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Qualcomm demonstrates quad-core Krait processor and Adreno 320 in APQ8064 chip

0. phoneArena 17 Jul 2012, 03:34 posted on

Qualcomm is definitely making waves in the United States where its dual-core Krait processor on the MSM8960 chip is basically the technology of choice…

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posted on 17 Jul 2012, 03:40 5

1. darkskoliro (Posts: 932; Member since: 07 May 2012)


you forgot to mention its also available on htc evo and one x

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:48 8

8. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


eh? you lost? Adreno 320? 4 krait cores?

Evo and one x have dual krait cores and adreno 225.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 09:52 4

23. Commentator (Posts: 2290; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


He's referring to the final paragraph of the article which states:

"Right now, Qualcomm’s earlier S4 chip the dual-core MSM8960 powers the US Samsung Galaxy S III and is the silicon of choice for the upcoming Windows Phone 8 devices."

I have no idea why people had such a negative reaction to his post. Maybe they just skipped down to the comments before reading the article, and assumed he was talking about the quad-core Krait, since that was what was in the title.

posted on 18 Jul 2012, 00:04

26. darkskoliro (Posts: 932; Member since: 07 May 2012)


8 people downvoted me and 8 people upvoted the neutralguy. I really hope this isnt the level of stupidity of phonearena comments. I didnt need to elaborate if people read the damn article.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 03:41 4

2. aayupanday (Posts: 446; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Great !
I want this in the HTC One XXL.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 03:50

3. kamil (Posts: 115; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


exynos 4412 vs quad core krait

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:03

4. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Also, add to that TI OMAP's new chipsets even though they're also not yet ready.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:43 1

7. TylerGrunter (Posts: 859; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I bet on the quad core krait over the 4412 any day: around 30% more CPU and GPU power.

But the fight is going to be a little bit different>
Quad Core Krait S4 with Adreno 320
TI OMAP5432 with PowerVR SGX 544MP2 (dual core A15)
Exynos Exynos 5 Dual with Mali T-604MP4 (Exynos 5250, A15)
Atom Z2580 (Clover Trail) with PowerVR SGX 544MP2 (Intel dual core)

Of those I bet on the Krait for CPU power (only quad core), on the quad core Mali T-604 for GPU. And I'm undecided on between them both in the power consumption. Your bets?

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 05:57 1

12. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I'll bet on Atom for CPU power, Kraits for energy efficiency, and Exynos for GPU performance.

Overall winner will still be exynos, 2nd place TI OMAP, 3rd - 5th can be anybody

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:12 13

5. Birds (Posts: 956; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Not going to lie, I wouldn't mind a dual core krait with 320 GPU.... I still don't really see a need for all those CPU cores and the S3 in my Xperia S runs perfectly smooth...

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:18 5

6. 9_HeLLs_oF_DrOid (Posts: 120; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


I'm with you on that.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 04:51 3

9. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Amen.. Only GPU maters. If they only use this 2-core processors efficiently, those devices will run buttery smooth.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 06:29 1

14. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


especially now with Jelly Bean. My sister's dual core Galaxy Nexus feels Quad Core after the update. I guess the only advantage these new technologies present is graphics which I appreciate in the Tegra Zone.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 12:02

25. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


haha, yeah, i ran the pre-alpha version (very unstable) of CM10 (4.1.1) on my Desire S, and that already feels so buttery smooth, in fact, it feels like as if it's running on dual core..

I agree, I rather have better GPU than CPU..

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 05:15 3

11. FoneAddict (Posts: 188; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


Agreed, dual CPU cores are more than enough (for now), emphasis should be placed on improved graphics performance.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 06:10

13. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


I only need dual core for my future Windows Phone 8

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 07:33

20. BabyWade (Posts: 42; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


The MSM8960 Pro is exactly what you are looking for then, 1.5 - 1.7 Dual-core krait with Adreno 320. Until Quad-core cpu's completely destroy dual-core cpu's in every category possible they are just over-hyped IMO

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 09:28 3

22. TylerGrunter (Posts: 859; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I think you are right if you think of NOW, but if you want to have your phone for 2 years or more it's different.
Now there aren't may applications tailored for quad-cores, but it two years time all the CPU intensive applications will be.
So you'll really see the benefits of a quad core in one year time or so, not now.
The benefits of the quad cores may not be visible today, but you know that what you buy is future proof.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 05:14 1

10. adi4u4882 (Posts: 135; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)


Hoping Galaxy S4 will use these.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 06:40 2

15. Brewski (Posts: 119; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)


Jeez, you're worse than the Apple guys! The SIII just got here. Enjoy it for six-nine months before talking about the next one...

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 06:52

16. adi4u4882 (Posts: 135; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)


You think Samsung will be waiting for 9 months to prepare S4?
They probably would have started the designing and planning the usage of chipsets.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 07:05 1

17. TylerGrunter (Posts: 859; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


They won't, Samsung uses their own Exynos for their flagship phones.
But don't worry, the S4 probably will be an Exynos 5450, with cotex-A15 quad-core CPU and Mali T-604MP4 (also with 4 cores) for GPU. And that will be even more powerful than the current S4 krait quad-core.
It will have to be if they want to go against the Tegra Wayne (Quad ARM Cortex-A15) with 24 GPU kepler cores!

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 07:24

18. APPLE_R0YALLY (banned) (Posts: 73; Member since: 08 May 2012)


Nothing matches the raw power of

EXYNOS....!

We like praise need want it for the next ip5....

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 07:29

19. BabyWade (Posts: 42; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


This chip is only for tablets right now since it has no modem.

http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 08:07 1

21. speckledapple (Posts: 877; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think I like the idea of four cores especially with 28nm chip process for better overall performance and ability but not too thrilled with the GPU. I think they could have pushed the envelope a little with that. Overall though, a very substantial piece of hardware for the high end phones.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 11:24

24. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


The PlayStation Vita has a quad core CPU and GPU, I don't think they are Qualcomm but so far they can make great looking games. Only uncharted was made so far with really nice graphics. Just making the point that quad core processors, when optimized and programed for properly, can make a huge impact on games.

posted on 18 Jul 2012, 01:05

27. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)


Obviously applications have reached some, or are close to reaching some sort of a plateau in regards to computing and sophistication. I mean most of what we can do on a computer is now achievable on a phone or tablet, with the exception of a tasks like graphically advanced games, but the capabilities are there.

From now, the only true improvements we will see in phones with advanced components i.e Quad-Core, will pertain to 3D rendering and battery life, partly due to the fact that there are simply few other areas of computational improvement that can be seen from Quad-Cores, though they yield much more power, but also because phones nowadays basically mirror the performance of a desktop and laptop computers in nearly every point of comparison, and outmatch them in a few. So this push for Quad-Core, will most likely not mean much to the everyday customer looking for a speedy-reliable device, because, well you don't need to look further than a GS3..

Obviously we will see big improvements in GPU power and battery life, that is the main focus of most of these Quad-Core processor but now, the main focus must shift to software.

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