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Qualcomm's CEO says mobile processor core wars pointless already, disses Samsung's octo-core claims

0. phoneArena 17 Jan 2013, 03:15 posted on

Qualcomm's outspoken CEO Paul Jacobs was caught on tape at a Born Mobile presentation in China to say that Samsung's Exynos 5 Octa eight-core mobile chip that got announced at CES uses a meaningless number for a publicity stunt, and the more cores you add, the more challenging it becomes to manage them, from an energy and thermal standpoint...

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posted on 17 Jan 2013, 09:37

53. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Pretty conclusion this Mr.Jacobs it never pays to hate. Yes Qualcomm has been in the game for for ever and they are very very respectable. But Samsung they ARE NOT. The Exynos 5 Octa will be something industry leading. Qualcomm should appreciate innovative solutions don't hate like this.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:24 3

2. wendygarett (unregistered)


Improve the lte, make it cool, increase developer support, and save more battery life.... Your dual core crapdragon s4 works perfectly fine on android device... And even buttery smooth on wp8... Improve the other than just the speed...

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:25 6

4. wendygarett (unregistered)


Typo again, is snapdragon >.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:25 1

3. wtghjjbbg (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


except that samsung will use last years GPU on their new phone... powervr sgx544

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:40 2

8. nerdyking (Posts: 7; Member since: 26 Dec 2012)


we can't know for sure at this moment, all are just rumors.. at least Mali T604 or Mali T658..

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 04:03 1

15. jove39 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Not rumours...it was revealed SGX544MP3 is indeed used in Exyno5 Octa. Hope...in production soc samsung will be able to deploy SGX554MP4 just like A6x :)

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:28 1

5. easymomo (Posts: 91; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Paul, it's big.LITTLE, you know, big.LITTLE....

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 09:01

52. easymomo (Posts: 91; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


If someone doesn't understand what I mean, the big.LITTLE is a kind of optimised quad core ==> Power saving up to 70% over previous generation.

I you understand how big.LITTLE works, you will understand it is the future of mobile devices cause you will always need less power for tasks like sending email or SMS

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:38 3

7. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


@Wendygarret hahaha, crapdragon.lmfao but seriously, people usually talk crap about the things they see the most threat in, that said-- the Exynos Octa 5 just might be the best processor of them all, but what really would matter most for us here in the states would have to be LTE connectivity which Samsung has yet to provide; only Qualcomm and oddly enough, Ericsson provide LTE enabled chips.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:43

10. wendygarett (unregistered)


The only thing I impressed on Qualcomm is that their chips is very cool and never overheat compare to others...

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:51 1

12. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


Yeah, that's the thing that Qualcomm has mailed down, the power consumption factor in cell phones. Because power is distributed so well, it keeps it from overheating. But Exynos and Intel processors are being used in PCs and tablets.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 07:16 1

45. mick25 (banned) (Posts: 110; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


"never overheat compare to others"

yeah, that's why the optimus g and nexus 4 which uses qualcomm doesn't overheat at all

not

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:45 5

11. christumaini (Posts: 27; Member since: 25 Oct 2012)


sometimes we should learn to appreciate ...big little technology is awesome keep it up Sammy thats what innovation is all about!!!

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 03:57 3

13. datsyuk (Posts: 179; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)


He MaD

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 04:07 1

16. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


I don't think of any reason why Qualcomm have said this, maybe envy? It's just pointless to me. They are not even a direct competitor of Samsung, infact they are partners for a long time..

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 04:14

18. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


@Mitchel obviously someone hasn't.heard about mature and weird competing relationship which is known as Apple vs Samsung.lol

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 04:22 2

19. rizaldiwn (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


agree with QUALCOMM, may be tomorrow QUALCOMM will create a powerful processor and gpu without needs a lot of cores

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 04:49

25. cameogt (Posts: 88; Member since: 18 Oct 2012)


and focus should be shifting to real advantages for the end user, like speedier downloads, smooth interface performance and precise positioning as things with more tangible added value. -- and that should how Samsung innovate.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 05:21

36. joey_sfb (Posts: 6015; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


The usual trash talking on competitors. The real world application will be revealed to us soon so no amount of marketing on Samsung or Qualcomm would matter than.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 05:47

39. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)


woah! some guy with a username hung2900 gives me a thumbs down for saying some facts with some evidence.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 06:04

41. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)


take that thumbs down for example.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 07:15

44. mick25 (banned) (Posts: 110; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


That's ironic, seeing as how Qualcomm's snapdragondildo can barely manage 4 cores without heating up like an oven.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 08:23

50. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think Samsung does have a winner on their hands and certainly helps make a stronger case for their phones in the future. I do agree a little that the processor war is not as important as how well it works with the software and allowing everything from small tasks to major tasks run just that more smoother and better.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 08:39

51. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Someone jealous

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 09:47

54. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


He's correct though. Intel can squeeze more power out of a quad core desktop processor than AMD get from an 8 core chip.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 10:32

56. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


Well, we all know that Samsung is not best know for its CPU's or its phones. It manufactures electric ovens, microwaves, TV sets, washing machines, hi-fi stereos, excavation machinery etc. So I think there is a lot of truth in these words. The proof? See the new iPhone 5 - it has dual-core 1GHz, but it is still faster than 977987-core SG3. Simple.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 11:44

57. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Sounds all well and good in theory, but Qualcomm still has the best SoC's out there, Samsung can stuff all the core they can into a chip, right now it's all theoretical as we have yet to see one single device in action producing said benefits. I'm still waiting on Qualcomm to show off it's revised LTE baseband chips that use 50% less power and that would bode well for VoLTE since that crap rips through batteries because of the massive power draw.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 18:51

58. cripton805 (Posts: 1456; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


I think they just don't want to spend money to make an octocore. Think about it. If they stopped this feud, they would stick to their current processors and make tons of money off of their cheaper older techonology for the next two or three years.

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 20:01 1

59. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


i also think samsung's exynos 5 octa is just a publicity stunt...

they want consumers to believe that their chips can do better than ultrabooks!

posted on 17 Jan 2013, 23:21

60. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


I agree with him. Who needs octo-cores in a laptop or a desktop? The filthy rich hardcore gamer maybe. Now who needs 8-cores in a phone or tablet? Samsung is merely trying to stay on top I guess.

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