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Quality test analysis shows Apple iPhone 5 display beating out the Samsung Galaxy S III

0. phoneArena 24 Sep 2012, 13:44 posted on

An analysis of the displays on the Apple iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S III by DisplayMate gives the edge to the recently released 4 inch screen on the iPhone; the company says that Samsung's OLED technology has yet to be refined to the same degree as LCD screens have...

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posted on 24 Sep 2012, 19:34

72. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I've owned half a dozen AMOLED Samsung phones because everyone said they were the shiz. Then I started buying IPS LCD phonese and tablets. I'm not going back. Even PLS looks better.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:17 2

25. babyk (Posts: 221; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


no one is talking about the HOX Screen that beats them both

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:21

29. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5465; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


And I believe that LG Optimus G display or maybe even LG's NOVA display beats them all. ;)

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:35

32. darkskoliro (Posts: 953; Member since: 07 May 2012)


do you have a link to the review of the onex's screen?

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 15:42

45. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


You really have to see it in person. Put it side by side with any phone in the store and I guarantee that the One X will be the most eye catching display among them.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 19:36

73. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I owned a One X. The screen is not as magical as people claim it is. The contrast isn't that high and the overly warm yellow skew makes it a sleepy display.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 23:45

96. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I owned a Evo 4g LTE and I do not see a warm yellow skew in it. The cool contrast is very high compare to other LCD.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 12:14

114. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Yeah I'm not sure what you're talking about with the yellow tint. My One X has brilliant true whites with good contrast.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 16:20

115. darkskoliro (Posts: 953; Member since: 07 May 2012)


I have seen the one x in person :)) Its brilliant.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:37 3

33. maherk (Posts: 798; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


1st of all its an LG screen. And how dare you compare the SIII's screen to the iPhone 5's flickering, unresponsive, and yellowish screen. All you have to do is go on utube and search for iphone 5 problem, and hundreds of unsatisfied owners you ll find. There is one video where the screen is so responsive to the point that you dont need to get close to the phone, and another where floating your finger near the screen will dothe job. iPhonearena should stop trolling

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:46

36. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5465; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"All you have to do is go on utube and search for iphone 5 problem, and hundreds of unsatisfied owners you ll find."

Agree! And such situation is after such short time after release, then what will happen for example after month or few...

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 19:45

74. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Wow you just ignored a scientific article by a display calibration professional for hearsay on the interwebs? Even more sad that you are deliberately trying to find only defective iPhone screens to make comparison with. The article states how close to sRGB the iPhone 5 is and how skewed and tinted the S III panel is. Neither are defective units. Samsung's AMOLED displays have an even higher inconsistency rate, since it is still a new technology and Samsung is the only one producing them. A "normal" AMOLED panel has a high chance of having a strong tint, splotches and lines, black clipping, and guaranteed to be very color inaccurate. These are for ALL displays, not just the defective one. I've owned half a dozen AMOLED phones from Samsung and every owner experiences these issues, whether it bothers them or not. They are "features" of AMOLED panels.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:40 1

34. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)


Sorry if this is a dumb question, but when resolutions and screen technology get to a certain level can you actually tell any difference with the human eye? These were lab tests, are there noticeable differences in the real world?

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 14:44 1

35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5465; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


In some cases yes and in some cases no, because talking about displays there is a lot parameters which can be compared.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 19:52

75. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Yes there are. The lab tests are just used to prove concretely the improvements as opposed to just "eyeing" it, which can be subjective and inconsistent. The brightness difference will make a huge impact outdoors, or blind you indoors if you turn it up. Either way, you will see the difference. The color difference is noticeable to, especially against something as gaudy and overesaturated as AMOLED. The lower reflection is also very noticeable, maybe hardber between iPhone iterations, but very noticeable against a cheaper or lesser phone. Just holding a phone up against a light and watching the glare shimmer along it. The better display will have a duller glare that can be seen through. The more reflective display will have a brighter, more opaque glare that covers up the screen.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 15:21 1

41. Shino (Posts: 182; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


Well, good morning America! But of course it is better. Since iPhone 4 there is no phone with a better display. Did you expect that iPhone 5 would be any different?! Jesus...

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 15:31 1

43. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


The Galaxy S3 has the worst display of the high end android offerings. Its a convenient comparison for the the IPhone. Would be a different story against One X and other non Pentile 720 p displays out there.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:00 2

47. ap1989 (Posts: 144; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)


i sure the person who rated this is someone who waited in line to get the iphone 5

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 19:58

77. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Also a PhD in physics and computer science with his own display calibration company. Not your typical barista.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:14 2

49. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Of course it's a better quality display..no surprise there.
It's basically a HTC one type of screen with in cell on top.
BUT it also happens to be comparatively tiny, so the quality means jack to me.

Btw I'm fairly disappointed with the S3' display, compared it carefully with my old xperia arc side by side, and it had really inferior white reproduction and brightness.
Even turned out slightly less sharp compared to 854x480 screen of the Arc, to my great surprise.
Pen tile is clearly evident - I can see pixels easily.
That being said it's still a great screen overall- superior blacks, viewing angles and reflectivity.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:44 1

53. dmn666 (Posts: 194; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Pentile is clearly visible on 720p display - at least you were able to see it unlike our blind resident fanboys - Kudos to your eyes :P.

Btw, Arc really has an amazing display. Amoled white levels are horrible. You get true black but that's it. I'd take better LCD white as browser is my app. I put an HTC One X next to a GS3 with browsers open and I was disgusted by dim white levels of GS3 display. So I had to go with HOX. Xperia Ion also has very nice display but HOX has better viewing angles. Hopefully Sony will do something better with Xperia V.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 17:55

62. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Browser is my app too, and I compared the white performance the same way you did, but there's a catch - you can take the whites off the picture literary, by using night modes or inverted view on browsers such as maxthon and UC- I've actually discovered the night mode on maxthon to be really great visually, and more pleasant for use even during the day.
But that's not even the main point - the main point is that amoled screens should provide one heluva long browsing session that way, given their power efficiency with video reproduction.
If S3 can run video for 10 hours, the promise looks really great.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 18:03

63. dmn666 (Posts: 194; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Haha - that's one way to go. But inverted view is not my thing - good old black prints on white background pages - that's what I like.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:26

84. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Inverted browsing is awesome. I prefer it just because its a lot less eye strain. All my ebooks are inverted when possible for the same reason.
And yea, you can get massive battery improvements that way with Amoled. One of my tricks to get 2+ day battery life on my SGS1. :)

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:28

85. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so clearly visible that I dont remember a single phone review that said "wow look at that pentile".
In fact, i remember most of them saying "you cant tell the difference at all anymore for 99% of uses"

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:18

50. Iphone4 (unregistered)


iphone 5 is best phone ever but s3 come very close

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:20 5

51. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


excuse me how does the iphone have better contrast ratios when Amoled screens have INFINITE CONTRAST RATIOS since the pixel turns off completely instead of going to a dark grey like LCDs.
Cant take much seriously if they cant get the basics right.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:02 2

78. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


What are you reading? It has better contrast than the iPhone 4/4S, not the S III. Even the charts in the article say its infinite, if you bothered to read it. I'll take the world of a display calibration professional with a PhD over someone with a grudge against red colored fruits.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 23:52 1

97. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


It is not infinite because you can't make a ratio with zero as a value. You have to give black a value in order to have ratio. And if you know anything about LCD you would know that the pixel is turn off in an LCD too and is not dark grey. The reason why there is a grey color is that a LCD panel has a backlight in other to see the color. No one will take you seriously if you don't even know that.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 00:02 1

99. CamaroSS (Posts: 72; Member since: 24 Jul 2012)


Right on, mate. Infinite contrast is a gimmick. 1/0 and 10000/0 both will be rated infinite contrast by display makers because it hides white level. True metric would be separate white and black levels and amoleds have horrible white levels compared to LCDs.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 03:53

105. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 627; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


That's right.

This problem of dividing with zero was evetually solved in a community, because it doesn't make any sense. AMOLED displays still have the great contrast, but now LCD tech is pretty comparable. It also has to be taken in consideration absolute brightness, where AMOLEDs are usually inferior, they just have the mathematically larger contrast because of zero value blacks.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 17:04 1

55. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


I have Galaxy S3 is not bright display as iPhone 5 in direct sun but it is fine indoor. I hate rotten Apple CEO lawsuits to ban Galaxy S3 sale in America. Apple won lawsuits and ban sale of Samsung phones is very cruel and unfair trial in America.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 17:43

61. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Try Sony XPERIA P in Sunlight :)

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:03

79. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


You know Samsung is doing the same thing by suing Apple right?

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 17:34

59. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Read more about "Display Myths" before digesting that "Retina display" crap which was nothing but a well managed "intentional/wilfull" lie (one o0f many from SJ) for marketing only. Perhaps a good term just for patenting and nothing more ...

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/display_myths_shattered

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:07

80. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


It's such a lie that every other manufacturer is rushing to claim their new flagship phones as having over 300ppi. It's also such a lie that a PhD with his own display calibration company says its the best display on a smartphone to date. They must all be brainwashed and iSheep! Samsung included!

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 22:24

91. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Didn;t some consultant w/o a website got paid 70000 bucks juist for testimony on behalf of apple? Money taks and research data can be manipulated and skewed as always just like Ancel keys did decades ago :)

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 23:56

98. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Did he compare it to any other display in the market, I don't see it anywhere so how is it the best when it is only compare to 1 other phone. Retina is not a display tech. It is just high pixel density. The iPad 3 retina display is way less then 300 ppi

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 04:54

106. Hemlocke (unregistered)


It's also a 9.7" screen that you hold further from your face.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 18:05

64. BattleBrat (Posts: 1048; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Watch "Star Trek" (the new one) on a RAZR, you will not have ANY complaints about the color accuracy or the penta pixel display...

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:12 1

83. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Star Trek isn't very colorful. The 4.3" Razr display, which is penTile AMOLED, is also known as one of the worst AMOLED displays around, for color reproduction and quality in general. It's super gaudy and dim.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 18:09

65. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 690; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)


Really would love to see the GSIII, replaced by the Lumia 920... see how ip5 fares then.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:09 1

81. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


When that phone actually comes out, SURE. But then the iPhone 6 will be out with who knows what.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 20:10 1

82. CamaroSS (Posts: 72; Member since: 24 Jul 2012)


LOL - how's this a news? gs3 display doesn't even compare to HOX SLCD2 - horrible white, low brightness, exaggerated cartoonish colors, and pentile straight from the museum. It'd be more interesting to see a comparison between retina and slcd2/lumia display.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 22:09 1

88. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


the display technology of samsung is not better over than 2 years ago display technology hahahaha.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 10:03

112. sgogeta4 (Posts: 391; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


You're an idiot with no basis for your comment. While AMOLED is definitely not up to the level of IPS, IPS is definitely nearing the limits of technological advancements. I wonder what will happen with the iPhone in a few years when AMOLED exceeds IPS in the above categories...

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 22:19 1

89. Richie458 (Posts: 1; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


Really all this is nit picking for geeks. The top smartphones have more than adequate displays that'll keep 99% of the population happy. I'm perfectly happy with the display on my S3. I love the size of it too.

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 22:51

93. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


In the 1st sentence it says edge, kinda like how the iPhones edge shows light leaks
This is just LOLness right here, and a bit of insultment

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 00:39

100. predator93 (Posts: 121; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Even though iam an ips lcd user (optimus black), I wouldn't mind having deeper black levels. And many people I know prefer oled over other form of displays mainly due to the saturation of colours. If someone manages to fuse both technologies into one (deep black levels of oled, colours and viewing angles of ips lcd), i would be really happy.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 00:40 1

101. BomberXL (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)


"the Two hottest smartphones on earth" ... yeah, my friends iphone 5 gets pretty damn hot after a long while of use... doesnt seem safe. i mean is there any way they could fix that without sueing anyone?

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 02:15

102. nightmare (Posts: 28; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


Hold up! Are they trying to imply that the iphone 4 screen is better than the galaxy s3 screen!!!WTF

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 03:49

104. rizevnarastek (Posts: 328; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


The HTC One X beats them all hands down... but let 920 prove itself :D

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 05:02

107. jroshan5 (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


My Xperia s will do better than both of these,
Who cares about showing the phone to the a 3rd party person, I never tried to read anything on my iPhone 4S from a angle as long as I had it
Even it's brighter than the iPhone or galaxy s3 in direct sunlight .........

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 06:14

110. jbjr43 (Posts: 48; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


Yep. Look to the left.

posted on 25 Sep 2012, 20:21

117. romeo1 (Posts: 195; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)


i can't understand how the iphone 5 could be better at showing pictures and videos with its resolution?
to me that is one of the biggest reason not to buy the phone as i watch allot of movies on mine

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