion.
44. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wow are you tow dating..because if you guys are..is called conflict of interest.... like I say.. calling people names only shows... your.. class.. so please show some.. this is a public forum...
53. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
I have more class than you have grammatical blunders, and that is saying something.
59. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
we both know that i have grammatical errors and you are..well.. uneducated as has to resort to that kind of language to prove a point...
72. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
I spit my drink all over the screen. Bless you for that laugh I just had!
65. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so.. everyone has to be at everyone's throat, gallito? we cant show mutual respect to each other and give credit where credit is due?
so were we dating when i gave you credit for being right? When I said taco was right about something.. were we dating too?
or is it only dating when the other person acknowledges that you said they were right or did something well? screw politeness, right?
for some reason, i'll take my philosophy over yours. :)
hey its ok, tomorrow taco will compile a random list of things he didnt win, but says he did.. bet money this will be in the list.. lol.
40. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Taco is one of the biggest trolls on here throwing out half truths or lies that are always anti Android. iTrolls don\'t care about trolls as long as they\'re anti Android
47. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
is not a contest whom is bigger. this site being pro android.. what else can you expect..right?.. anyhow.. who are you again?...
66. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
which set of writers is pro android? the ones that run all the iphone rumors, or victor that runs tech articles... or michael that writes those nice introspective pieces we like. please.. inform me.
9. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
no, i told you, my closet has a 60 inch flat screen, skyrim, a keg of beer, and a kick ass lazy boy chair. no way im coming out of my closet, and no, theres no way u can come in. :)
16. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
i figured... but i am sure T-Mo signal is not strong in buildings... not to mention closet... can you hear me now?...
18. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
dont know who told you that. I get full HSPA+ in the middle of a big thick hospital that I work at. I get better service in there than VZW and Sprint. Surprising? yea.. but like anything its all about where you are located.
24. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I had T-Mo once.. and paid the ETF because as soon as I went into a building...lost signal... their customer service si horrendous... hope they get bought .. to fix some of that...
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
any carrier is like that depending on where you live.. from metro to VZW.
its all relative.
and you think that because the bigger (yet worse signal) company is buying tmobile something is going to improve? lol, 98% of their markets over lap. it might get a little better once its all ATT, but not much. your iphone will still drop calls . :)
29. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
alas, i forgot to mention that building coverage is also determined by what type of tech you use. GSM is easily blocked by a thick building compared to CDMA. GSM 3g is much faster, but CDMA travels farther per tower. ATT buying Tmo isnt going to cure the GSM in building issue in most cases.
48. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
lol.. please.. in PA people may believe your nonsense in the real world.. T-Mo is garbage.. thats why they are last amongs top carriers...
46. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6979; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Stop repeating yourself its getting old.