Production of 6th generation Apple iPhone rumored to start with a change in back
0. phoneArena 14 Jul 2012, 22:28 posted on
A report based on Chinese sources says that production on the 6th generation Apple iPhone has started with a design change that added glass to the uni-body construction of the phone's back; Chginese manufacturers asre calling the device the Apple iPhone 5...
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1. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Really wanna see apple do good but with androids potential rising and rising its really hard for me to ever consider an apple product...
2. imkyle (Posts: 1051; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Agree. Jellybean is fantastic on a device that is over 6 months old. So fluid.
4. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 253; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
Very true, I put Jelly Bean on my GNex last night and was amazed
12. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
sorry dude, I know I'm about to upset 97.5% of the users on this site, but I really don't think JellyBean is as great of an update as people are making it out to be. iO6 is a 'meh' update. Jellybean is most definitely a better update, but I still feel its in that 'meh' category.
23. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
reasonable, but how so..elaborate more, what is it missing to make to keep it in the "meh" category?
30. MeoCao (unregistered)
Haha, there's revolutionary 'Don't disturb" mode and Siri's high tech "universal" answer: "I don't understand ..., shall I search the web (read: do Google search) for u".
56. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
If someone was to ask me if they should buy a phone without Ice Cream Sandwich on the device, I would say no don't do it. But if someone wanted to buy a phone without Jellybean, I'd say go right ahead.
Really the only improvement I would look forward to is the improved notification system, which I like a lot. Google Now I can't tell right now if its going to be a killer feature or one of those features that will die real soon. I think most of the excitement for this feature stems from the fact that most of you think its better than Siri. And I have mixed feelings about "project butter." I feel as if this was loooong overdue. Just like you Android folk don't think iPhone users should be happy about features/improvements that should have been incorporated long ago, I have to say the same for "project butter." Where the hell has Google been? They probably didn't update this sooner because every time an Android user buys a new Android device, they claim its the smoothest thing over w/ no lag at all. total bs
I don'tt think 4.1 is a bad update (any update at all is welcome), I just think its meh. Any more questions?
62. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
aaa did you see the fluidity that jellybean brings??? the speed increase is amazing man....Jellly bean is definitely worth upgrading too over ICS..
35. smartphonemad (Posts: 42; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)
It increases the framerate across the OS, adds google now and makes notifications handier.. they are only three improvements but they are great improvements not to be classified as "meh"
58. boovish (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Jul 2012)
Oh you mean the notifications that were stolen from webOS? Or the "revolutionary" project butter that Apple already had for years? Or the voice command system that is Siri with a different UI? Or the fact that android handsets are over hyped? Or that Phablets are stupid? Or that Samsung has horrible ideas? Answer that fanboy
59. sprockkets (Posts: 1581; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
"Oh you mean the notifications that were stolen from webOS?"
Android always had them. But you can't say they stole the specific web os style ones when the guy who made them for webOS works for google now.
" Or the "revolutionary" project butter that Apple already had for years?"
It's still a nice feature for Android.
"Or the voice command system that is Siri with a different UI?"
Neither of them invented it so another moot point.
"Or the fact that android handsets are over hyped?"
Sounds like a Daniel Dilger argument from 2010 when he said the android hype would die that year and iOS would take over. He's been wrong on so many fronts.
"Or that Phablets are stupid?"
Why? 6-9 Million sold isn't a failure whatsoever.
"Or that Samsung has horrible ideas?"
Balls in your court "fanboy"
78. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
have you considered that the iphone is even more overhyped?
have you realized that 3.5 inches is considered small?
or you mean the apple notifications that were stolen from android?
"horrible" and "stupid" are subjective. explain your faulty logic
siri is stupid. it has no practical functionality except for hiding bodies(trust me. my brother has one)
you realize that google had voice commands before siri
you realize that siri was bought by apple so it wasn't apple's idea?
answer that fanboy
64. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I have JB transitions, sounds, animation, font, Google Now, and the JB Google Music app on my Droid Razr .215....looks great.
71. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
How can people consider and overhaul in the maps application to bring turn by turn navigation, passbook feature that offers a lot of the same features as Google Now, improved Siri voice commands, and other features to be sooooo bad an then you get an improved notification system, google now, and less lag to be so amazing?
If iMaps is stupid not because it isn't a good feature but because Google had it long ago, then why aren't we saying the same for project butter and features like better autocorrect (which by the way sucked on the GSIII)? The truth is that both of these updates bring very similar features and also bring each OS up to speed with the other (quite literally w/ project butter).
So why does one suck and the other doesn't? I think fanboyism is the answer.
3. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 253; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
I think that if Apple allowed the customization, multitasking and widgets that Android offered, they'd have a better product. They already have a great ecosystem with iTunes.
But the problem is that they're stuck in their ways like RIM and Nokia. The only difference is that Apple really knows how to sell a product and make people want something just for it's name alone.
5. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
well regardless if apple isnt in the lead at the moment, it doesnt change the fact that there are millions of apple fans out there waiting for the release of this phone...Samsung knows all to well what is going to happen when this phone gets released thats why they are doing everything they can to maintain the lead now!!
7. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
millions of happy Apple fans if I may add....
8. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
hahahaha.... gotta respect there happiness too
14. MeoCao (unregistered)
Apple is doing great in customers' satisfaction, but I do hope they will not rely on the past too much. iOS6 is big disappointment and removing Google map is a step backward. Another bad thing is they impose restriction on Chrome and other apps they say "duplicate" iOS features. That stiffles the competition and less value to the users.
48. amish1512 (Posts: 28; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
removing Google map is not a step backward, if u know or not but google decided to upgrade their maps in android first and after a year upgrade in any other os so apple had to remove it cuz they cant wait that long
9. MeoCao (unregistered)
Apple's strategy is always save money on hardware so their OS must be light to allow fluidity. That's why iOS lacks many features of Android and is still essentially unchanged since Steve Jobs.
If iOS tries to match Android it will be a huge upgrade that leaves old devices incompatible just like WP8, and profit margin of iDevices will be cut substantially.
11. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 310; Member since: 03 May 2012)
ya know i never looked at it like that...Apple is actually tied or bound to its predecessors and like you said if it where to change to much it would be incompatible... Wow kinda sucks for them but once again it doesnt change the fact that people are still gonna buy it...SO thats where they are safe but in the near future things might get rough for them...
17. MeoCao (unregistered)
Overall Apple's ecosystem is still better than Android, but recently Android has made some huge leaps forward and when JB is adopted and Google efforts in improving apps' quality with the new SDK are materialized Android will have the edge.
But even now with ICS high end Androids sales can match iPhone. And with N7 Android tablets will take off. Competition is always good for consumers.
19. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Google has been making efforts to improve the quality of its application store for the longest time, and I've yet to see the improvements.
When I had the SGIII (yes already returned, lol) I was really disappointed to see how bad the application store was in terms of quality. 3/3 of the games I downloaded were a bust. I tried downloading the gameloft soccer game and it said it wasn't compatible with my device. I downloaded the Fifa soccer game and it looked really crappy compared to the iOS version. Instead of utilizing the SGIIIs large screen to see more of the field, they just magnified the iOS6 version to fit the screen and it looked bad. And cut the rope was suprisingly disappoitning too, because the images and colors were so dull and saturated.
47. superguy (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
That sounds more like lazy development rather than Android's fault.
72. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
In the end, those lazy developers make Android look bad. ANDROID applications are part of the whole experience of owning an ANDROID device. Wouldn't you agree?
65. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I highly doubt you are speaking the truth - I have several games for my Cappy and Droid RAZR, and they look great to me. Madden, Call of Duty clone, Assasin's Creed, and a bunch of other emulator games.
73. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Well buddy, it doesn't surprise me that you dont believe negative news about Android, but that is in fact the truth. I only attempted to download three games on my GSIII, and those were it. I didn't try call of duty or whatever, so I can't say much except I bet the iOS version is better.
Gameloft 12 soccer was not supported when I downloaded it, and any GSIII user on this site can confirm (or negate depending if they've updated) by trying to download on their device. Also, anyone with a GSIII can download Fifa and cut the rope and compare it to the iOS version, then after that you can come back and call me a liar. Thanks!
18. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
don't eat all the BS people feed you because that came straight from MeoCao's a**, lol. Widgets are not incredibly amazing and technologically advanced. Haven't widgets existed on Android since the very beginning? since the G1? And if I remember correctly the G1 wasn't exactly what you'd call a powerhouse device.
21. MeoCao (unregistered)
Widgets and multitasking are foundation of Android. This was a drawback early on b-c it used up the system's resources.
But now with advancement of hardware Android's advantage is clearly visible. Didn't Apple try to copy Android? But the results are very limited b-c iOS lack the solid foundation of Android.
31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Apple copied android how exactly? Your post shows you're not familiar with how sw works.
32. MeoCao (unregistered)
Notìfication, widgets that's where iOS imitates Android.
54. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
and android's notification is a copy ripped straight from maemo
43. kabel (Posts: 52; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Apparently you are coming from different world since you are stating that iPhone hardware is lacking. Do you have any benchmarks to support such a bold statement?
The iPad 3 hardware is to be matched in raw power yet from Android devices, iPhone 4S is still doing decent damage in raw power measures compared to recent Androids. The iOS is different story, i do not like many things in it (no file system exposed, ...), and that is why I would not buy device with iOS. But i'm not blind, and i'm giving credits where they are due. iPhone and iPad hardware are anything but lacking in raw power.
Take a look in here:http://www.anandtech.com/show/
51. JessJess (unregistered)
Pretty much. I mean can someone please point out another tablet with a screen resolution of 2048x1536? I would hardly call this 'saving money on hardware'.
66. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
If the ipad's processors had to manage what they do on an Android phone then those numbers would drop...a lot.
70. kabel (Posts: 52; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
The benchmarks are designed to be very, very little dependent on the Operating System they are run on. In this way we would have unified means of comparing SoC's, CPU's, GPU's, etc ... regardless of the Operating System. In this way we have orange to orange comparison. When one SoC gets some number in some benchmark, that means the Operating System is taken out of equation, and if some Operating System is burdening the SoC (If the ipad's processors had to manage what they do on an Android phone then those numbers would drop...a lot) then that is the failure of the Operating System
So your statement does not make any sense …
50. JessJess (unregistered)
They could simply disable features on older devices. Much like they did with multi-tasking.
57. boovish (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Jul 2012)
Android multitasking is crap. Its like sticking your fingers into a blender and making a retard smoothie. Also widgets just suck lots and lots of data. Also android barely has ANY customization.
79. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
don't mind him. its all sarcasm.
android multitasking is real multitasking. it is like windows multitasking, or web os multitasking.
if you think windows multitasking isn't real multitasking, then android multitasking isn't real multitasking
10. MeoCao (unregistered)
I think the glass is used to house antennas, but the design is essentially unchanged since 4S, and that's disappointing.
I hope Apple will come up with something more futuristic and exciting.
69. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
If it came with laser death rays, then I would buy it.
13. christianqwerty (Posts: 464; Member since: 05 May 2011)
I really like how the iphone looks right now, just make it a little bigger, and stronger, and you are set!
15. xtian1103 (Posts: 361; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
wow, this is rare! 10 comments and so far no haters! well aside from the device being taller, i wish they could also make it a bit wider. not wishing for widgets but it's a welcome addition. nevertheless it's the most anticipated device of the year, and every phone manufacturer is well aware of that!
26. Rocksteady (unregistered)
Totally agree, first big thing was the Samsung Galaxy S3, which turned out to be a huge success.
now the Iphone, but with the innovation of the new unchanged design, I think it's not going to be easy.
Have a nice day.
75. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Well I mean Samsung with the innovation of probably the worst design and build material you could possibly think of is doing extremely well, so in terms of body design, I think Apple's "innovation of the new unchanged design" will do juuust fine. See you later!
22. AndroidShiz (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)
The cool thing is that people have a choice. Apple does well with keeping it the same. You could get lost on an island for 5 yrs come back to civilization and the iPhone won't look too much different, while an high end Android in 5 years will look like it was designed by some A class super genius mutant from the X-men.... That's all good, but we all know how Apple, I mean umm humans feel about mutants and their unstoppable evolution.
24. MeoCao (unregistered)
Haha, nice stuff. I prefer the X-men.
27. xtian1103 (Posts: 361; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
i would like to see a unibody iphone made of indestructible adamantium material aka wolverine's claws!
52. JessJess (unregistered)
Yep. If Android took over totally (or Apple or Microsoft).... well does anyone think that would be a great win for innovation and competition? I don't.
The struggle between Google + Apple (and Microsoft) is what keeps these amazing products coming.
76. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I think many people spend too much time judging the "innovation" based on widgets and the home screen. If you only look at that, then yes almost nothing has changed. But if you look deep in the applications, settings, syncing, downloading, multitasking, notifications, speed, messaging, hardware, media and content, you'll see that on both operating systems, almost everything has changed.
By the way, widgets get boring....real fast. And a lot of them are for aesthetics and have no practical use like some of those news widgets with only one topic headlines. Cause thats sooo useful. So let's not make it seem like its incredibly amazing. I've used it, not impressive and wastes battery for no reason at all.
80. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
you clearly haven't used android enough
81. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
The longer I use Android, the less I like widgets. It loses it's wow factor real quick.