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Rare inside look at Foxconn reveals how Apple products are made (video)

0. phoneArena 20 Feb 2012, 05:59 posted on

Here’s something you’ve never seen before - Foxconn from the inside. Famous for making the best selling Apple gadgets, the Chinese factory employes over 200,000 people…

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posted on 20 Feb 2012, 20:19

51. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


The FLA is a corperate sponsored and directed front group for good publicity.

"The association was founded in 1999, by universities and nonprofit groups, along with Nike, Liz Claiborne and several other American apparel companies that said they were eager to eliminate workplace abuses; "

The worst offenders in the apparel world founded the FLA. Do you really think they founded the company to change themselves, which they could have done without the company... or do u think its a front group for positive "official looking" press?. Do you really think that apparel working conditions have dramatically improved since 1999? The fox is guarding and inspecting the hen house and telling you everything is fine.

"The association’s monitors inspected 190 factories in 2010, out of the 4,703 supplier factories that its member companies use. While that represents 4 percent of the factories, each company is required to do an annual assessment of each factory."
- you see that? each company does ITS OWN assessment the majority of the time. How much change do you think that brings? OI...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/technology/critics-question-record-of-fair-labor-association-apples-monitor.html

here is a list of people that donate to the FLA. Do some research yourself and see how many of those companys have been dinged for excessive human rights issues. There are quite a few.

http://www.fairlabor.org/fla/go.asp?u=/pub/mp&Page=ParticipatingCompany

The FLA is a company that was started by Nike and other apparel manufacturers to "bring change" to the apparel business. It is paid for almost exclusively by apparel companies.

Ask your self why a group of apparel companies would create an outside company to look at themselves. Why dont they just make the changes themselves if they are serious? Because the FLA sounds nice so it makes for nice publicity. This way they get to "talk about" making changes instead of actually "making" changes.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:14 2

52. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


okay so its overrun with apparel moguls? how is that overrun with apple corruption?

i do not doubt conditions are bad in china-- already stated that, but what i dont believe is that apple rules over the fla which u still havent legitimized…

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:21

53. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Apple is a paid, donating member to the FLA. Again, the FLA's job is to "improve working conditions". Do YOU really think that the FLA is actually going to improve the conditions of its donor members?

And BTW, the FLA seems to ONLY inspect its donor members. It does not random inspect other companies. If you noticed, the FLA never had a single interest in inspecting Apple, until Apple started paying FLA dues.

Do you really not find that fishy at all? Does that sound like an up and up company that is really fighting the good fight to improve workers conditions. Or does it sound more like a shell company designed to improve public relations for companies with bad worker's rights issues? Considering the list of "donors", I'd bet a paycheck its the later, not the former.
Just honestly think about that for a second.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:22

54. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i see your time away didnt make you any brighter, taco. U still have zero idea about anything you are talking about.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:38 2

56. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


okay, so if it was a completely corrupt system, how has it managed to survive for 13 years?

again i dont think working conditions are great… but i dont think they are worse than anywhere else in china-- most likely even better

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 08:49

58. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


can you tell me of all the corrupt entities that have been weeded out in the last 13 years? How many politicians have gone down in flames for corruption? How many businesses? Extremely few. In the real world, the bad guys win more often than losing.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 09:35

60. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


ever heard of bernie madoff?

i guess i really can't argue against such a negative outlook…

oh and read the article about apple letting other organizations look at their factories… u might like that one ;)

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 09:50

61. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


read it. its only 2 of the factories of apples choosing. I'd be impressed if it was 2 of the factories of the inspection companies choosing. I havent looked up the company yet to see if its another corperate shell.

Bernie Madoff was 1 guy out of thousands of people robbing the system. And he had to have a crazy mega ponzi scheme running for years before he got caught. The ratio of "do bad things and get caught" is pretty darn low over all.

Its not negative so much as it is realistic. The system is set up that way on purpose.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 07:21 2

3. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Minimum wage is lower in China to begin with... But I totally don't believe what they show on the camera. Come on! Who can't put on their "best behavior" while on camera. Apple takes their consumers' money and doesn't give it back in any form. Having billions of dollars in the bank and not invest for anything?? No wonder people are getting poorer in the U.S.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 07:45 1

4. thnkthru3 (Posts: 73; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)


Apples fox con...

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 08:09

6. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


badly?

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 08:34 4

7. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


These are the workers who were persuaded not to commit suicide and instead were forced into doing a video for apple

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 09:33

11. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)


They should open also other facilities in China to see how everybody else is doing, just for curiosity.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 10:35

14. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


And why would Apple fans boycott FoxConn? When their are the ones buying Apple products produce by FoxConn.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 10:51 4

17. dreammixer (banned) (Posts: 81; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


This is good for Foxconn workers. Poor working conditions overseas ate nothing new. From shoes, shirts to electronics. Apple's popularity is bringing attention to Foxconn and the end result will be improved working conditions.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 11:03 3

18. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


at least they are getting some attention and some changes will happen . of course the hater will hate so for those people nothing will satisfied them, I applauded Apple for at least taking an initiative... on this

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 11:39 1

20. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


for those that just whine to whine.. you know who you are.. The republic of China is amongst the lowest when it comes to pay,,, Apple has nothing to do with that...

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/china-minimum-wage-30453.html

so please stop these nonsense.. I feel for the people in China.. have lots of respect for them, as what they do.. half of us will never do it... but it is what it is..

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 14:03

34. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


chicken head,
what you and Your other blind supporters don't seem to get is that it's not just the payscale.. which is horrid, it's the over all treatment of the workers that pisses everyone off. the payscale is not enough to even be considered middle class by Chinese standards. that's the least horrible part of the equasion when compared to the mandatory 24+ HR work shifts, and multiple other abuses comitted by apple foxconn

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 14:41 2

37. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


look don't come with your sad story.. ok.. that happens in lots of 3rd world countries.. ok . nothing new.. dude so calm down and your problem is with Foxconn not Apple. here is their information .. is time you really do something...
Foxconn Corporation
8801 Fallbrook Drive
Houston TX, 77064

Foxconn
458 E. Lambert Road
Fullerton CA, 91709

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 15:08

38. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no my problem is with the apathy and blind defence of apple no matter what atrocities they commit, that all you crazed iNuts seem to collectively have.

if it was Samsung in report after report instead of apple you would be calling for heads to roll.. and I still would be making the same arguments.
but since it's apple u can't see past your stupidly blind alegance to an extraordinarily greedy, pompus, and anti human rights company.

nothing will ever change unless u look past your own beak and take even a minor stand for someone else.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 16:33 1

41. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


first of all calm down.. nobody supports slavery around here.. ok get that straight... I just don't see why we have to blame Apple for everything... those workers are not under Apple payroll they are a 3rd party suppliers... the working conditions in China are devastating... but is China fault.. not Apple... when I lived in Mexico 15 years ago.. there was a Bose plant.. that paid around 25.00 a week to their hard workers.. they cheated us of overtime and we could barely sustain ourselves but never blamed Bose.. ever.. I blamed my government for allowing this... so unless you have lived it... what you think makes no difference not to me or those overworked and underpaid workers.. good that you at least took a stand.. but since you keep repeating yourself like you want an award... is doing the opposite...

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 16:37 1

44. dreammixer (banned) (Posts: 81; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


ha ha remix made to look the buffoon he is.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 18:42

47. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you go after the head of the snake and the rest will fall in line. the biggest company on that list is apple. the company with all the suicides is apple. the company with the exploding factories under it's belt is apple. only an idiot would ask why apple over the other companies that foxconn works for.

when foxconn says that each factory's conditions and pay scale are set by the client, I'd believe them for at least that much as its been proven over and over.

ahhh look taco and gallito back together again. I can see the conversations going back down a few notches again.. where's miz and Gemini to round out the iStupidity.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 19:28 1

49. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


the head of the snake is Foxconn itself.. so the people that commit suicide because the wife/husband left them.. we should blame the wife/husband?. hmm nop. I believe that we are responsible for our actions...I highly doubt that they commited suicide because of Apple and unless we know all the details which I know you dont.. you cant point the finger at Apple.. go after the head snake Foxconn , they called their employess animasl.. not Apple.. ok.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:25

55. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


The head of the Snake is Apple. Foxconn is merely the skeleton that connects the different pieces. Apple is bigger than pretty much all the other companies that foxconn supplies combined.

If apple truly demanded changes, then foxcon would jump and do as Apple demanded. Apple themselves said in an article barely a week ago, that they prefer Chinese companies because if they want to change things on a dime, foxconn will change on a dime.

Foxconn bows to Apple, not the other way around.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 21:39 1

57. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


They bow to money... and if Apple has so much power.. isnt this a start... maybe this is the start of better things for those workers... I understand that you are upset.. but all this attention may lead to something positive...

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 08:51

59. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


if it wasnt by a company that apple is actually paying to do "independant" reports, I'd take it more seriously. The FLA's track record is pretty small compared to the paychecks from the companies it works for, like Nike, who is a king among slave traders.

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 11:56 2

22. xiobnb (Posts: 74; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


oh sure.. just take a camera into there and the workers will tell them the bads things about their boss when their bosses are standing next to the camera... what a f**king bs..

posted on 20 Feb 2012, 19:19

48. RazaAsad (Posts: 100; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


FLA is corrupt and Apple is its corporate donor.

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