Qualcomm says it won't be bringing a quad-core phone to MWC, but will be bringing something better
Before you start that temper tantrum that has been building up inside of you since you read the headline to this story, Qualcomm says it does have something even better than quad-core to present at the expo. We won't keep you in suspense any longer. Grab those smelling salts! At MWC, Qualcomm will be displaying an LTE phone that won't be a battery hog.
Qualcomm will introduce its 8960 chipset, a dual-core Snapdragon processor with an integrated LTE chipset that will be powering some of the smartphones on display at MWC. To save battery life, the integration allows the apps processor to share resources with the radio. And as Qualcomm's first 28 nanometer chip, Talluri calls it one of the most power-efficient processors around. "All of the LTE devices out there today use separate modems and use separate radios," the Qualcomm executive said. "With integrated LTE we’ll see significant improvements in power efficiency."
LTE's hunger for battery power comes from more than separate processors and radios, but this integration should make a nice difference in LTE battery life. Additionally, Qualcomm's quad-core processors run differently than the competition's products. With Qualcomm's design. each of the four cores does not have to power up at full speed when activated, saving on power usage.
The Qualcomm executive did say that the company might decide to bring a concept model to MWC with a quad-core 8064 Snapdragon processor under the hood. While this model won't be shipping until the fall, some of Qualcomm's customers might come to MWC with quad-core prototypes of their own.
1. Rayzin (Posts: 83; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
I'd have to see some numbers before getting excited about this. More battery life is greatly needed but if it's only 10% or so then it doesn't seem as big an announcement. I'm glad we're moving in the right direction of getting more battery life though.
18. Retro-touch (Posts: 260; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
23. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Anything helps but I expect more then 10 percent.
2. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
Maybe they've travelled to the future and found a way to engineer 10nm dual core chips :P
3. torr310 (Posts: 377; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
The batterey hog may not be the processor but the 4G technology or chip.
4. manuell3g (Posts: 66; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Battery life n processing power which would u go for??!
5. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
power, seeing that i magenta will not be on LTE for a long time.
6. solidsnakeduds013 (Posts: 215; Member since: 20 Oct 2010)
Quad core or more battery life? I want a quad core phone. Plus anything running android is a battery hog
7. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Yes yes yes yes yes. They get it. Its about the experience and battery life is an integral part of that. People really won't notice a small amount of lag but the fact your phone only lasts 4 hours is annoying(this was my experience with the tb i realize its better now but still not good.) i would like moto to build a phone with the maxx battery and this proccesor. An lte phone with 2 days worth of battery would be great to see.
8. pongkie (Posts: 502; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
battery is more important to me... i usually prefer low end phone with long battery than high end phone with short battery.
I say that because why would you want to use those fancy features of a high end phone if you always worry about having a dead brick in the middle of the day. I don't like carrying extra batteries and chargers wherever i go either.
11. knights4life03 (Posts: 126; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
exactly bro cuz u cant work the phone if its dead. but as far as the high end? motorola takes the crown of with the droid razr maxx becuz the theoretical specs of how the battery performs is true but u also have galaxy note on at&t which has a 2500 mah battery but also being used up by the huge display, lte, and other software or personal purposes and is still can hold on to life but i got wat u guys are saying becuz not all phones have good battery life and have to carry around a charger or a spare battery.... we need more life in our everday phones
16. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I wish this was emphazied more. I love the maxx best phone avaliable right now in my opinion.
17. remixfa (Posts: 13913; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The maxx is pretty nice, no doubt.
between the 2, id take power and an extended battery. :) I can skip LTE, thanks.
20. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
There is something about having a huge bulge in my phone over two years that bugs me.
I also love LTE. What I like about it is when 1 bar it seems to preform better then other 4g networks. Plus its fast outright. Great for video streaming.
21. remixfa (Posts: 13913; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I still average 4-5mbps on my Tmobile 3g. HSPA+ 21mb/s is more than fast enough. I'll take an exynos over 42mb/s or LTE any day of the week. Maybe If i didnt have access to a fast 3G backhaul like I do on Tmobile (like VZW and Sprints pokey 1.5mb/s "3G") I'd probably care more.
Heck, I've chosen my 3G SGS1 over every other phone I have access too.. which is .. well.. just about all of them. It just has sooooo much development i never get bored with the thing. lol
22. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I go to areas where my backup 3g is even spotty and when lte preforms well with 1 bar was nice when I had my thunderbolt. Its was nice when I have 1 bar of 3g and 1 bar of 4g i still could make calls and have fast internet. I very rarely go below 1 bar of 3g with verizon's big network albeit slow and with the added benefit of fast 4g with little network coverage the experience is better. Thats why I prefer Lte over HSPA+. I could care less about the processor because to be honest if you didn't tell me which was faster I couldn't tell the difference between the dual cores. I can barely tell the difference between single and dual core. The difference to me is that 4g sometimes gets spotty and you want it to preform well when this happens. The processor aren't affected by where you are and when they are both running at full potential they are both more then necessary.
9. Jphones (Posts: 234; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Yeah about time they focus on battery life. Let's stop worring about how many cores somethin has an worry about if it will last. Like muscle cars might be powerful but the gas mileage sucks. That's why they need to let battery technology catch up to processor tech.
13. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
so you would rather drive a prius than a 1970 dodge super bee pushing a 426 hemi? lol
lets all be glad that android provides near limitless processor and battery options (including aftermarket extended).
19. Jphones (Posts: 234; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Yes I would you Jack I'm saving money catch up. An your analogy is horrible you can't legally drive as fast as that car can go. An that car burns hella gas and cost of repairs and restoration is tremendous. Prius saves gas is reasonable on price and Toyota parts are cheap. All that after market crap you gotta buy for phones with most of it should be included. Why should I have to buy a battery extender when companies know dam well the battery life sucks? I'll tell you why to make more dam money.
10. Carlitos (Posts: 327; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Wait doesnt quad core use less power, or is that for Nvidia Tegra 3 only?
12. knights4life03 (Posts: 126; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
it could be nvidia with their tegra 3 becuz really no one has heard about any other quad core using less power. becuz the more cores it has, the more power it takes to use. so yea it might be nvidia's theoretical speaking
14. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
somebody didnt read the article...
"With Qualcomm's design. each of the four cores does not have to power up at full speed when activated, saving on power usage."
tegra 3 juices the battery by using a low-power companion core (little.BIG) instead of the other 4 high-power cores, when the system is idling or doing simple tasks.
im sure the exynos series found a way for their quad-core to sip the battery as well.
26. jabberwocky (Posts: 89; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
From what I understand, Tegra 3 defaults to the low power 500mhz 5th core for doing "background" type processing (probably stuff that runs without the screen on), then powers up the 4 fast cores 1 at a time as needed. When they turn on, they are always at their rated speed (usually 1.5ghz).
Qualcomm's design is very different. They can turn on their multi-cores one at a time, but also vary the power and clockspeeds as tasks demand more/less from them.
From what I understand, the Exynos 4 and 5 will be more like Qualcomm than Tegra. Exynos will have varied power profiles depending on demand that can use lower voltages and lower clockspeeds, what is not clear (to me) is if they are able to turn on their cores one at a time, or if they need to power on all of them at low speeds.
27. remixfa (Posts: 13913; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The cores are independent of each other. varying voltages and clocks are becoming more common though, which is going to increase power savings without hurting horsepower.
You will almost never have all 4 cores in use, except when playing an advanced game, loading a large app, or in the very begining stages of loading a heavy web page. other than that you will be riding a single or dual core for the bulk of tasks.
15. theBankRobber (Posts: 647; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
This could push big numbers for batteries and LTE, its been a while but was 3g a battery hog when it 1st came out? I wasn't that big into phones back then with high end features. Hell I got a Treo 650 in 2006, and thought how high advance it was not knowing it was already 2 years old. But nothing really compared to palm treos back then because iPhone and android wasn't around. ( again I wasn't tech savy in early 2006 so don't beat on me for knowing anything other then Palm )
24. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Well done Qualcomm, that's some nice improvement. No rushing, more optimization, better battery life with good performance.
25. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
well, even the current LTE phones can have the best battery life out of any smartphone ;-)
so this chip should require only about 2500mah to match the Maxx.
in other words, battery life and LTE will soon go along just nicely