Report: Tizen flavored handsets from Samsung and DoCoMo to launch in 2013
0. phoneArena posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:18
Japan's largest carrier, DoCoMo, and Korean manufacturer Samsung are teaming up to offer handsets powered by the open source Tizen OS which will be released globally at the same time; DoCoMo is the only one of Japan's major carriers not to offer the Apple iPhone and is hoping that Tizen will prove to be a hit...
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1. CRICKETownz posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:21 6 5
Tizen = the new Bada which was a horrible idea but hey, you never know i guess.
2. SkOne posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:40 4 1
Except Tizen isn't a Samsung proprietary OS, but hey, you never know i guess.
10. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 03:52 2 0
Right, long live open source
I think Tizen has great potential, but SS and Intel must build the ecosystem and hopefully we see it become a viable alternative to Android.
Sammy, please release a serious Tizen phone and not just use it as back up plan for Android.
8. Dr.Phil posted on 31 Dec 2012, 03:36 3 0
Except Tizen has the backing of carriers like Sprint in the U.S. so it will actually be given a chance. Also, I don't think Bada was open-source until recently. Also, Bada didn't have the backing of another big company like Intel. So, I think it has a pretty good shot at becoming a major player in the mobile OS world if the app development and hardware to back it up is there.
34. PhenomFaz posted on 31 Dec 2012, 13:01 0 0
Bada was never a horrible idea...it was a good effort that didnt last but sooner or later that way is the future. Instead of relying on android or any othe third party OS the best result in tech is always obtained when the hardware and sotware are made by the same company. the optimization done in that case is perfect.
3. pokharkarsaga posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:40 4 2
Android will be the king of open source mobile OS for at least next five years,followed by closed source OS like IOS,RIM & WP. Many mobile oses like tizen,jolla,firefox os,Web os will come & go.
11. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 03:56 6 0
Android is not afraid of competition, Google know once it becomes a monopoly it will lose competitive edge just like MS.
Tizen will help make Android even better.
15. kartik4u98 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 06:53 0 0
I know that android isn't afraid of the competition bit other OSs are..
you can take the example of iOs....
ANDROID is and will be the king of mobile OS war maybe for next 5 years..!
16. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 07:05 0 0
I agree, I wish Tizen well but I don't believe Tizen can compete with Android in 5 years. Google is much stronger in software than SS so SS must spend billions of dollars on Tizen for it to catch up (no guarrantee though) therefore frankly I'm skeptical about Tizen's future.
4. kartik4u98 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 02:41 6 0
Competition is always nice!
2013's new os- sailfish,tizen,bb10,firefox os
waiting to see which one would be more intuitive and smooth!!
19. therealestmc posted on 31 Dec 2012, 08:22 0 1
Or Samsung can copy everything in android and put it in tinzen. How hard is that really? You are talking about a company that does not any respect for other's intellectual properties.
20. a_tumiwa posted on 31 Dec 2012, 09:11 0 0
dont forget that WebOs is also become Free and Open
7. darkskoliro posted on 31 Dec 2012, 03:17 0 0
actually it looks a lot like flyme OS than anything else..
17. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 07:09 0 0
It's no shame to learn from Android, but Tizen must bring something new to differentiate itself from Android.
So 90% is not bad
21. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 10:15 0 0
Much like Android rippped off iOS? SJ klept saying that forever. I don;t mind a competitor to Android at all. Google isn't sanit but probably less evil than Apple and M$ ... but evil surely they are.
25. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 10:50 0 0
Man, I think what you say is very ridiculous. A person with a flaw does not necessarily mean he is a bad man. We must judge any1 in big picture and not on a single thing.
Are people better off with Google? I think most people will say yes.
26. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:03 0 0
Opinions always change with time. More options will always be better for consumers so i would love to have more players in any segment so that none could take consumers for granted. I hate bthe notion of 3 or 4 companies controlling the world wide web, communications, telecom etc etc :)
30. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:20 0 0
Man, what if some1 says your ARE a evil person b-c in future you might change and may commit a crime?
we don't know what Google will become in the future but we can't say Google is evil now.
Google does not take any1 for granted now and they work hard to win over their customers. But Google cannot offer alternatives to themselves, other companies must do that.
35. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 13:54 0 0
Can you please read the "Fragmentation" clause in Licensing terms of Android SDK and explain what it actually means and why it was added recently? I mean the need for that clause from a byestander's point of view ... we don't see anything of that sort in LINUX world ... we are only presuming google is not evil. Perhaps this could be one of reasons why sammy is probing Tizen route :)
36. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 19:30 0 0
Linux is different from Google, of course we wish every company were like Linux, but that's just not possible.
Google offers Android as open source, not the SDK. If open source community want their own SDK they have to do that themselves.
Google is a company and not a non-profit organisation so they must protect their own interests and we have to respect that.
37. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:13 0 0
Google dropping support for EAS is one small step in taking customers for granted. Give them more market share and they will be next Apple ... deciding what works best for users under the garb of dropping support for proprietory protocols.
38. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:11 0 0
I don't think so, I support open and free software. If ActiveSync is free then Google was wrong to drop it. But ActiveSync is not free so people should pressure MS to drop the fees and not blame Google for some1 else's evil.
39. rusticguy posted on 01 Jan 2013, 15:49 0 0
Do you know the installed userbase of Exchange or Exchange alternative solutions on Linux (Axigen/Scalix/Zimbra/Kerio/Zarafa/etc)?.
All those who work on Outlook and sharing will never give up these systems no matter what google preaches and coprorates value email communication and collaboration more than anything else. So many would be foreced to switch to Windows/iOS because both support Exchange active sync. I wouldn't care much if i cannot play angry birds on my phone but a phone which doesn't allow me to sync my exchange account is a useless device no matter if the os is free or not.
40. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 01 Jan 2013, 20:56 0 0
Do you know that Google still support ActiveSync for business users and those who are already using it?
12. gazmatic posted on 31 Dec 2012, 04:57 1 0
Please people research before you comment. Tizen, sailfish, meego, maemo = true opensource. Android = partially open source. Ios, wp = walled garden. I have three new phones to buy in 2013: tizen, jolla and bb10. Just keep prices below $500. There is a lil something for everybody in '13. Iphone5s, samsung gs4, sony xperia, etc
13. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 05:55 0 0
why Android is partial open source?
18. Firedrops posted on 31 Dec 2012, 08:08 0 0
Because while Google puts up Android source codes and all for anyone to freely download and use, Android is not fully open source because in the end, only Google's software engineers directly contribute to Android itself.
Those other millions of devs that have added features using Google's code don't get their work added into the official Android.
22. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 10:16 0 0
And you forgot CM were on the verge of being sued by google once upon a time. So google is not completely devoid of being an Evil if need be.
24. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 10:40 0 0
I don't know about Google suing CM, but I think you demand too much from Google, even saints are not perfect.
As far as I know CM is doing well and Google has no intention to stop them.
Amazon, a big competitor to Google, also can use Android to compete with Google. Amazon apps can be downloaded from Play Store.
Comparing to the rest of the industry I don't think any other company comes close.
23. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 10:27 0 0
I think you have a differerent definition of open source than the generally accepted one.
This is the definition from Wikipedia:
"Generical, open source refers to a program in which the source code is available to the general public for use and/or modification from its original design free of charge, i.e., open."
27. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:06 0 0
Is Android GPL'd like Linux kernel?
29. iCandy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:18 0 0
Yes, the ASOP is.
31. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:22 0 0
Ok the following needs a read (though old article) ... not sure if google has worked around it to escape the allegation nof privatizing LINUX :)
32. iCandy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:23 0 0
You miss the point of Open Source. Its not that the community has the authority to demand a distribution make changes, but rather that the community may acquire the code of the distribution, make any changes they wish and then offer those modifications within their own distribution. An example is Cyanogen, among others. To this point, Android is Open Source.
28. iCandy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:17 0 0
Honestly, Tizen and Jolla's Sailfish are not and will not be truly Open Source (as in the General Public License). And most certainly BB10 will be even less so. You criticise Android for having elements that are not open source, and this is true. Worst of all, Android does not adhere to the GPL which legally Linux variants must conform to (but who is to enforce?). To uphold the GPL, all software distributed with any Linux variant, whether it is OS tweaks, applications or hardware drivers must also be distributed as Open Source. This is not the case for Android; but nor can it possibly be for Tizen, Jolla's Sailfish or BB10. Hardware drivers for most of the communication hardware and critical 1st and 3rd party apps, think maps, games, facebook, twitter, etc. will not be Open Source anytime soon. And I haven't heard of BB claiming they intend to release BB Messenger's code to the masses, nor, as I'm convinced, will they.
33. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 11:38 0 0
Can you tell me what elements of Android are not open source? (tks :)