Protesters gather at Apple HQ to demand "ethical iPhone"
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1. tward291 posted on 24 Feb 2012, 15:58 8 6
im not defending apple but they are not the only company that uses foxconn but i guess if your going to stop this you gotta start somewhere. I doubt apple will bring jobs back here to the states they could move production to india or philippines or some part of south america maybe even mexico.
40. Hunt3rj2 posted on 24 Feb 2012, 21:06 9 1
But Apple is the only company that I know of which pursues such massive margins on their phones while forcing Foxconn to cut their margins to the bone.
56. cellgeek82 posted on 25 Feb 2012, 11:51 2 3
Actually if I'm not mistaken, the Xbox 360 is made by Foxconn too. Let's go beat down Microsoft as well. J/K
I'm so tired of these hippies protesting. If they'd work we wouldn't have to outsource.
2. InJuxHurYlem posted on 24 Feb 2012, 15:58 6 0
--"Because, users may want an "ethical iPhone", but they still don't want to have to pay too much for it."
Ya, they have no problem with paying $300, in fact they'll line up and spend the night in a sleeping bag outside a store to do it...but they draw the line at $350.
3. Carlitos posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:00 1 0
I don't understand, why did apple go to Asia to manufacture. Obviously the higher demand is here in the North American and Europe. Why would they go to Asia where they would have to pay more money for shipping. Or are they there just to take advantage of does poor asian workers. Someone please explain?
4. atheisticemetic posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:04 2 0
that is correct Carl. The labor involved is much cheaper over there. So even tho the demand for the product is here, it's still cheaper to use that kind of labor and ship it to the States.
5. remixfa posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:06 12 2
because instead of paying american factory workers 10+ an hour, they can pay Chinese slave labor at about a buck an hour. they just got a raise to like 1.50 in shenzen, though the people that work at the ipad lab in inner china still make less than a buck an hour. Chinese slave labor also doesnt get much for employee benefits, and china has a much lower corporate tax rate. America has the highest to 2nd highest (depending on the year) tax rate in the world. Companies like Apple save billions a year in taxes and labor costs.. well more than what it costs to ship the products back.
Every time you vote for a new corporate tax, your not only voting to send more jobs over seas, you are also voting to raise YOUR taxes, as corporations do not actually pay taxes. they filter the taxes they owe into the cost of the product so that YOU actually pay the taxes for them. They just filter it from you to the government.
6. Mandroid (limited) 29 days ago posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:08 7 0
........are....are you f'ing serious? You do know pretty much every major american company outsources because it's phenomenally cheaper to produce overseas, right? It's a crappy practice, but they all do it.
9. jmoita2 posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:12 5 0
Then we should impose huge tariffs,therefore making it cost prohibitive to manufacture overseas then reimport such products to the US for sale. if you want to rip the benefits of selling it here at astronomical prices,the least we as a nation can ask you to do is to employ those same consumers as workers.
11. remixfa posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:21 5 5
yes, lets get even more punative!! its the high costs that drove them overseas.. so lets bring them back with... MORE HIGH COSTS.
yea, sorry that doesnt work. if you want to bring the business back, you have to entice them by LOWERING the cost of doing business in america, not raising it.
They left to get away from american taxes.. charging them more american taxes isnt going to solve the problem.
17. jmoita2 posted on 24 Feb 2012, 16:55 5 3
Oh,yeah,you are so right...not. So, the poor corporations are shipping all their manufacturing overseas because they pay too much taxes...Poor them. Turn off Fox News,while there is still hope.
19. atheisticemetic posted on 24 Feb 2012, 17:05 5 1
again with fox news....always a sure sign of a cop out.
just as long as you dont watch the daily show and call that news i wont make fun of you for copping out with the fox news comment jmoita
they need to bring business here regardless of how someone feels about the taxes. We need jobs in america plain and simple...i think we can agree on that?
21. remixfa posted on 24 Feb 2012, 17:29 9 1
sure sign of someone that has no idea about what they are talking about.. make a fox news crack.
here's some pot and a tyedye obama poster. go have a good time.
27. biophone posted on 24 Feb 2012, 17:51 3 1
Remixfa I couldn't agree more.
32. parkwaydr posted on 24 Feb 2012, 18:44 4 4
Remix, your dead wrong my friend.....corporations do not go over seas because of taxes, they go because then they do not have to follow Americas strict labor laws, I.e overtime pay working conditions ( osha) ect ect....they use taxes as a scapegoat. An example is the suicides at foxconn, had that been an American plant and American workers osha would have been up apples a** in a heartbeat, but hey since it was in China no one made a big deal about it......and by the way its a proven fact that people who watch fox news are the most unneducated when it comes to current world events.......but hey what can you say for a company who's only goal is to bash democrats
33. biophone posted on 24 Feb 2012, 18:53 3 3
Read all his posts before replying
34. remixfa posted on 24 Feb 2012, 19:03 8 2
its not even worth replying to that brainwashed nonsense. He didnt read anything I wrote and obviously hasnt done any actual research other than what happens on the Daily Show.
thanks for gettin my back though, bio. :)
38. parkwaydr posted on 24 Feb 2012, 19:56 1 0
What scared are you? By the way I'm a born and raised rebuplican who has never watched the daily show in his life.............I think your afriad of replying because your afraid your wrong, and if you dont believe me about the fox news thing heres a link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-less-informed-people-fairleigh-d**kinson_n_1106305.html
If you still dont believe me, there is more info on the study that was taken, just google it
by the way, I no longer respect your opinion on any topic seeing as you chose to insult me and hide from my comment
grow up
41. remixfa posted on 24 Feb 2012, 21:29 4 1
ok, just to stop you there...
you are using THE HUFFINGTON POST, one of the most notoriously open socialist slanted sites as proof of concept against fox news. lol
seriously?
Im not hiding from anything park, my views on these subjects have been well documented on these boards. I've entertained this conversation a dozen or so times, each with tons and tons and tons of info, statistics, and laws to back me up.
I'm not looking for your respect, but your obviously looking for mine. BTW, I also watch the Daily Show as well as fox... oh and msnbc, bbc, reuters, and all the rest.. on top of looking for actual statistics and laws on the matter. its called informed opinion. If you want to see my views on the subject, you can simply search the site. I've written pages and pages on it.
43. parkwaydr posted on 24 Feb 2012, 22:08 1 0
Your still avoiding the point Remix, I copied the first link that popped up on a Google search, like I said there are plenty of other sites........
And one other thing, if you do watch the daily show then why insult others for doing so? That is like gallito insulting someone for using an iphone. And as far as the respect issue, its common deciency, obviously bio has respect for you because he defended you, when I maid my post you chose to insult me when I did nothing of the sort to you








