Qualcomm demonstrates its future display: 5.1-inch Mirasol 577ppi screen
0. phoneArena 22 May 2013, 02:56 posted on
The time of super high-resolution displays has already come with pixel density of over 440ppi on most high-end smartphones today…
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12. Kurai (unregistered)
ithink 720p is enough . . . i'm not going to stick my eye near the display anyway
56. akki20892 (Posts: 3749; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
i need 1000ppi because my eyes work like microscope......bring it on....LOL
60. phil2n (Posts: 483; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
who raises these retard haters?.. every comment has a thumbs down. It must be rooming around here
13. atsamman (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
2560 x 1440!!!!!
Now really what is the point of that
We've already said the human eye cant detect more than 300 ppi
26. bachir8k (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
I had the S3 with 308ppi and now i have the S4 with 441ppi, and i can notice the difference easily with a naked eye, but i am not sure if i will be able to do that between 441 and 577.
But anyway, i guess it will be ridiculous to push pixels density more, a 16x16 icon on a 5" 320x240 screen, will be large enough to be easily clickable, but on a 1920x1080, you need to scale that same icon six times in order to keep it clickable, same for text size.
33. jroc74 (Posts: 5258; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Since the GS3 and 4 uses different Pentile setups.....are you sure what you notice isnt that?
Cuz looking at my Droid X1 and Rezound....I couldnt tell the difference all that much. At normal viewing distances......maybe 1-2 inches from my face I could.....but thats not normal use for me.
55. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Mainly that's due to the subpixel count. The techology that Samsung used on there S3 had a lower subpixel (the little light switches that make up a pixel) count than that of competitors; hence some people saw edges of icons.
32. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I think that you should watch this video:
"Japan Display develops world's heighest resolution LCD panel - 651ppi in a 3.2" display"
53. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Looks like 8 people don't like this? They live in the past, with last years or 2 years old Tech!
54. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 343; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
Regarding the new display technology - impressive. I'd like to see more.
Regarding the "pat ourselves on the back video" that gives a handful of execs their 15 minutes of fame - 2:26 of my time wasted.
61. shayan (Posts: 158; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I actually like mirasol displays I think they are the next big leap in screens.
but 577ppi?!? really?! thats waaay too much. I have very sharp eyes and I actuly can see pixels of HTC One. but I think even 320 ppi of iphone is enough! hech, I think my galaxy note ( original) is okay I guess.
this high ppi can do no good, it actuly lay a hell of a procces on gpu to calculate. wich leads to battery drain.
its only a marketing move...
2. taikucing (unregistered)
R.I.P amoled & retina display
7. red_fox (unregistered)
You mean R.I.P battery?
21. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1273; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Power comsumption is precisely one of the good points for Mirasol
"It is also nearly 6 times more power efficient."
Please read before commenting.
57. 8logic (Posts: 132; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
Because it works on reflection of outside light source, it'll never replace oled or lcd........
59. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Don't be so sure, what if that will be improved!?
3. darkskoliro (Posts: 1041; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Hahaha, guys you can keep talking about innovation between OEMs all you want, but this is real innovation that makes an impact.
20. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
They can argue about ppi all they want. PPI's could go high as they want. The real deal here is the display tech. With device screens getting bigger, LCD and OLED efficiency may not get any better. This could be the answer to that. Also, the answer to Samsung's monopoly on AMOLED.
41. sniper1087 (Posts: 432; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
Also consider color saturation, ppi is ok for resolution but having the right color temperature is important, consider the Xperia z while good res colors dont look right, as well as no viewing angles.
48. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Software can change color warmth...
I use an application on my work computer to adjust color temperature based on light levels and the degree of my hangover.
51. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I agree, you can use software for calibration and so on, but for example talking about OLED, if diode is physically unable to reproduce certain color temperature then you can use any software you want it won't help.
4. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 413; Member since: 04 May 2012)
It's awesome but too much overkill. We still need more power from the mobile GPUs.
Even full-fledged discrete graphics cards on PCs struggle on that resolution.
9. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
E-ink!!! Hahaha enjoy your future kindle!
8. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
That's amazing but really if the naked eye can't see the difference between 400ppi and 450ppi say, then how will this help except add extra cost...? Correct me if I'm wrong....
14. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Who the hell feels the need to thumb down every comment on this post i mean look....
10. eisenbricher (Posts: 972; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
This will prove a good display in book readers. Not in media devices though.
11. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Now there you have a point! In book readers you actually need the extra ppi
15. Retro-touch (Posts: 268; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
what kind of books are you reading that you need 577 ppi, 441 is already more than you can discern????
22. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1273; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
In ebook readers you have from 150 to 200 ppi at most... Nowhere near 441.
30. eisenbricher (Posts: 972; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
My whole point was about low energy consumption and lower color reproduction ability. I was not at all referring to ppi. Still my fault for not mentioning it I guess ~
42. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1273; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I know, I was answering Retro-touch, who seems to think that screens an ebook reader has 441 ppi, when they are not very sharp actually.
So for ebook readers you still have room for improvement there.
16. Credo (Posts: 702; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
768 is enough, but this is really amazing, impresses me!
17. anGel_pLayer (Posts: 52; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
Well, if companies would develop 5000mah batteries at the same physical size as of today batteries, that would be great... But hey, improving a display is good but the battery department is getting left behind...
18. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
An example of overkill at its best
23. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I can already hear how those weepy boys&girls born in 90's starting to cry over 720 and 1080p screens that they are already not enough.
More ppi=more battery nedeed unless it's a really something new&grondbreaking.
Why manufacturers don't focus on batteries which have become crucial given stronger cpus and bigger screens resolutions?
27. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Amazing but no thank you, my eyes will be burning like hell if I use it the whole day!
720p is already enough.
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"720p is already enough."
So you think that view 8 or 12 MP pictures or watching 1080p videos on 720p resolution screen is more proper way than to do that on 1080p screen?
36. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Dude, what I mean is that 720p is already enough for our eyes (1080p is okay), and my eyes will be burning like hell if I use this 577ppi screen phone for the whole day.
I didn't say 1080p is unacceptable, I love 1080p!
40. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...and my eyes will be burning like hell if I use this 577ppi screen phone for the whole day."
From where did you get such nonsense? :D
44. McLTE (Posts: 741; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Exactly.. how is a higher resolution display going to make your eyes burn?
If anything, higher res displays are easier on your eyes as things look more natural and smooth. Should be less strain on your eyes, not more.
47. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
"From where did you get such nonsense? :D"
The higher ppi, the more sharper and brighter screen right?
But don't you think that 577ppi is just too much? I know this is INNOVATION but this is just too much! If you know what I mean.
49. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Not necessarily brighter.
Also watch this video:
50. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
651ppi?! Bravo Japan Display!
43. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Whatahell ppi is related to your burning eyes???
52. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Well what's wrong having ultimate screen on a phone? Stop complaining everyone! Games, photos, pictures, text, will be looking razor sharp! Every detail will be life like!
So enjoy tech.
29. darkskoliro (Posts: 1041; Member since: 07 May 2012)
seems to be a recent trend on phonearena
31. spiderpig2894 (Posts: 461; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)
Yup. What happened to people nowadays? And BTW, this is INNOVATION! Except for the high pixel count. The true innovation is where the display uses natural light to light up the display making it power efficient but the next thing for them to work on is when using it at dark place.
35. ajac09 (Posts: 1408; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
who cares .. why? because if I cant buy it then it dont matter!! Come on qualcom sell it to htc samsung and others !
37. skyguy7567 (Posts: 148; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)
I can't even see the slightest bit of a square in my XZ's screen. What's the point of making a 500+ ppi screen? To drain more battery? Then is this called HHHHHD?
38. Yodaa (Posts: 21; Member since: 22 May 2013)
Save the universe, I must. Defeat the dark side we must
39. medicci37 (Posts: 887; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
Colors don't look so good. I'm more interested in the igzo displays right now
45. McLTE (Posts: 741; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I think I'd pass on this screen, for a phone anyway.
The lack of blacks will cause HUGE problems when trying to use it for movies/games.
46. tokuzumi (Posts: 489; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
The pixel density wars are almost ridiculous. You aren't going to read zoomed out text on a 5" screen. You are going to zoom in. I guess it's cool to brag about your screen resolution, but in real world applications, it doesn't have a lot of use. My 47" 1080P screen looks just fine, thank you very much.