Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 going into mass production in late May
0. phoneArena 26 Apr 2013, 02:47 posted on
Qualcomm’s new high-end chip, the Snapdragon 800, expected to land in tablets and smartphones, will enter mass production in May...
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1. FlushGordon (unregistered)
SAMSUNG should seriously consider this chip in their upcoming Note 3
9. Neurone (Posts: 54; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
I guess they do, for us/uk version note3 sammy might add snap800....
48. serporys (Posts: 16; Member since: 20 Apr 2013)
They will not. Exynos 5 Octa is getting LTE this year, and they'll be ready with a higher clocked Exynos 5 Octa (than the one in S4) for Note 3.
10. Note2waitingonNote3 (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
The Exynos 5 Octa processor clocked at 2.4ghz will be even better in my mind. The Galaxy Note 3 must arrive with Samsung's own processor but I wouldn't object to the Snapdragon 800 if I can see performance proof.
18. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Hey, the Octa trumps Krait 300 even with 300mhz lower clock speed.
So if Note 3 ups that clock to 2Ghz, it could be on par even with 2.3Ghz Krait 400.
And we're yet to see about snapdragon 800' power consumption.
I'm also holding back for the Note 3, but not for the snapdragon 800.
Octa at 2Ghz is just fine
49. serporys (Posts: 16; Member since: 20 Apr 2013)
I think Tegra 4 beats it even at 1.9 Ghz (1.8 for the other cores)...so yeah.
22. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I don't understand why they're hating on you, Rich. I completely agree. Since the Exynos 5 clocked at 1.6Ghz performs better than the 600 at 1.9Ghz, I have to imagine that the 800 would not be able to outperform a higher clocked version. Considering that, I would also prefer the Exynos, although I wouldn't mind the 800 either. They'll both be able to handle anything thrown at them for years to come.
23. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
It could potentially, but let's not forget that the Exynos Octa at 1.6 Ghz isn't scoring THAT much more in benchmarks than the S600 at 1.9. I'm assuming the Krait 400 is gonna be significantly better than the Krait 300 in the S600, and also clocked at 2.3 Ghz. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the S800. We don't know how the new Krait cores perform yet.
29. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3722; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I didn't dismiss anything. I said I think the Exynos will outperform the 800. I don't think it will be by much. In any event, you can't go wrong with either. There will be no discernable difference in real world usage.
27. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4813; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Hell yeah, that's EXACTLY what I am thinking. A Note III with the BEAST Snapdragon 800 with the Adreno 330 would be just EPIC!
35. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)
The next coming phone that support 4K HD video capture and playback at 30fps will be mine. So I am still wishing that the note 3 will support this 4k feature or I will be moving forward to the one that do.
please do so samy in the note 3.
2. FlushGordon (unregistered)
And NviDieA's Tegra 4 is nowhere to be found
3. marklugtu1302 (Posts: 14; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
Expect this on the Motorola X Phone!! In 2 weeks, Google will introduce that to us
4. linas_ltu (Posts: 32; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
it's just amazing. 600 version seems snappiest ever, but 800 blows it away.
30. torr310 (Posts: 791; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
The performance is surely enough for most people... how about the energy efficiency? How much % gain?
5. vampyren (Posts: 15; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)
It's crazy I haven't got my s4 and I start feeling its old :) I don't think I ever will even max the s3 but all these sweet news make want the next best thing. Crazy but that's how it goes when you are a gadget freak :)
6. KParks23 (Posts: 585; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
They should add it also has the upgraded quick charge feature!
7. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Supports up to 55MP. Sounds like something designed for a Lumia EOS. More like, i think Nokia is the only one who will make good use of this support. But i expect to see this Snapdragon 800 in the Note 3 as well.
26. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
who know eos will come up with this 800.....
11. Note2waitingonNote3 (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
This is exactly why I am more than happy with my Galaxy Note 2 today. Buying a device towards the end of the year will be far better than anything that comes out January thru June.
19. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
As a Note 2 owner I agree as well. Samsung will have plenty of time to include Key Lime Pie and this beast of a processor. Plus I don't have an upgrade till late August so I'm forced to wait/watch anyway. If the S4 does not do better than HTC or even the S3 I expect Samsung will make up for it in the Note 3.
24. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
And then after the begining of the year every brand introduces new models, its like a vicious cycle, but still the Note 2 is an excellent smartphone! Enjoy it mate! :)
34. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 438; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Agreed! I have no intent on upgrading from the Note II until the Note IV if not Note V comes out. The reason behind me waiting is because the Note II is plenty fast with virtually no hiccups for everyday use. Nowadays, high end phones are so impressive that benchmarks are no longer important for those concerned with everyday usage performance. I'm so impressed with the Note II that I'm not even looking at the Note III because the improvements are going to be trivial at best over the Note II.
12. mydi.maus (unregistered)
i bet this chip gonna be on GOOGLE X or nexus 5 beating exynos octa
50. serporys (Posts: 16; Member since: 20 Apr 2013)
Yes, it probably will be in the next nexus or moto X.
13. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Nokia this is the chip you should use in the Lumia EOS!!!!!!...Can you imagine a 41 mpx sensor with 4K video recording!!!! sweet.
14. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
Hope this chip is available on HTC One+
15. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Better sell these out before intel gets a high end phone out and makes snapdragon look low end.
17. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Intel better put a ultra low power haswell together, if it wants to compete.
Atom is simply no match for this
32. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
What are you talking about? Atom is already more powerful then this with its old architecture, and the'yre updating it to a completely new one this year. Bay trail will blow this out of the water.
You won't be seeing core series processors in phones for years, still to power hungry.
33. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
I agree that Intel Processors destroy ARM competitors in everything except power-consumption, which is why mobile smartphones and smaller tablets keep using ARM cpu's
36. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Quad core baytrail will be the end of arm in flagship phones, they can't compete with intel, intel only accepts being the best.
Also haswell did fix the battery life a lot, for example in idle a haswell tablet/laptop will get about 20x better battery life.
45. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
If you compare core by core, Atom might have an edge over krait 300, in pure processing power per single core(due to hyperthreading and better memory bandwidth)
But such comparison is pointless, dumb and ignorant.
Here's the deal - 4 krait 300 cores perform as good as 2 Atom cores, AND they don't draw more power.
While less potent, one Krait 300 core is also much smaller and energy efficient piece of silicon than Atom core.
You must compare entire SoC as a whole, not just cores!
Intel will be able to make their next atom architecture quad core only because of the further miniaturization of the process..a 22nm vs 28nm in Snapdragon 800.
But guess what?
It wont battle the Snapdragon 800, when it comes out.
By that time, the next 22nm Snapdragon at up to 3Ghz will be in the mix.
In short, ARM and Qualcomm will blow Intel out of their way.
You wanna bet on that?
54. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
You clearly don't know what you're talking about....
Anandtech already did an in depth look at intels current offerings and the current offerings by ARM processors and found that atom was as power efficient and more powerful as it stands now..http://www.anandtech.com/show/
Remember that current atom processor is built using the 32nm process and architecture from 2008. From 2008 and it still can match up in power consumption and be more powerful. The new bay trail chips are designed with a new architecture that uses out-of-order execution like Intel's "core" processors and will be built using 22nm process. AND they'll be using far more powerful gpu solutions based off of intel's own design from their "core" series.
So yes, I'll take the bet. Intel will take over the high-end market for smartphones and tablets in the next few years, starting when the new haswell and bay trail chips ship this year. And they will drive ARM processors into the low-end segment.
25. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
As much as i love Intel and all my computers have had Intel processors they are late on the phone/tablet market, when they match ARM, ARM manages to create another gap in performance
37. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The Lenovo K900 using a low end dual core intel chip, can be found for around $450 and its as good as a quad core a15.
46. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You are clearly clueless.
Have you seen the scores of the Octa chip?
47. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
As for snapdragon 800, i can promise you it will absolutely crush the atom you talk about.
With GPU in snapdragon 600 already being far superior to the one in your beloved Intel chip (see the gsmarena article), just imagine what will adreno 330 do to it.
And Snapdragon 800 CPU will have DOUBLE the power of the standard 1.5Ghz Krait.
It should score over 35000 in antutu and 4000 in Geekbench.
Translated, you dont have an idea on what you talk about
51. serporys (Posts: 16; Member since: 20 Apr 2013)
Intel still has no real answer in the mobile market. Haswell is too high end/inefficient and expensive. And Atom is no match for the new ARM chips in both CPU and especially GPU performance.
Intel needs 2 more years to catch up. But where will ARM chips be then?
16. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Can't wait to see th Geekbench score, and peak power figure for this.
The snapdragon 900(?) done on 22nm should give Intel some spanking
44. yyuu1000 (Posts: 200; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
tegra 4 is no where to be found and google will use the 600 or 800
or maybe costom made
21. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
LG Optimus G2?
Sony Xperia A?
Samsung Galaxy Note 3?
Waiting! Waiting! Waiting! :D
39. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The Galaxy s4 already has a big.little chip...
42. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
And the big.little chip will continue with the Galaxy S5, I guess.......
28. Neurone (Posts: 54; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Awaiting for a tablet with snapdragon 800 in it, which can play 4k videos (atleast 2FHD Videos)
52. serporys (Posts: 16; Member since: 20 Apr 2013)
Don't expect the "first-gen" chips that support 4k to be very good at it. Always wait until at least second gen, before they actually do it right.
Sure both S800 and Tegra 4 will "support" 4k...but I bet it's the absolute maximum they can support, which means they'll either be inefficient at it, or lag when doing it.
41. adrianzka (Posts: 55; Member since: 25 Apr 2013)
If the galaxy note 3 use snapdragon 800, that phone will be a beast of the beast. If samsung manages to reintroduce exynos 5 octa with even more amazing graphic card and high maximum clock speed, that would certainly be awesome too.
43. JadeMoon (Posts: 80; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)
Snapdragon 600 compared to Snapdragon 800 is like comparing an i5 to an i7, pretty good but not the best.