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RIM's new phones selling well, says analyst, its upcoming QNX handsets said to run Android apps

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RIM's new phones selling well, says analyst, its upcoming QNX handsets said to run Android apps
Mike Abramsky of RBC Capital Research has polled 40 stores to find out about the fate of RIM's newly-launched phones with the BlackBerry 7 OS, and found some positive results. The analyst believes that the good sell-through rates are induced by current BlackBerry owners looking to upgrade.

On the one hand, sell through of the Torch 2 at AT&T appears light, with no sell-outs (similarity with the existing Torch could explain why). On the other hand, sell through of the Bold 9930 and full touchscreen Torch 9850 at Sprint appears healthy, with 20% of stores sold out of the Bold 9930, reflecting its novelty/popularity”, he said yesterday.

With 67 million-strong subscriber base, RIM has carved a pretty decent niche for itself, despite the whirlwind of disruption Apple brought on since 2007. The proof is in the pudding, though, so we'll wait for RIM's quarterly results to check the revenue numbers.

RIM's upcoming QNX-powered phones, however, are widely reported to have a killer feature, namely the ability to run Android apps as well, via the same Android player that is promised to appear on the BlackBerry PlayBook by the end of the year. RIM is allegedly already testing the player to fit the Android apps to the different screen sizes and resolutions of the new BlackBerry devices, but is declining any comments on the matter.

If the hundreds of thousands of Android apps grace RIM's new Blackberries in 2012, are you more likely to get one?

source: FinancialPost & Bloomberg

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posted on 25 Aug 2011, 06:06 1

1. PhoneLuver (Posts: 469; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


Why run Android apps on QNX? Why not just port BBM to run on Android and create a unique e-mail service?

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 06:51 1

3. remyrz (Posts: 190; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)


I agree with you... and I think that bbm is the only thing that have their customers attached to RIM... that's why maybe they don't throw it to other companies... in the other hand.. adding android apps will get the attention of a little bit of customers... here in my country the biggest market share is Black Berry.. the BIGGEST.. is like 90% of cellphones >.>.. i dont like those phones.. but with a feature like that.. I could think in that possibility to finally get the BB mania...

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 07:09 2

4. remixfa (Posts: 14079; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


BBM has become useless since rims decline. everyone has to have BBM for it to work. The last big draw is business and their high email/phone security features that noone else has.

For rim, its a great move and one that i have been cheerleading. The fastest way to bulk up your crappy app store is to use someone elses! :)

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 08:27

6. donpeppino9 (Posts: 67; Member since: 24 Jan 2010)


not completely true. yes there are people who stick with blackberry for BBM but to port BBM onto android would alienate the people who stick with blackberry for the other reasons, which is the form factor and user interface. The ability to navigate and use the phone with one hand. every single android that has been released with the blackberry form factor is, in my opinion, not good. They basically took a small touch screen and have a keyboard sticking out below. You still need two hands to use the phone as navigation is completely done with touch screen, no trackpad or d-pad.

With QNX, blackberry will have the newest OS on the market. They will no longer have the inheret OS problem of having RAM partitioned for app space. They will, like iOS and android, have the ability to save apps on a seperate ROM. At this point, the skies the limit, especially with android apps. For these reasons, im definitely looking at RIM as a BUY!

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 09:19 2

10. remixfa (Posts: 14079; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i hope QNX brings them back from the brink myself. the more competition, the better.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 08:29

7. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


great Point

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 06:28 3

2. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1052; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


If blackberry could run android apps the yes i would be "more" likely to get one but then I look at something like the Galaxy S II and how would i not just get that then? Blackberry is getting better but not there yet, not for me.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 08:04 1

5. remixfa (Posts: 14079; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i dont know that most people would run back to blackberry if it had apps.. i know a certain segment that would though. It will also keep their lock on business and professional people.
My biggest worry is compatability with blackberry resolutions and such. I bet we hear a lot about force closings and non working apps in the first year.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 08:40

8. snowgator (Posts: 3276; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


It seems ever since I started getting on tech sites to learn more about mobile, Blackberry is supposed to die off, get bought out, or just become a non-factor. The past 6 months I really thought RIM may have finally crossed the point of no return. But, I think the sales of these new OS7 devices coupled with next years QNX will keep RIM in business and a factor. I doubt they will ever be the giant they were, but 10 - 15% of the smartphone market with the vast business being from companies seems likely. Next two years will tell.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 09:16

9. Moo (unregistered)


I had a bb it was boring and returned it after 4 days. Now granted that was 4 years ago.
I am still not impressed with bb but at least they did do something right and get Qnx.

Lets see if they can stay afloat. However I think someone will scoop them up sooner or later.

Maybe Micro$oft or Google.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 12:06

11. Droid_X_Douq (unregistered)


Android hardware sucks, so this would be a key feature to have, BlackBerry makes GREAT hardware and Android Apps FTMFW! (for the motherf**king win) ;)

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 13:51

12. downphoenix (Posts: 2381; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


I would consider it as long as QNX is as excellent on a phone as it is on a tablet.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 13:52

13. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5922; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Sounds like someone who is a 'Berry fanboi is trying to spoof my identity. Notwithstanding your 'opinion', the reality is that 'Berries are yesterday's news. It has been not even a month since the latest crop of 'Berries was released, and already the price is being discounted. You don't discount when sales are strong.

I wonder how much market share RIM is going to lose when the quarterly results are released?

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 17:08

14. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


We have seen devices not selling because of the lack of apps- some Honeycomb tablets are examples. I am quite confident that there are people willing to buy the PlayBook when it starts running Android apps. QNX phones will also pull a certain former BB following who enjoyed the packages RIM offered them but hated some parts of the user experience and jurassic hardware.

I personally am looking forward to the QNX phones.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:52

16. biscutbob (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I would definetly get a playbook if it ran Android apps.

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 13:14

17. Franz (unregistered)


If RIM can pull of the andriod apps on a phone, and make usre they go through some testing so that the viruses that plague andriods aren't found on the BlackBerry then seriously what point would there be to get a droid?

I'm sure RIM will be sure to put a super battery in here s they can boast that advantage over andriod as well.

posted on 27 Aug 2011, 23:31

18. QNX-Rules (unregistered)


Of all the mobile OS, I really love the simplicity of QNX. I Can't wait to buy a QNX BB, if Rim can really port android apps into QNX.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:30

19. Droid_X_Douq (unregistered)


I dont know what I'm talking about, I'm pretty sure the best thing that could've happened to this world, would've been my mother keeping her legs shut.

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