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RIM, Windows Phone, Android take the back seat as iPhone surges to market glory

0. phoneArena 21 Feb 2012, 09:02 posted on

Statistics are a tricky business as it’s always hard to be perfectly accurate measuring mobile platforms’ market shares, but latest data from Kantar Worldpanel confirm…

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posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:47 5

30. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Yeah I was kind of going to hint at the same thing. Apple currently sells the 3GS 4 and 4S so it isn't exactly one device. Unless you count the fact that Apple has kind of sold the same exact device since 2007 and just changed the way it looks a little bit.

On a serious note though i can tell you that from working in a retail location... The 4 is outselling the 4S by a huge margin. More people are interested in the price then anything else.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 12:46

36. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


true but the majority of sales comes from the 4S or the 4... that is not the point... the point is that Samsung has so many variants of the SGSII to be beaten like that.... from a phone that has not changed since 2007.. how embarrassing.. I should say for the so called phone of the year...

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 12:57 4

40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes, but even your 4 and 4s are broken down into different models on different carriers. can you get a CDMA 3gs? nope.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 14:42 3

52. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


"from a phone that has not changed since 2007"

and this is a good thing? I fail to see how having a linear OS that has little to no features (including widgets) is a 'good' thing. Apple executives that are caught buying the Nexus on release and articles (on executives) that point to Android having "better voice services than Siri." Being innovative is what makes a phone great.

I had an apple 3g (jailbroke used on tmobile even ATT) and it actually was a quality build even tho i'm not an apple fan. That is to say however that their phone HAS changed. The 4s and the 4 are pieces of junk (i do a ton of manufacturer warranties weekly), just like Samsung phones (rarely do i find a Samsung phone that holds a high standard to quality in reception, build, and data; menu customization is all that Samsungs have imo). You again cling to your apple religion by dissing on a phone company that makes crappy phones to being with. This is not a strong argument...

The Iphone 4s has almost identical specs to the Droid X2 with verizon which was released in May of 2011. The 4s was released in October of 2011 and only has a better screen (slightly). So if you wanna talk about embarrassing, I would consider releasing a phone that's already "outdated" by its release date is down right embarrassing. Americans should be embarrassed imo; the rest of the world is laughing at us by clinging to such a crappy product.

the first rule of statistics is how the information is interpreted....

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 13:05 4

43. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Technically it's more than 3, as they count each capacity variant as a separate model, so technically there's the 8GB 3GS, 8GB 4, 16GB 4, 32GB 4, 16GB 4S, 32GB 4S, and 64GB 4S, plus the color variations, black & white. Personally I think that the locked variants should be counted separately as well, AT&T GSM locked, Sprint CDMA locked, Verizon CDMA locked, and C-Spire CDMA locked, and the apple-only unlocked 4 and 4S variants. C-Spire and Sprint only have the 8GB 4, and each of the 4S. So I count that to be.... 13 for AT&T, 12 for Verizon, 8 for Sprint, and 8 for C-Spire, and 10 for Apple... so that's... 43 variants in the U.S. alone! I think that's more variants than the entire carrier-subsidized or sold phone lineup from any other manufacturer selling in the U.S.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 13:21 2

46. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i want to disagree with the over breaking down of each line by carrier, but since thats the way all those sales charts do it for android phones that are sold across multiple carriers, i cant take too much issue with it.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 13:31 4

47. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Per Samsung's U.S. site (http://www.samsung.com/us/topic/our-galaxy-smartp​​hones) there are 19 Galaxy series (ALL Galaxys, not just the Galaxy S2 line) phones for sale in the U.S. accounting for all colors and all carriers (they only list one Galaxy Nexus on their site even though we know there's the Verizon CDMA version and the unlocked GSM one). In fairness, let's count their total lineup at 21 to account for the Skyrocket HD and international versions of the GS2, even though they're not available from Samsung U.S.. Bear in mind that the original Galaxy S series made the iphone4 look like a chump, giving up only pixel density and the front-facing camera statistic wise.
Now, in reference to my prior post, there are 43 versions of the iPhone in the U.S. That's still more than DOUBLE the number of Galaxy series available. I believe you'd have to combine all the available Android models from Samsung, Motorola, and HTC to reach the same number of models apple makes of its iphone series. Furthermore, those same models are countlessly customizeable, with expandable storage, OS mods, and also the ability to unlock them by entering the unlock code. No need to download Cydia or redsn0w or ultrasn0w to unlock the device, and no need to buy the full-priced never-locked model from the OEM.
iphones are status symbols for the consumerist-driven buyers that helped get this country into the financial posistion its in, who go with what they are told to buy, not bothering to do the research and see what else is out there, or see what might better match their lifestyles and preferences. They are the most expensive U.S carrier-subsidized phones to own and maintain because you need apps to make them do anything, their insurance and replacement costs are the highest, and they also have the longest contract tenure before they are "upgrade eligible", being typically 20 months compared to non-iphone 12-18, depending on carrier. Furthermore, they also have the human cost as well, given the conditions the phones are made in. Granted, other phone manufacturers are guilty of the same thing, but none have the insane profit margins and controlability apple does to insist upon and implement changes to resolve such issues as swiftly and effectively as possible.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 18:48

78. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


Wow are you really using the argument that there's more iPhones than android phones. You should get a job for Fox news. An amazing twist of facts here disproportionate to reality.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 21:15 3

86. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


first sign of a lost arguement, blame fox news. lol.

did you know that Media Matters, the socialist George Sorros front group, was braging not 2 weeks ago that nearly all but Fox News (and a few minor publications) get their "news" from talking points through Media Matters.

"“We were pretty much writing their prime time,” a former Media Matters employee said of the cable channel MSNBC. “But then virtually all the mainstream media was using our stuff.”

Read more:http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/12/inside-media-matters-sources-memos-reveal-erratic-behavior-close-coordination-with-white-house-and-news-organizations/#ixzz1n4pQ5fsc

"media matters is an Obama administration front that strategizes with the White House on a weekly basis on how to influence and direct the media"

http://www.infowars.com/investigation-media-matters-conspires-with-white-house-to-influence-news/

http://townhall.com/video/media-matters-plans-to-take-down-fox

posted on 22 Feb 2012, 10:08

93. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


It is a fact. If you notice the specs of many other android phones, sometimes, the differences are only in the storage size and sometimes, the manufacturer is different. Most everything else about many of those phones are identical. So, are you really using the argument that the iphone is just one phone in an article that is about OSs?

posted on 22 Feb 2012, 10:01

92. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


so? aren't we talking about OSs here and not phones?

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 17:25

75. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


The new iPhone launched in October also idiot

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 10:38 1

18. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


i swear one stat says android is top,another says ios is on top...whats the truth...also i think this stat is for the last quater which ios saw a boom in market share which is logical but am sure that in 2011 overall android still has more market share.ios always has a huge surge in the quater that a new iphone is released and starts to level out for the rest of quater...nothing really new here but none the less impressive growth by the iphone.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 10:57 2

21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you have to pay attention. each stat focuses on a different category. this is just US statistics. The last one was world wide that showed android with double the share. there is also an asia graph and a europe graph.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 10:51 1

19. DechyX (Posts: 132; Member since: 16 May 2011)


I'm tired of looking at statistics...

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 10:59 3

22. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


It's about time Nokia hit the U.S with their Lumias

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:11 4

24. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


right? I love my Android, but i'm really excited to see if VZW will finally come together with Nokia to offer me a nice winphone!

heres to hoping....

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:00 4

23. tobin_o (Posts: 6; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


I did find this story to be newsworthy in terms of US market share, but also seemingly biased in that it blatantly ignored the main focus of the source article... in which the full set of data show Android, not iOS, surging to "market glory" pretty much everywhere else in the world that was surveyed, compared to *relatively* pedestrian growth for iOS in those other markets.

The US is a pretty big market, but there is a bigger world outside of it, and it certainly looks like Android is the platform doing the surging in the grand scheme of things...

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:14 4

25. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


The Apple Iphone is nothing more than the fleecing of Americans...

If Android came out with an operating system called AOS that looked identical and ran smoother, people would still flock to the stupid iphone. Thats not to mention Apple would sue them over something ;)

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 17:04

72. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


Umm android basically did make a copycat OS. That's the funny thing about the Apple haters.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 19:36 3

79. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


then we all technically are copy cats of Blackberry then....

thats the funny thing about apple lovers, they lack things called logic and facts :)

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 19:55

82. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


Umm Apple totally redefined the user interface of a smartphone. You're being blinded by irrational hatred for Apple.

posted on 24 Feb 2012, 11:01

98. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


you're blinded by your infatuation with apple

i've owned every operating sytem and have been in the phone game for a long time....each one is different.

Apple is finally getting some pressure from some of their 'smarter' users wanting things like widgets...

who's going to be the copycat now? come on man...it's computers they all steal ideas from each other (Doctor Dos comes to mind)

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:31 4

27. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


First: even the source does not clarify whether this is overall installed base or sales in the quarter.

Second: these numbers fly in the face of every single other survey which shows that Android still has a slight lead in sales for the quarter and a commanding lead in installed base.

Third: the original article is about how ANDROID IS KICKING THE IPHONE'S ASS IN ENGLAND, and yet that doesn't even get a single f**king mention here?!

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 11:41 4

29. isheeparena (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


wellcome to iphonearena.com where all the information in the web were twisted to make Apple iphone looks great, thus increasing the sale of iphone.

I wonder how much AAPL share does iphonearena.com own. I think they really need to declare this.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 12:40

33. bucky (Posts: 2698; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


you're right...every single website out there are on apple's payroll. stop hatin. Dont forget, this website gave the galaxy nexus a 9.....

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 16:23

61. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


im not sure thats the case but nonetheless more than one source would be able to verify the information better. Though it is expected that close to launches by the iphone, market share numbers in the US would go back and forth naturally.

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 12:52 2

38. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I believe it was mentioned that it's sales for Januaray 2012 vs January 2011, and only for the U.S. The iphone is selling better than it did last year because the only iphone in the US then was the 7-month old 4 and the 2-year-old 3GS on AT&T

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 17:05

73. iBeliever (banned) (Posts: 33; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


First you discredit the survey for the US where android is getting its ass handed by a single phone and then you use the same survey to now say its credible for England. Oh the irony lol

posted on 21 Feb 2012, 17:18 3

74. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Android is getting its ass handed to it? You exaggerate. Also, the numbers could be off for England too, but my issue is that the global part of the article isn't even mentioned. It's shoddy reporting, no matter what side of the issue you're on.

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