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RIM CEO Heins responds to NY Times article about ashamed BlackBerry users

0. phoneArena 17 Oct 2012, 19:07 posted on

After a article in Tuesday's New York Times characterized BlackBerry users as being too ashamed to be seen in public with their phones, RIM CEO Thorsten Heins responded by penning a response defending his company's products...

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posted on 01 Nov 2012, 05:21

94. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


Only a very small percent of the population of the South had the means own slaves. The huge majority of brave, young Confederate soldiers who fought against the damn yankees did not own slaves. FACT CHECKED. Here is another fact, a study conducted in 2010 showed that cities in the north are much more likely to have a higher level of segregation than cities in the South. I do not like the idea of slavery. As stated in previous posts, slavery was not the biggest issue in the before and during the War of northern Aggression. lincoln made it an issue to inspire the troops after the bloodshed at Gettysburg. You are a stupid yankee aren't you.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:37 2

21. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Bb will never rise again, they're already died in grave with pikapowerize

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:41 2

37. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


don't you know that they already rest in motion?

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:54

42. Mittal (Posts: 434; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


With the enterprise (their bread n butter) business slipping, and going into the competitor's kitty, it will become extremely hard for BB to make any worthwhile comeback
Hoping for the best

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:14 1

14. Paximos (Posts: 76; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


Articles like NY times do not bother good humans, because there are tons of s**tty humans that write such articles.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:30 2

16. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


This.......is so true
Screw you rim...shame on you

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:35 2

18. wendygarett (unregistered)


There you are, so tell me, what's the disadvantages of having RIM? :)

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 23:00 2

54. novasians (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 May 2012)


My Bold 9930 turns me into a very productive person because I can get things done quicker. I know, it's such a real disadvantage. I'll wait for the iPhone 9, or whenever Apple feels like stretching that iPhone a few more inches vertically. Maybe by then, iOS will have a real file system and doesn't require iTunes to transfer files to/from your pc.

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 01:13

65. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


BlackBerry make things done!

and i think even the "iPhone 9" wont have real file system!!! Apple revolves around their own world!

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:37 5

20. downphoenix (Posts: 2375; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Its a matter of fact that people dont have brains of their own and get caught up on trends. Blackberry was the hot phone 4 years ago, when mobile email was all the rave and people didnt care about apps. Now that apps are all the rave, people blast Blackberry, when its a fact that many people aren't aware that Blackberry phones version 5 and above have access to Blackberry App World to download lots of apps to their phone.

Its just a matter of people not having braincells inside their actual brain, and their brain just being an empty goo that doesn't get any actual use. And really, who would be embarrased about their cellphone and yet can afford an ipad? Priorities not straight much? If you didnt like your phone, you should have paid for a PHONE instead of an Ipad that your stupid brain didnt need and still doesnt.

Blackberry phones are just fine, they are functional and have a good form factor and are pretty easy to use. There is nothing wrong with them. They aren't as exciting as Android or Iphone granted, since the specs tend to be lower and not as good a variety in apps, but its certainly nothing to be embarassed about. Its worlds better than having a feature phone or a home phone, so its not worth complaining about if you have one and dont like it. And if it was between having to choose a low end android vs a BB7 curve or something, I would go the curve, because it would be a lot more reliable than the low end android would be. Fo

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 20:38 1

22. xtremesv (Posts: 238; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


The "India and Africa" line seemed a little contemptuous. BB is still strong in Latin America as well. Maybe we are weak markets now but eventually...

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:13 2

26. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Blackberry 10 devices will bring a whole new meaning to the BlackBerry name. Phones will nice hardware to run the very same games and apps as on both IOS and Android. With a fresh new look and interface, it will be a major upgrade for Rim. I don't see why so many Rim haters in this article, if you don't like Rim and Blackberry, then that's fine. But lets not forget how Blackberry phones have helped push Apple and Google to make the iPhone and android devices we have today. Once Rim releases BB10, it will break down the phone catagory. Apple for the teens, Android for users who want choice, and blackberry for business and organized people. That's my take on it.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:15 2

27. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


But ashamed of/for what? I feel proud when i carry my Nokia communicator on some odd days (yes it still works) ... antiques have more value than over hyped crap many a times :)

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:43

38. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


well, if you work as a plumber, you definitely don't have any reason to be ashamed... but if you work with big clients and big bucks daily, thats another level of story...

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:58 1

43. Mittal (Posts: 434; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


well that will be rather presumptious of the client, if it matters to him

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 22:06 1

45. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


well, you can call it presumptious or shallow or anything else... but it's the hard facts that happen in business community... imagine if client want to make vid conf, and you only have your phones ready, and you have to say, umm, sorry, but i use a blackberry with qwerty keyboard....

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 15:36

83. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


No i am not a plumber for sure ... and sure we don't deal with clients who have buying/business decisions made on basis of what phone models i carry. They can kiss my butt and yes i have the guts to say that to such jerks who carry that disdainful attitude even if that means saying it to you also :)

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:21 1

28. Naitto (Posts: 50; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)


It's too late for blackbarry their done and WP8 is going to take their market share watch and see.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 22:47 1

49. novasians (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 May 2012)


The only way this will happen is if they can produce a WP8 phone that has a better PHYSICAL keyboard than the current Bold line.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:23 1

30. deuel_18 (Posts: 54; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


they need renovation on their strategy with ever changing swing of market on phones and tablets...

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 23:04 2

55. novasians (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 May 2012)


They just need a better marketing department. Bold can do things where iPhone and all touchscreen Android devices cannot. They need to stress those with their advertising campaigns.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 21:53 2

41. pookiewood (Posts: 623; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


WOW I can make a blanket statement too. The NYT has crappy people working there. On the real where i work I see a few Black Berry devices still in use. One of my project leads swears by his Black Berry. He is interested in Windows Phone but he's not ashamed of his current device. Why should anyone be? It's not the N-Gage! ;)

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 22:01 1

44. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think its easy for people to kick someone when they are down or not as "hyped" about as others. But I think it is much more difficult to recognize something special and give that special attention. The Blackberry platform is a great platform that has been plauged by poor management and poor choices. The new guy seems like he understands what the future is and in the meantime has to take a serious amount of flack and bad press as CEO. It takes someone who really believes in something to stick around when it seems like everything is going down. It is also very easy for someone else to criticize without going through it themselves.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 22:13 2

46. ibap (Posts: 706; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


I've never been a 'Berry user though I prefer physical keyboards (I started with Treos, and currently have 2 slider keyboard phones), but I've known heavy texters who think they're great for their personal use. I find it amusing that you can usually spot the posts from those typing on glass - no caps, no punctuation, and frequently full of typos and poor spelling.

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 22:42 1

47. novasians (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 May 2012)


Yes, I have used Android, iOS, WP and Bb devices. To say Bb is antiquated and "behind the curve" is just arrogant. I have a Bold 9930 and have thought hard about switching to the "latest and greatest" iPhone 5 or SG3. Well, those latest and greatest devices are horrible for MY needs.

My phone came to my rescue when I needed to work with my real estate agent and bank on a home purchase. I can't access my personal email account at work, so my phone was the only solution. I spent most of the day on the phone, cranking out long emails, text messages, saving files so I can print it from my work computer (thank goodness for the file system), forwarding PDF files to various people, etc.

There were numerous times where I needed to swap out the battery with my spare because I was on the road and didn't have access to a charging outlet. Yes, I have a car charger. But using the hotspot service and sending tons of texts/emails would drain any battery quickly.

Bb's keyboard and file system keeps me productive. Because I can DO lots of stuff with it. I'm near the point where I can type without having to look at the keyboard.

Try typing a message on your all touchscreen phone without looking up and down at the virtual keyboard? lol

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 23:08

56. JunkCreek (Posts: 406; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


and torch even made of plastic too and the price tag somehow was UNBELIEVABLE unbalanced. we got more for only IDR 6.000.000 than to PAID FOR IDR 5.000.000. The DIFFERENCE of price tag JUST IDR 1.000.000 but THE DIFFERENCE OF THE SPECS AND FUN(C)TIONALITY WAS JUST LIKE HEAVEN AND EARTH!!!

You know which is heaven and which one is down to earth.

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 07:54

78. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


lol...made by plastic but still look elite and elegant!!!

all phones are made of plastic!! but s3 just looks very plastic unlike BB or any other smartphone!!!

nokia 701 looks more elite--which is a mid range--- than s3!

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 23:45 1

58. JunkCreek (Posts: 406; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


I think all the smartphone manufacture SHOULD begin to add physical keyboard, so we can do texting, editing (with d-pad is alot of easier than thumbs/fingering between words/letters) and even gaming. I notice, touch controlled game are less fun (and even get frustating) than having physical d-pad and buttons.

but when we talk about BlackBerry, yes, it is main purpose when compared to the competitors old days, is their e-mail and messenger services with cheaper datas payment. but, now, as all the provider had their own unlimited/limited data service, BB has loose for its cheaper data payment. For IDR 50K, i can only get RIM BIS for browse, downloading email and social, to download movie, mp3s and streaming for flv movie, i MUST pay more for activate the service. but wit android/java phones/symbian phones/iOS for IDR 50K i can have unlimited (fair usage) data plan 500MB-2GB to use up to to the internet things.

i'm not shame to show up my BlackBerry if i had one, but SURELY, i'm won't using it as my primary activity for internet, but just for it's BBM

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 23:51 2

59. pliskin1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


I hope the best for RIM and their Blackberry brand. They used to be such a strong company, but now their struggling it seems. What I think they need is a highend device, touchscreen with their BB qwerty (maybe a vertical slider?) and a huge battery. I think it could even benefit with a stylus like the Galaxy Note. Then market the device showing it's strengths, let people know your still here and your still awesome.

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 02:50 2

69. webOSlove (unregistered)


Why be ashamed of BlackBerry? im not ashamed of carrying around my webOS phones and theyre not even made anymore!

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 06:57 1

76. Xperia_23 (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


Blackberry is good but not better than iOS or android right now...but rim is improving unlike the iOS wich is really the same for the past few years..here in my country BB phone is expensive... and android phone users is really huge..most of their phone are now samsung replacing their nokia phones.. and BTW i am am android fan and a xperia user

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 07:41

77. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


honestly... i dont find anything to be ashamed of any phone!!!

atleast you use a BlackBerry coz you see it UNIQUE now! only few (but in my country...a LOT) use them...

unlike samsung or android... very common.. you look like a set of dolls! no uniqueness!

posted on 18 Oct 2012, 10:56

80. vqc61 (Posts: 15; Member since: 16 May 2012)


This is just another example of irresponsible, ignorant and pathetic journalism. It is dismay to see that this trend is continuing to grow, but it's shocking to see it from a reputable media conglomerate like NY Times. I guess even NY Times can't escape this trend.

posted on 19 Oct 2012, 04:20

87. kindlefireowner (Posts: 426; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


I don't feel sorry for RIM. Forget BB10. They made no attempt to improve the hardware on there phones. You mean they could no have put a bigger screen, better browser, better processor on there BB7 phones. They thought people would be happy with there BBM and email security and would not want better hardware on there phones. Wrong.

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